strive_for_five_guy Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 I wouldn’t mind a WR at pick 28, but this team has way too many other holes to fill to be trading picks and trying to move up much. This team needs to get younger, faster and cheaper. Draft picks are the only way to do that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 The answer must be BPA. As much as we have obvious holes at WR, we cannot allow recency bias and need to control our board or we went up with another Elam pick. I’d rather bring on the best available at a position of need than the 6th best WR because they feel they have to address it early. That being said, if you like someone, go get that WR. Don’t wait around and panic pick if they aren’t there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Whatever they do we need to come out of the draft with 3-4 solid starters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 CB or DE - bank on it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) WR & if not that, then a WR, or a WR. Better be a really good WR. Watch they're going to take DL just to F w/ us. GD it!!! Edited January 23 by Donuts and Doritos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 This is a wide receiver draft take the best available 12 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: The answer must be BPA. As much as we have obvious holes at WR, we cannot allow recency bias and need to control our board or we went up with another Elam pick. I’d rather bring on the best available at a position of need than the 6th best WR because they feel they have to address it early. That being said, if you like someone, go get that WR. Don’t wait around and panic pick if they aren’t there. It won’t be recent bias Dave Davis is going to get a contract somewhere else so there’s going to be a need Diggs had a down here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 7 hours ago, Monty98 said: Give me Kam Kinchens from Miami. One of the better safety's out there and we have to replace two. He's a ball hawk, isn't super proficient in the run game, but he's was a do it all safety for Miami 2 years ago, this year he missed some time with an injury but was their best player on the back 7. They have two high caliber safeties coming out but James Williams is a Strong Safety whereas Kam is the FS. I'm all about the LB from Texas AM in the 1st. Sure handed deep threat in the 2nd. Safety from Maryland in 3rd or Moose Muhammad. Resign Rapp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, DCOrange said: I definitely get it. It’s a good and deep WR class but picking as late as we currently are, you’re going to have to take WRs that have holes in their games. Just have to figure out which holes you think you can deal with really. Legette could definitely be good; guys with his size, speed, and physicality are very attractive prospects to gamble on. I definitely worry about how long it took him to make an impact and the press coverage stuff though given our specific needs. You might like Adonai Mitchell as well; he’s not as fast as Legette but he’s tall and generally considered a weirdly flexible route runner for someone his size. Keon Coleman is another contested catch merchant but comes with his own red flags too. I watch Texas and yea Mitchell is also good. I saw some KeonColeman just now he seems good too. idk it just jumps off the screen how this Legette is another level. He looks like a head taller and a foot wider than anyone guarding him. He runs like an Olympic sprinter. The ball ….It looks like a nerf football in his hands. He jumps like 3 feet in the air. He’s built like Gronkowski and runs like tyreek. You’d think he was playing against high school kids but it’s the SEC! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWK Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 I’d bet big money on a safety 1 hour ago, Solomon Grundy said: I'm all about the LB from Texas AM in the 1st. Sure handed deep threat in the 2nd. Safety from Maryland in 3rd or Moose Muhammad. Resign Rapp We don’t need a LB for anything more than depth. We have two and we will continue to play nickel every down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 I'm partial to Tez Walker among the back half of first round prospects. I know people tend to use the draft sites to arrange their picks and he's not "mocking" this high generally but he has the size, speed, soft hands, catches contested passes, tracks the ball well, keeps his feet moving at the catch etc. I like Brian Thomas Jr a lot too but my guess is he's gone. Honestly, if Tez Walker tests like the people at UNC expect(4.3's) he's probably gone too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 2 hours ago, starrymessenger said: DK didn't go in the first two rounds either. That was a mistake they won't make again. I expect Leggett to go late first early second. Oh I know... DK was my guy that year too... I wanted him SO bad... Those posts are still here I think... What could have been... Can you imagine DK with Josh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) 10 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: I thought through a path yesterday. Trade Chicago Diggs plus 28 for 9 (or whatever their pick is). The Giants at 6 could do something like that too. Use 9 & 2025 1st to get to 3 or 4. Not likely but possible. FWIW, I think Franklin or Legette is the target. They could also drop back and consider Xavier Worthy. I think that the Bills want speed. Love this idea. In those trade ups are Harrison or Nabers the targets? Anyone else? Also can use free cap space from Diggs to get Pittman. Edited January 23 by RyanC883 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 2 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: The answer must be BPA. As much as we have obvious holes at WR, we cannot allow recency bias and need to control our board or we went up with another Elam pick. I’d rather bring on the best available at a position of need than the 6th best WR because they feel they have to address it early. That being said, if you like someone, go get that WR. Don’t wait around and panic pick if they aren’t there. They'll be there this year... There's been 10 WR's I've seen mocked in the 1st round here and there so far. Plenty of things can change, but no way that many go by #28 of course... In fact I'd be surprised if any more than 5 go from 1-27... That would leave the Bills with a player like Legette, Franklin, Walker, Coleman, or Mitchell... There's a good chance 3 out of those 5 will be available. And any of those 5 would be a big time addition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiracleAtRich1393 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 13 hours ago, iccrewman112 said: Troy Franklin - WR from Oregon is where my mind goes currently. I think there is a strong chance he is there at 28. If he runs in the 4.3s I don't see how we could pass him up. Large radius, good hands, separator, diverse route tree, and can take the top off. Checks every box for a guy opposite Diggs to take this offense to the next level. Except run blocking of course 🤣 He's also only 20 and WRs that pop young typically have huge upside The type of guy KC would jump ahead of us to take who'd then haunt us for the next decade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Spent the last hour reading scouting reports and watching highlight videos of some of the suggestions in this thread (yes I know this is an extremely limited way of researching prospects). All of them left something to be desired. After the obvious top 3 of Harrison, Nabers, and Odunze, everyone else seemed like a round 2 or lower prospect to me. And then I got to Troy Franklin. He has immediately become my draft crush (last year my drash crush was Kincaid so that worked out perfectly for me). What am I missing here? He has the kind of vertical speed that makes it impossible to overthrow him. He has a knack for turning his leverage at the catch point into YAC. He appears to be able to run more than just go routes. He looks competitive out there and looks like he truly loves to play the game which means something. Plus he is 6'3 unlike a lot of these speedy WR prospects we see year after year. Seems like a perfect fit for Josh Allen. Maybe not capable of becoming a true alpha #1 but elite speed means so much in the modern NFL and it's slim pickings at the bottom of the 1st no matter what. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) 4 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Spent the last hour reading scouting reports and watching highlight videos of some of the suggestions in this thread (yes I know this is an extremely limited way of researching prospects). All of them left something to be desired. After the obvious top 3 of Harrison, Nabers, and Odunze, everyone else seemed like a round 2 or lower prospect to me. And then I got to Troy Franklin. He has immediately become my draft crush (last year my drash crush was Kincaid so that worked out perfectly for me). What am I missing here? He has the kind of vertical speed that makes it impossible to overthrow him. He has a knack for turning his leverage at the catch point into YAC. He appears to be able to run more than just go routes. He looks competitive out there and looks like he truly loves to play the game which means something. Plus he is 6'3 unlike a lot of these speedy WR prospects we see year after year. Seems like a perfect fit for Josh Allen. Maybe not capable of becoming a true alpha #1 but elite speed means so much in the modern NFL and it's slim pickings at the bottom of the 1st no matter what. I really like Keon Coleman, but really this draft is an embarrassment of riches at WR. All I really care about is targeting a bigger body WR, 6"3 or taller. Franklin fits the mold. Several others as well. Josh likes to throw people open. Complete shame we haven't given him a guy that can post up and make contested catches. Edited January 23 by Mikie2times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) 9 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Spent the last hour reading scouting reports and watching highlight videos of some of the suggestions in this thread (yes I know this is an extremely limited way of researching prospects). All of them left something to be desired. After the obvious top 3 of Harrison, Nabers, and Odunze, everyone else seemed like a round 2 or lower prospect to me. And then I got to Troy Franklin. He has immediately become my draft crush (last year my drash crush was Kincaid so that worked out perfectly for me). What am I missing here? He has the kind of vertical speed that makes it impossible to overthrow him. He has a knack for turning his leverage at the catch point into YAC. He appears to be able to run more than just go routes. He looks competitive out there and looks like he truly loves to play the game which means something. Plus he is 6'3 unlike a lot of these speedy WR prospects we see year after year. Seems like a perfect fit for Josh Allen. Maybe not capable of becoming a true alpha #1 but elite speed means so much in the modern NFL and it's slim pickings at the bottom of the 1st no matter what. From what I've been reading, knocks on him are: - Below-average flexibility. Tall, lanky frame makes it tough for him to drop his hips and work certain routes. - Inconsistent ability to win the ball in the air. Shows flashes thanks to good hands and long arms, but it comes and goes. - Below-average blocker due to skinny frame. But at where we're picking, you're not going to find a perfect prospect. Gotta take the good with the bad. And it looks like there's a lot of good. Edited January 23 by BillsFanForever19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 4 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: I really like Keon Coleman, but really this draft is an embarrassment of riches at WR. I am immediately wary of any WR prospect where his best trait is "contested catch specialist." That is a red flag. My first question is, why are you facing so many contested catches against college coverage? The coverage is going to get much much tougher in the pros and the contested catches don't come as easy. I can't remember the last "contested catch specialist" that worked out in the NFL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: I am immediately wary of any WR prospect where his best trait is "contested catch specialist." That is a red flag. My first question is, why are you facing so many contested catches against college coverage? The coverage is going to get much much tougher in the pros and the contested catches don't come as easy. I can't remember the last "contested catch specialist" that worked out in the NFL. Bigger target is what I want. Enjoy, he's a beast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) 9 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: From what I've been reading, knocks on him are: - Below-average flexibility. Tall, lanky frame makes it tough for him to drop his hips and work certain routes. - Inconsistent ability to win the ball in the air. Shows flashes thanks to good hands and long arms, but it comes and goes. - Below-average blocker due to skinny frame. But at where we're picking, you're not going to find a perfect prospect. Gotta take the good with the bad. And it looks like there's a lot of good. I can see the concern about his frame, that is just not something I personally worry about. People criticized Devonta Smith over his frame. I think NFL strength and conditioning can help him fill out a bit, and more importantly his other athletic traits more than make up for it. I don't expect him to be a great contested catch WR and that isn't what you draft him to be. Just separate and then catch the ball when it hits him in the hands. That is all I want out of our next WR investment. 6 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: Bigger target is what I want. Enjoy, he's a beast. I remember identical highlight videos for N'Keal Harry. Just isn't my kind of WR personally. I want separation first and foremost. Edited January 23 by HappyDays 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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