Tyler Dunne story on McDermott - 3 parts, 25 interviews, one damning conclusion

[Arkady Renko]

13 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

Let me be the naysayer who gets smacked around for a divergent view...

 

I like Dunne.  And he says he talked to 25 people for this article.  That's an impressive number.  

 

But I wonder who he talked to and which ones he quoted?  Coaches who were fired?  Players who were cut?  

 

It would be nice if he sought out a random sample.  Both McD detractors and fans.  But he seemingly didn't do that.  

 

I'm not arguing McD is perfect and doesn't do any wrong.  I just don't think Dunne's article is the final word.  We've heard a lot of players talk about how much they love the culture of the Bills.  Things aren't all bad.  

 

It would help if didn’t seem to have an agenda against McDermott from day one.  I suspect it dates to how McDermott got Whaley replaced. 

[JoeF]

16 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

When players were upset by this edict, center Mitch Morse actually drew a Jordan logo on one of his sharkskin cowboy boots...

 

  

Mitch is the man!  Hysterical...

 

So the Bills head coach is a egotistical ####### who has led the team to playoff berth 6 out of 7 years after a 17 year drought.  If the Bills fire him he will be on the market about a day before getting another offer.  Hope they have a solid plan B if this is the route they take.  Letting Josh hand pick his head coach is not a strategy.

[KDIGGZ]

15 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

In sorry but that whole thing sounds like a complete lie. 
 

McD wanted his OL to wear work boots instead of Jordan’s during a walk through? What? 

I'm sure he was just joking and a disgruntled OL (Spain) is using this absurd story as ammo. I saw Torrence at Lowe's yesterday and he was wearing shorts and flip flops in a snow storm, no Carhartt 

[LABILLBACKER]

Tell me something I didn't already know. McD is toxic to this team's future. 

[JohnNord]

45 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Even as someone who wants McD gone, I'm clicking this link with a grain of salt.

 

Dunne is a decent writer, but trying to do his own thing independently makes him a little more desparate for clicks than even the normal sports media. Plus, his main source into the NFL is Doug Whaley.

 

So whatever damning piece he write about this regime needs to be tempered a bit.

 

That said, fire McD.

 

 

 

Firing Dorsey was the right move tho.

 

Maybe an incomplete move as ownership probably should have fired the HC too. But Dorsey needed to go, regardless of the politics behind it or how we feel about McD.

 

 

The Offense was sputtering. The Offense was going the first 3 quarters of games without scoring while the D held on for dear life allowing only 10 points. The Offense was the main problem.

 

Now that has been addressed, Josh is "back", and we've scored over 30 points each game since Dorsey was let go. Time to address the Defense.

 

Hand the whole thing over to Brady at this point.

 

 

I like Dunne as a writer and think he does a very good.  But he does seem to be heavily biased and he doubles down on those biases quite a bit.  We saw this with his coverage on Aaron Rodgers which many GB dismissed as pointed…and now we see this with McDermott.  

33 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

When players were upset by this edict, center Mitch Morse actually drew a Jordan logo on one of his sharkskin cowboy boots...

 

  

Why would anyone care about this?

[Mr. WEO]

49 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Even as someone who wants McD gone, I'm clicking this link with a grain of salt.

 

Dunne is a decent writer, but trying to do his own thing independently makes him a little more desparate for clicks than even the normal sports media. 

 

 

 

 

what does this mean--he's too independent??  He  talked to too many people for this article and it made him desperate?

 

How does this make sense?

[JohnNord]

39 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

If everything said in this piece about McD is true, then no way he just decides to give up what he wants and let's Brady run loose.

 

Dorsey sucked as an OC. It doesnt need to go deeper than that.

 

Dorsey is gone. That problem has been addressed. On to the next issue: Head Coach.

This is where the “meddling” narrative never made sense.  If he is so controlling, wouldn’t he micromanage Joe Brady the same way he “micromanaged” Dorsey?  

I don’t buy that Dorsey was a scapegoat at all.  We saw 6 weeks where the offense struggled badly.  Over the past two weeks, it’s looked better.

[Billsfan1972]

26 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

This is one of those articles that ultimately does absolutely nothing to move the needle for anyone.

 

Those that don't like McDermott will take the majority of this as fact because it "proves" their own thoughts and provides them a piece of that oh so comforting "echo chamber"

 

Those that like McDermott will be quick to brush it off as gossip from players/coaches who have clashed with McDermott or feel they have been wronged and have an axe to grind. 

Whatever.....  what I read and I do agree with the article, but is undeniable is that he has never explained 13 seconds, taken accountability and allowed 12 men to be on the field and lost the Denver game.

 

And yes he has thrown the offense under the bus multiple times this year and then proceeded to back over them all the while praising his defense.

Edited December 7, 2023 by Billsfan1972

[MJS]

These are the worst types of articles. A bunch of unamed sources who are mad they got fired for sucking at their jobs.

 

Just a bunch of garbage.

[Warriorspikes51]

"Confirmed"  Diggs "beef" was with Sean when Sean made comments about one of his outfits ahahahahahhahahaha 

doesn't seem too far fetched if the Jordan shoes thing is actually real 

[GoBills808]

58 minutes ago, yall said:

Anyone willing to summarize the parts that were behind a paywall would be appreciated.

 

The part that I could read, I can't disagree.

It's a hit piece, but crazy if even only half is true

 

Says McDermott doesn't put in the hours, leaves early but demands other coaches stay late/postpone flights and vacations

 

That he took over defensive playcalling in the AFCCG and possibly last drive of 13seconds game

 

Claims Diggs hates him

 

and basically makes the case that he's inevitably going to fail in the biggest moments

[DrDawkinstein]

4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

what does this mean--he's too independent??  He  talked to too many people for this article and it made him desperate?

 

How does this make sense?

 

You're smart enough to figure this out.

 

I said "doing his thing independently", not as you said "too independent" which doesnt even make sense. So don't confuse yourself.

 

It means he isnt backed by a larger organization, or collecting a regular paycheck. He only eats what he earns. And with smaller(no) budgets for advertising his site and getting his name out there, the easier way to do it is to be more controversial and baiting.

[BritBill]

22 minutes ago, JoeF said:

Mitch is the man!  Hysterical...

 

So the Bills head coach is a egotistical ####### who has led the team to playoff berth 6 out of 7 years after a 17 year drought.  If the Bills fire him he will be on the market about a day before getting another offer.  Hope they have a solid plan B if this is the route they take.  Letting Josh hand pick his head coach is not a strategy.

 

Although he is good at picks. 

[yall]

Just now, GoBills808 said:

It's a hit piece, but crazy if even only half is true

 

Says McDermott doesn't put in the hours, leaves early but demands other coaches stay late/postpone flights and vacations

 

That he took over defensive playcalling in the AFCCG and possibly last drive of 13seconds game

 

Claims Diggs hates him

 

and basically makes the case that he's inevitably going to fail in the biggest moments

That all seems to pass the sniff test save for the leaving early bit. That doesn't seem to align with what we hear about his level of commitment, narcissist or not.

 

 

[BBFL]

Winning cures all. 

[BuffaloBillyG]

5 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Whatever.....  what I read and I do agree with the article, but is undeniable is that he has never explained 13 seconds, taken accountability and allowed 12 men to be on the field and lost the Denver game.

 

And yes he has thrown the offense under the bus multiple times this year and then proceeded to back over them all the while praising his defense.

And that kind of proves my point, so thank you. 

[Sherlock Holmes]

53 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Don't forget the WR's coach who mysteriously left.

Chad Hall

[Ralonzo]

47 minutes ago, boyst said:

Let journalists learn to code

Paywall fixed. 

 

Appreciate, but looks like just the truncated versions.

[pocoboy]

This stuff was clear as day for anyone who isn't enamored with meager playoff football. McDermott's narrative sculpting? Maybe he's hiring one of his various puff piece supporters in the media to help him with that. Or maybe he's just made a career of taking credit for everything good and shucking the blame onto others once they tire of his feel good clapping and locker room cliches.

 

I'd have to believe one of those sources might be QB1 himself. It's pretty clear this season is a throwdown dragout between McDermott & Allen. Allen's the only guy that's gonna wedge between McDermott and Pegula. So it's pretty transparent when McDermott, as soon as the Jets 2nd half meltdown hits, he's going after the source of the lack of "complementary football."

 

Bottom line - this team is 6-6, and it may be more dysfunctional than all those Drought Era teams that needed the big "culture change" McDermott sold.

[Captain Hindsight]

39 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

Let me be the naysayer who gets smacked around for a divergent view...

 

I like Dunne.  And he says he talked to 25 people for this article.  That's an impressive number.  

 

But I wonder who he talked to and which ones he quoted?  Coaches who were fired?  Players who were cut?  

 

It would be nice if he sought out a random sample.  Both McD detractors and fans.  But he seemingly didn't do that.  

 

I'm not arguing McD is perfect and doesn't do any wrong.  I just don't think Dunne's article is the final word.  We've heard a lot of players talk about how much they love the culture of the Bills.  Things aren't all bad.  

 

Yup. I bet I could find a bunch of people that have been fired from organizations have bad things to say about the people that fired them.

 

I remember at my last company, they fired a few PMs right before this big getaway trip for the whole company. A few days later on Glassdoor, there was a scathing review of the company culture and work environment. I wonder who wrote it?