Bills Draft Rd 1 - Pick 28

[BBFL]

3 hours ago, skibum said:

I'd be OK with Beane trading pick #1 for an established receiving threat, just like he did for Diggs. Not sure #28 will get that done, but #22 did the job before. 

 

It's a critical need, why chance it with a low 1st rounder? How many blue chip WR will still be on the board by then?

Who are you trading for?

[Negan]

Think we could trade Diggs for AJ Brown?

 

Then draft a WR too in the first.

Edited January 25 by Negan

[The Firebaugh Kid]

I was just watching some highlights of Brian Thomas. Oh my Godddddd. Thats an alpha. Easily in my favorite of the guys that might be available to us at 28. But I doubt it. 

[bills6969]

Alright I’ve changed my tune,  I want this guy in the first round. He reminds me of Diggs 

 

[Solomon Grundy]

5 hours ago, Negan said:

Think we could trade Diggs for AJ Brown?

 

Then draft a WR too in the first.

Why? Brown's production fell off a cliff like Diggs did

[hjnick]

With so many potential elite receivers in this upcoming draft, I think we could slide a couple of slots and try to pick up another 2nd or 3rd rounder out of it.

 

Then pound WR at least twice.  IF we can get DT De'vonte Sweat from Texas, let's draft him.  He is a monster of a man and will be an anchor in the middle.

 

Probably need a safety too.

 

OR we can trade our #1 pick (we gonna win super bowl next year, so it's gonna be down there) and go up and get one of the top elite WRs in this class.

[NewEra]

On 1/23/2024 at 5:06 AM, MiracleAtRich1393 said:

That's why we should take WR with the first three picks. If multiple hit in this stacked class then Allen has an embarrassment of riches well past Diggs' tenure. But you have to get at least ONE hit from this draft. So make sure it happens.

 

Safety can wait til day 3. Take more than one safety day 3 IDGAF. We should be aiming to spoil Allen, try to set all time scoring & efficiency records. Put the fear of God into opposing defenses. Make opposing offenses get in their own heads about having to score 30+ or they lose. That's how mistakes are made and our defense can be opportunistic. The defensive head coach gets less resources and can try to do more with less.

We’ve heard it all now-  taking WRs with our first THREE picks….. 😂 good lord

[BillsFan2313]

9 hours ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:

I was just watching some highlights of Brian Thomas. Oh my Godddddd. Thats an alpha. Easily in my favorite of the guys that might be available to us at 28. But I doubt it. 

 

Same. Move up a few spots to get this kid. The way this kid can track a ball is exactly what Allen needs. 

[GunnerBill]

10 hours ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:

I was just watching some highlights of Brian Thomas. Oh my Godddddd. Thats an alpha. Easily in my favorite of the guys that might be available to us at 28. But I doubt it. 

 

The problem with Thomas is it is highlights or nothing. He makes the big play or no play. I think they need someone a bit more multi-functional. I don't hate the idea. And if we drafted him, fine. But if they do they definitely need to double dip and get a route runner.

[bills6969]

I like Franklin but he’ll need to bulk up. He’s currently listed at 6’3 187.  He’ll get pushed around like a rag doll at that size.  This a very loaded WR draft.  Any of these guys in the late 1st whether it’s Franklin, Worthy, Lagette, Thomas, etc are going to fill a big hole for us.  
 

WR is one position where rookies can come in and make immediate impact.  I’d prefer we fill our WR need in the draft and not FA.  Get our safety in FA. I’m  not going to feel great if we go into next season with Hyde’s starting spot filled with a rookie.

 

 

[GunnerBill]

9 minutes ago, bills6969 said:

I like Franklin but he’ll need to bulk up. He’s currently listed at 6’3 187.  He’ll get pushed around like a rag doll at that size.  This a very loaded WR draft.  Any of these guys in the late 1st whether it’s Franklin, Worthy, Lagette, Thomas, etc are going to fill a big hole for us.  
 

WR is one position where rookies can come in and make immediate impact.  I’d prefer we fill our WR need in the draft and not FA.  Get our safety in FA. I’m  not going to feel great if we go into next season with Hyde’s starting spot filled with a rookie.

 

 

 

Agree - safety in FA and then some cheap vet depth at DT and WR. But their big swings on DL and WR should come in the first two rounds of the draft.

[Solomon Grundy]

28 minutes ago, bills6969 said:

I like Franklin but he’ll need to bulk up. He’s currently listed at 6’3 187.  He’ll get pushed around like a rag doll at that size.  This a very loaded WR draft.  Any of these guys in the late 1st whether it’s Franklin, Worthy, Lagette, Thomas, etc are going to fill a big hole for us.  
 

WR is one position where rookies can come in and make immediate impact.  I’d prefer we fill our WR need in the draft and not FA.  Get our safety in FA. I’m  not going to feel great if we go into next season with Hyde’s starting spot filled with a rookie.

 

 

I'm on the Troy Franklin train also. He's the Smoke Brown replacement this offense has been missing. I'm not too concerned with his size. He's savvy enough to get off the line of scrimmage. Beane for years has been looking for Tyreek Hill speed. Franklin has that with length

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

16 hours ago, Negan said:

Think we could trade Diggs for AJ Brown?

 

Then draft a WR too in the first.

I'll say this for any and all "trade Diggs" conjecture:

 

No. Not in 2024. No way, no how. Especially the "no how" part. As in, the Bills would incur a $4 million cap LOSS on top of what they would have to pay the new guy in a year where they desperately need cap space. There's a reason that player for player trades don't happen often, and it's more commonly player for picks. 

 

If the Bills hit every lever to free up space, effectively say good bye to all departing free agents (bye Floyd, Epenesa, Shaq, Dodson, Dane Jackson, DaQuan, Phillips so most of our defense) and need to hit on nearly every draft pick as an immediate starter the Bills could maybe trade Diggs for picks. What worth all that, multiple first rounders? We ain't getting that for Diggs.

 

Diggs is a near certain lock to be on the roster in 2024. And, let's face it, likely 2025, because the Bills are so cap strapped I don't see how we field a roster anywhere as close to last year without restructuring or extending him.

[The Firebaugh Kid]

11 hours ago, bills6969 said:

Alright I’ve changed my tune,  I want this guy in the first round. He reminds me of Diggs 

 

Explosive as hell. Just a bit on the small side. 

[Billever76]

On 1/22/2024 at 9:16 AM, boyst said:

With the 28th pick in the 2024 NFL Draft the Buffalo Bills select: ___________

Xavier legette wr

[BillsDiehard]

Adonai Mitchell 

[bills6969]

1 hour ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:

Explosive as hell. Just a bit on the small side. 

He could be the next Tyreek Hill

[Cash]

1 hour ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

I'll say this for any and all "trade Diggs" conjecture:

 

No. Not in 2024. No way, no how. Especially the "no how" part. As in, the Bills would incur a $4 million cap LOSS on top of what they would have to pay the new guy in a year where they desperately need cap space. There's a reason that player for player trades don't happen often, and it's more commonly player for picks. 

 

If the Bills hit every lever to free up space, effectively say good bye to all departing free agents (bye Floyd, Epenesa, Shaq, Dodson, Dane Jackson, DaQuan, Phillips so most of our defense) and need to hit on nearly every draft pick as an immediate starter the Bills could maybe trade Diggs for picks. What worth all that, multiple first rounders? We ain't getting that for Diggs.

 

Diggs is a near certain lock to be on the roster in 2024. And, let's face it, likely 2025, because the Bills are so cap strapped I don't see how we field a roster anywhere as close to last year without restructuring or extending him.

 

I think you hit the nail on the head - it's the HOW part.  In his year-end press conference, Beane said something about having to be very careful about every dollar they spend.  I doubt he thinks they can afford a $4mil cap hit just to get rid of Diggs.

 

Now, if this was the NBA's cap?  I'd be calling Tampa about doing a sign & trade of Diggs for Mike Evans.  And in a cap-free world, I'd be calling Jerry Jones and selling him on adding another star, while also reuniting the Diggs brothers.  All for just the low, low price of this year's first round pick.  (In the cap-free scenario, I'm also doing whatever I can to sign Evans outright.)

[NewEra]

2 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

I'm on the Troy Franklin train also. He's the Smoke Brown replacement this offense has been missing. I'm not too concerned with his size. He's savvy enough to get off the line of scrimmage. Beane for years has been looking for Tyreek Hill speed. Franklin has that with length

He doesn’t have Tyreek Hill speed bro

54 minutes ago, bills6969 said:

He could be the next Tyreek Hill

He’s fast but there are too many people throwing out Tyreek Hill.  There’s one Tyreek hill in the history of the league.  No one else has ever had that kind of explosive speed.  Maybe someone will eventually….but maybe not.  He’s different

[CNYfan]

I will not be disappointed or surprised if it is IDL in the first.   The importance of the position is clear and as TBB keeps trying to sign veterans.   I think they will be lured to the attraction of a 5 year first round guy of their own in that spot.  

[wppete]

 

[Monty98]

20 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yea I agree with Joe. If he caught everything I'd live with his lack of separation but he doesn't. 

 

I think the Bills need is not a compliment for Diggs. It is a guy who has passed him by the end of next season as this team's #1. 

 

For me the top 3 fit that but will be gone. Legette fits it and might be there. Franklin and Thomas are bigger gambles but have the chance to. 

 

He's just not good, yeah okay he had a good game in their biggest game of the season but Coleman is mid. I'm at the stage right now of trade out of the 1st and get a future first and a 2nd this year, and get after Ja'Lynn Polk from Washington. I really like what I've seen so far and watching the game vs Texas 👀

[The Firebaugh Kid]

18 minutes ago, wppete said:

 

Can you imagine Allen with a guy like this? It's literally THE missing ingredient. 

[wppete]

7 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:

Can you imagine Allen with a guy like this? It's literally THE missing ingredient. 

I think his 40 time at the combine will be impressive. 

[BillsWest]

Here was my draft, yes, many trades:

 

[wppete]

Olympic level speed. 10.65 100m and a reported 4.2 - 40 yard. 
 

 

[whorlnut]

6 hours ago, CNYfan said:

I will not be disappointed or surprised if it is IDL in the first.   The importance of the position is clear and as TBB keeps trying to sign veterans.   I think they will be lured to the attraction of a 5 year first round guy of their own in that spot.  

The exact same thing can be said about wr. We have to get younger and cheaper there. I don’t wanna see gabe Davis replaced with another gabe Davis. Time to upgrade with a guy with a more complete skill set. We aren’t looking specifically for a 2 at this point. We are looking for a potential 1 as Diggs is going to be 31 next season. 

[OldTimer1960]

On 1/22/2024 at 9:20 AM, billieve420 said:

I am moving up if the right WR is available in the general area where we are going to pick. I would also consider Safety if we stand pat and we don't like any of the WRs in that spot.

What are you trading to move up?  They need at least 1 DT, S, likely a DE as well and you hope, but can’t expect, to find strong contributors in round 5 and later.

On 1/22/2024 at 9:34 AM, GunnerBill said:

Xavier Legette, Wide Receiver, South Carolina

 

 

But I'd definitely live with this outcome too. 

I do like what I’ve seen of him.  Big and strong hands.  Doesn’t look slow, either.

[EasternOHBillsFan]

KOOL-AID!!!! AWWWWWWW YEAH!!!!*

 

*Based upon the previous track record of favoring defense over offense in the 1st round, I actually want a 6'2"+ WR

 

 

Edited January 27 by EasternOHBillsFan

[Aussie Joe]

Yay …a CB in Round 1…(again) … no DTs left I presume …

[wppete]

3 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

Yay …a CB in Round 1…(again) … no DTs left I presume …

It has to be a WR this draft. No excuses.

[Aussie Joe]

Just now, wppete said:

It has to be a WR this draft. No excuses.

I won’t go as far as to say no excuses … Beane was determined to pick a CB in Round 1 in 2022 and we saw how that worked out …

 

But there should be 90 percent chance it’s a WR… if not then they need to go Rounds 2 and 3 

[BrooklynBills]

It will be Michigan DT Kris Jenkins

[wppete]

🧵 

 

A good thread 🧵 here for top 5 downfield threats for Josh in the draft. Right now my favourite is LSU WR Brian Thomas Jr.

 

 

 

[KDIGGZ]

Keon Coleman looks like what everyone hoped Gabe Davis could be. They have the same limitations (long strides, doesn't get out of cuts smoothly) but Coleman knows how to box out and use his size to out jump the defenders. Gabe has the size but played small vs the smaller db's.

 

I like the guy from Oregon the best, which means he will probably be long gone by 28

[harmonkillebrew]

The WR room is bare with multiple guys hitting FA or likely cut. But I severely doubt McDermott will go Offense 2 years in a row. His comments about the defense not doing enough against KC, makes me think we'll probably see a DT or S in the 1st (DT room is also pretty bare). 

 

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[Billever76]

10 hours ago, NewEra said:

He doesn’t have Tyreek Hill speed bro

He’s fast but there are too many people throwing out Tyreek Hill.  There’s one Tyreek hill in the history of the league.  No one else has ever had that kind of explosive speed.  Maybe someone will eventually….but maybe not.  He’s different

Xavier legette is 6'3 223 lbs and ran the same 4.29 hill ran amazing how fast he is for his size

2 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said:

What are you trading to move up?  They need at least 1 DT, S, likely a DE as well and you hope, but can’t expect, to find strong contributors in round 5 and later.

I do like what I’ve seen of him.  Big and strong hands.  Doesn’t look slow, either.

He ran a 4.29 40.....the same speed tyreek ran 👀 

https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/sports/college/usc/2023/09/26/xavier-legette-40-time-south-carolina-football-wide-receiver/70970107007/

[NewEra]

14 minutes ago, Billever76 said:

Xavier legette is 6'3 223 lbs and ran the same 4.29 hill ran amazing how fast he is for his size

He ran a 4.29 40.....the same speed tyreek ran 👀 

https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/sports/college/usc/2023/09/26/xavier-legette-40-time-south-carolina-football-wide-receiver/70970107007/

I know who he is and how fast he is.  He’s not Tyreek hill fast.  

[Billever76]

18 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I know who he is and how fast he is.  He’s not Tyreek hill fast.  

Better check his 40...he ran a 4.29..just takes him a bit longer to reach his top speed as he doesn't have the quick burst tyreek has.....he was clocked at 22.3mph in a game last season

Edited January 27 by Billever76

[NewEra]

20 minutes ago, Billever76 said:

Better check his 40...he ran a 4.29..just takes him a bit longer to reach his top speed as he doesn't have the quick burst tyreek has.....he was clocked at 22.3mph in a game last season

I know how fast he is.  They aren’t the same kind of speed.  Say he’s a 4.29 guy….. don’t say he’s Tyreek.  He’s not.  His burst and change of direction is nowhere near Tyreeks.

 

Using 40 times from 8 years ago is odd btw.  

Edited January 27 by NewEra