Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 A chargers - Vikings trade seems like a slam dunk. Makes sense for both teams. Vikings get number 5 and Chargers get number 11 and 23. The only thing you don’t like from the Vikings standpoint is there is a possibility that quarterbacks go 1, 2 and 3 meaning the Vikings are left with the fourth choice at quarterback, and what if they don’t like who’s left? Would seem moving all the way up to five will surely be, a last-minute decision based on who has come off the board. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 21 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: I come up with Texans giving up 780 and gets back about 680 points assuming using the "rule" that you downgrade a pick in following year by one round level and I assumed Viking finish next year around middle of draft. If you don't downgrade a round, then Vikes gave up almost 900 points, so putting it in the middle of those two scenarios says it's about even?? So adding to that, they could now trade their 11th and 23rd to move up to #4. Looks like they don't have a 3rd rounder so can't get much higher unless they make another trade to get a pick(s) i dont buy into the rule you downgrade next years pick is next years #1 worth less than this years #1 ? (only if some generational QB was avail in either) is next years #28 overall worth less than this years #28 ?.....i say no, they are equal 1 minute ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: A chargers - Vikings trade seems like a slam dunk. Makes sense for both teams. Vikings get number 5 and Chargers get number 11 and 23. The only thing you don’t like from the Vikings standpoint is there is a possibility that quarterbacks go 1, 2 and 3 meaning the Vikings are left with the fourth choice at quarterback, and what if they don’t like who’s left? Would seem moving all the way up to five will surely be, a last-minute decision based on who has come off the board. lets say vikings move up to #5 whats stopping another qb needy team, say denver moving up to #4 ? thats why alot of these trades happen during the draft and not days/weeks ahead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBoots8 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 The Patriots are the dark horse here in my view. They need serious help, and with a new coach are allowed a little wiggle room before having to panic. Vikes send 11, 23, and nex years’ 2nd to move up to 3. NE then sends their 3rd this year to Chicago to get Fields. They go WR at 11, OT at 23, and they have just filled 3 of their biggest needs. If Fields is bad, you’ll be in a position to get a better QB next year. They have the convenience of time for their new staff to get it right and can afford to shore up everything before QB if needed. If Fields does well, they’re set and they got some good quality picks in addition. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 They are likely targeting Bo Nix who will most likely be the best QB from this draft. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 21 minutes ago, papazoid said: i dont buy into the rule you downgrade next years pick is next years #1 worth less than this years #1 ? (only if some generational QB was avail in either) is next years #28 overall worth less than this years #28 ?.....i say no, they are equal Whether you buy it or not doesn't matter, it's what the front office believe in and I've read more than once that is how they view it. Yes next years #28 is worth just as much as this years. But the reason they downgrade a round is because you have no idea why pick you're really getting. Houston got this year 11th pick in the 2nd round from Vikes, next year it could be a top 5 or it could be #20. So for that reason is why it's downgraded. You also have no idea how the value of the draft will be the following year, it could be better,or it could be worse. Maybe a full round is too steep a discount, but there has to be a haircut of some value taken for the unknown of what you're actually getting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 (edited) 43 minutes ago, boyst said: fields still has potential. i'd go so far as give next years 1st and conditional picks if i an Minnesota. even as far as a 2026 1st round conditional There is practically no trade market for Fields. I’d wait until the draft and if they take a quarterback/Williams, offer a fourth round pick for him. Edited March 15 by Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 I would love for Houston to fall in love with a guy and trade 42 and 86 for 28. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 3 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: I would love for Houston to fall in love with a guy and trade 42 and 86 for 28. IMHO too far back. But who would you target at 42? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Just now, Doc said: IMHO too far back. But who would you target at 42? Ricky Pearsall 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Trade a 2nd and a 6th plus a 2025 2nd for Houston's 1st and 7th. That is to give them ammunition to get up again for a QB surely? Oh, Yeah. They're maneuvering to package #23 and #11 to move up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Rumor is the 4 QBs are going to go in the top 6. Can’t say I’m super surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 1 hour ago, Allen2Moulds said: Definitely screams QB, but seems like at least one more move is needed, to assure they have a shot at one of the top guys. The question to me is, are any of the teams at the top, willing to pass on a QB and move down? I think the target is the Giants at 6, to take McCarthy. I don' think they can get into the top 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 1 hour ago, Allen2Moulds said: Definitely screams QB, but seems like at least one more move is needed, to assure they have a shot at one of the top guys. The question to me is, are any of the teams at the top, willing to pass on a QB and move down? I would think New England would listen to offers but then again Maye fall into their laps if Washington goes for the kid from LSU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 (edited) Problem for the Vikings is I don't think they get into the top 3. And if they miss out on the top 3 QBs, is it really worth trading a bunch of picks to get someone like McCarthy? Edited March 15 by BillsFan130 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 50 minutes ago, papazoid said: i dont buy into the rule you downgrade next years pick is next years #1 worth less than this years #1 ? (only if some generational QB was avail in either) is next years #28 overall worth less than this years #28 ?.....i say no, they are equal lets say vikings move up to #5 whats stopping another qb needy team, say denver moving up to #4 ? thats why alot of these trades happen during the draft and not days/weeks ahead that’s exactly why I said it would be a last-minute trade. They gotta know who’s gonna be available at five. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NORWOODS FOOT Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Trade a 2nd and a 6th plus a 2025 2nd for Houston's 1st and 7th. That is to give them ammunition to get up again for a QB surely? I’d be surprised if it were for anything else. They have likely had discussions with a team higher on the board and are looking to get into a particular spot. Depending on what what pick they climb to, I imagine they must be comfortable with the top… maybe 4 QB prospects. Finally, I want to see where Justin Fields ends up (New England? Las Vegas? Minnesota?) and how that reshuffles the deck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 1 hour ago, boyst said: fields still has potential. i'd go so far as give next years 1st and conditional picks if i an Minnesota. even as far as a 2026 1st round conditional Fields is awful. He has some great highlight runs and a few decent games throwing the ball but after 3 years, he is generating no interest on the trade market. Meanwhile guys like Riddler, Howell and Drew lock are getting traction and traded. If he had some untapped potential, someone would be offering a 3 or 4 and he would already be out of Chicago 1 hour ago, Gregg said: The Bears should call the Jets. The Jets have the #10 pick and could probably put together a strong package with picks. Rodgers is 40 going 41 and Wilson will be cut at some point. Tyrod Taylor is OK for a backup, but he isn't a long-term solution at QB either. The Jets would be a team that might be interested in Fields. Rodgers wouldnt allow that for one, and two the Jets are dumping their own first round bust this year. Fields is going to get traded for a conditional 6th and the media will act shocked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 2 hours ago, gonzo1105 said: Is NE really gonna go with Bailey Zappe? Or Brissett?would have thought they would take a guy but they are the most likely out of the top 3. Getting ahead of the Giants at 6 maybe. You wouldn’t make this move unless you already had a trade partner or an idea of one and this can’t possibly be for JJ McCarthy but crazier ***** had happened in the draft when it comes to selecting QBs McCarthy is going top 5. Possibly top 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 1 hour ago, Gregg said: I agree that QB's probably go top 3, but the draft board doesn't always go the way the "experts" think it will. We see players fall in the draft all the time. I am hoping one of the top WR's fall so Beane can possibly trade up to get him if the opportunity is there. I don't know, man.......I could see two QB's and MHJ in the top 3 taken. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Trade a 2nd and a 6th plus a 2025 2nd for Houston's 1st and 7th. That is to give them ammunition to get up again for a QB surely? Like Beane did. Build up capital to be able to move up to get the QB you covet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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