Tyler Dunne story on McDermott - 3 parts, 25 interviews, one damning conclusion

[PBF81]

1 hour ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Reading some of the comments made by McD over the last 6 weeks made me think that Dorsey was not an independent OC in the way that DeBoll was. Dorsey was a tool of McD his purpose was to implement what McD wanted out of HIS offense and more importantly out of HIS QB.  The placing of a governor on Allen's play which was the primary reason this offense struggled at times came from McD.  And for this reason alone McD should be fired.  Dorsey was only there to try to make McD's demands happen.

 

 

 

It stands to reason that's what McD means when he says "complimentary football."  

 

It's likely his way of saying that the offense supports the defense, in a nutshell.  

 

It's also corroborates Dunne's conclusions.  

 

This is all going to come out over time.   We'll see.  It almost always does.  And Dorsey's not going to sit still in interviews and continue to take the heat for McD when his future employment is on the line and McD wasn't loyal to him.  

 

Why do you think that McDimwit endorsed Dorsey?  Likely because he toed the "complimentary football" line.  It's going to be very interesting to see what happens with Brady, particularly now that the vast majority of fans want McD gone and the vast majority of the media back that notion.  We tend to play well for a few games with a renewed energy, as in the past two games with Brady.  Brady's going to have his hands full with the Chiefs' D on Sunday, which has yet not allowed more than 21 offensive points this season at home, and that only once, 17 once after that, and 14 twice tops otherwise.  

 

McD's effectively run out of people to blame and his own flaws are now being fully exposed.  

 

He's doing quite the job of making the most out of the rope that he's provided himself with.  

 

It's a little surprising how quickly and decisively he got to this point, but the outcome was easily predictable.  

 

 

[Mango]

1 hour ago, Buddy Hix said:

13 secs exposed McD's inability to be accountable, I knew it would turn out like this...right down to Pegula being unwilling to do what is needed. The next 2-3 seasons are going to be rough, and I bet it will take at least that many years for Pegula to actually make the right call.

 

The Sabres pitchforks are about as sharp as ever at the moment. For people who have been following the Sabres closely through the Pegula nightmare, this season was supposed to be the turning point. And that turning point brought old fans back in with real NHL expectations. 

The team is falling flat, and people on every hockey forum I have been on have never been more adamant that Terry is the number one problem. Gone are the days of "well a new coach, a shiny draft pick, a good FA, maybe a new GM". The fanbase is locked in on incompetent's ownership. 

My point is that I think Terry is on thin ice in this town. He has a lot of goodwill because of the last 6 years with the Bills. But as this team struggles and the Sabres org becomes more inept by the day, if Pegula botches this thing with the Bills, this town won't hesitate to light their torches for the absolute, hands down, worst owner in NHL history. 

 

Edit: I think Terry is acutely aware of this, and has some decision paralysis because of it. 

Edited December 7, 2023 by Mango

[Einstein]

52 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Exactly! This just feels like a guy who had an agenda, and sought out sources and quotes to fit the narrative he was trying to make.

 

A positive McD piece would have got 30 clicks, zero discussion.

 

A negative piece will get hundreds. 

 

Devils advocate: This post reads like someone who has an agenda to defend McDermott and will rebuke any source (let alone 25 of them) that display any negativity toward him. 

 

It’s a common theme to discredit an article by stating that it’s for “clicks”. Which in this case is especially odd, since “for clicks” is a phrase that indicates that the author wrote something inflammatory to drive click-traffic that increases advertising revenue. But Dunne doesn’t get paid for clicks (he has zero ads).

 

If the only source you would accept is McDermott himself telling you that he is doing a bad job, then of course you will never get that. You’ll never see Dick Jauron admit that either.

 

If this was anyone but Dunne, perhaps the theory of the big-bad-reporter being out to hurt the head coach for a couple advertising dollars would have some merit. But Dunne is as respected as a reporter as one could possibly be. University respected.

 

Reports of McD having a bit of an a-hole side has been around since he was hired. He famously went off on a reporter after a practice for writing a negative article.

 

That being said - who are we going to get that’s definitively better? I struggle to think of anyone. I love Ben Johnson’s offense, but he is definitively going to be better as a HC? That’s impossible to answer.

[teef]

i sure hope a three part story about me never comes out.

[Nephilim17]

"He’s a coaching relic routinely paralyzed by fear late in games. He never imagines what could go right with 20 seconds left in regulation, instead forever horrified of what could go wrong. Oblivious to the reality that he employs one of the sport’s most talented quarterbacks. The word you’ll hear constantly from those who’ve been around McDermott is “tight.” He’s so incomprehensibly tight, they say, players cannot help but stiffen up themselves. As if the head coach uses the 2-minute warning to administer mass lobotomies on his team."
 

This, to me a simple fan, resonates with what I see in games and my gut instinct.

 

"One assistant coach remembers McDermott saying in the locker room that the offense scored too fast and left the Chiefs too much time."

 

Also, a head coach telling his team they lost because the offense scored too fast is a head coach who doesn't take accountability. If 25 insiders (even if "cherry picked" because they share a bias), have a similar view, that's a lot of smoke. I believe there's a fire.

[Einstein]

2 minutes ago, teef said:

i sure hope a three part story about me never comes out.

 

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[boyst]

9 minutes ago, bouds said:

Normally I use the bypass paywalls clean extension but that doesnt work on substack.

 

Tried using your link not working for me.  Insert Part 2/3 urls and still seems locked out.

Clicking on the linked page from the removed paywall site worked for me

[billieve420]

I don't doubt McDermott is a control freak. However, I also believe that Dunne has some axe to grind. Believe there was some issue between him and McDermott at some point when he was covering the team.

[PBF81]

1 hour ago, BillsShredder83 said:

how long is the read?

 

its $8 to sub, i have no interest in anything else, so it'll basically be an $8 article. things are tight over here lol im fine spending it if its a good read, lengthy, in depth, the 25 interviews pulled my interest

 

There's plenty of info in the first three parts that are free.  

 

 

[SoonerBillsFan]

Granted some of this may be made up BS or sour grapes...but way too much smoke not to have a forest fire.

 

He has always seemed like a napoleon type to me,and as others pointed out there are no more scapegoats.   He has been the problem for awhile.

 

Terry needs to fire him this offseason and hire an offensive minded  HC and let him work with Allen who has entered his prime years before its too late.

[Heitz]

1 hour ago, PBF81 said:

Yeah, this was pretty obvious before the season started.  It was also just a matter of time before this came out.  

 

McD's increasingly running out of scapegoats.  

 

Our franchise really doesn't need this.  

 

I think it's odd to say Dorsey was a scapegoat, he just wasn't good and his job and had to go.  If we were scoring 40, but giving up 45 and he was fired, he'd be a scapegoat.  Now he's just a guy who got fired. 🤷‍♂️

 

There was also some discussion of McD "holding himself accountable" and what that even means, or looks like.  Is he firing himself?  I'd argue he is holding himself accountable by firing Dorsey - he's the one that hired the guy, so to have to swallow your pride and say I "F'd up, dude has to go, so I'm going to fire him" is him being responsible for the problem and trying to find a fix.  

[Billsfan1972]

9 minutes ago, PBF81 said:

 

It stands to reason that's what McD means when he says "complimentary football."  

 

It's likely his way of saying that the offense supports the defense, in a nutshell.  

 

It's also corroborates Dunne's conclusions.  

 

This is all going to come out over time.   We'll see.  It almost always does.  And Dorsey's not going to sit still in interviews and continue to take the heat for McD when his future employment is on the line and McD wasn't loyal to him.  

 

Why do you think that McDimwit endorsed Dorsey?  Likely because he toed the "complimentary football" line.  It's going to be very interesting to see what happens with Brady, particularly now that the vast majority of fans want McD gone and the vast majority of the media back that notion.  We tend to play well for a few games with a renewed energy, as in the past two games with Brady.  Brady's going to have his hands full with the Chiefs' D on Sunday, which has yet not allowed more than 21 offensive points this season at home, and that only once, 17 once after that, and 14 twice tops otherwise.  

 

McD's effectively run out of people to blame and his own flaws are now being fully exposed.  

 

He's doing quite the job of making the most out of the rope that he's provided himself with.  

 

It's a little surprising how quickly and decisively he got to this point, but the outcome was easily predictable.  

 

 

I swear McD trotted out "complementary football" after an up-tempo offense scored too quick vs. Cincy, and the defense promptly allowed another 75 yard TD drive and then came out slowed the tempo and went three & out the next two drives.

 

Did not a reporter ask "why they didn't keep their foot on the gas" and McD referenced "Complementary Football"?    

[JohnNord]

2 minutes ago, PBF81 said:

 

It stands to reason that's what McD means when he says "complimentary football."  

 

It's likely his way of saying that the offense supports the defense, in a nutshell.  

 

It's also corroborates Dunne's conclusions.  

 

This is all going to come out over time.   We'll see.  It almost always does.  And Dorsey's not going to sit still in interviews and continue to take the heat for McD when his future employment is on the line and McD wasn't loyal to him.  

 

Why do you think that McDimwit endorsed Dorsey?  Likely because he toed the "complimentary football" line.  It's going to be very interesting to see what happens with Brady, particularly now that the vast majority of fans want McD gone and the vast majority of the media back that notion.  We tend to play well for a few games with a renewed energy, as in the past two games with Brady.  Brady's going to have his hands full with the Chiefs' D on Sunday, which has yet not allowed more than 21 offensive points this season at home, and that only once, 17 once after that, and 14 twice tops otherwise.  

 

McD's effectively run out of people to blame and his own flaws are now being fully exposed.  

 

He's doing quite the job of making the most out of the rope that he's provided himself with.  

 

It's a little surprising how quickly and decisively he got to this point, but the outcome was easily predictable.  

 

 

You mean the 2 coaches he fired?  That means he’s “running coaches out of town?”

[Mango]

7 minutes ago, billieve420 said:

I don't doubt McDermott is a control freak. However, I also believe that Dunne has some axe to grind. Believe there was some issue between him and McDermott at some point when he was covering the team.

 

I think this is true for Pegula Sports in general. They like to have a lot of control of the local sports media. It has been mentioned by people reporting on both sports across a few different outlets. 

That said, I think both Pegula and McBeane are lucky to be in Buffalo. Imagine trying to have that much control over Boston or NYC, or Philly. They wouldn't be able to hack it. 
 

Edited December 7, 2023 by Mango
removed stuff. don't want to hijack the thread.

[BananaB]

8 minutes ago, Nephilim17 said:

"He’s a coaching relic routinely paralyzed by fear late in games. He never imagines what could go right with 20 seconds left in regulation, instead forever horrified of what could go wrong. Oblivious to the reality that he employs one of the sport’s most talented quarterbacks. The word you’ll hear constantly from those who’ve been around McDermott is “tight.” He’s so incomprehensibly tight, they say, players cannot help but stiffen up themselves. As if the head coach uses the 2-minute warning to administer mass lobotomies on his team."
 

This, to me a simple fan, resonates with what I see in games and my gut instinct.

 

"One assistant coach remembers McDermott saying in the locker room that the offense scored too fast and left the Chiefs too much time."

 

Also, a head coach telling his team they lost because the offense scored too fast is a head coach who doesn't take accountability. If 25 insiders (even if "cherry picked" because they share a bias), have a similar view, that's a lot of smoke. I believe there's a fire.

Nah, this is common. All those massage therapists were lying about Desean Watso as well. 😂 

[JohnNord]

7 minutes ago, billieve420 said:

I don't doubt McDermott is a control freak. However, I also believe that Dunne has some axe to grind. Believe there was some issue between him and McDermott at some point when he was covering the team.

Ty has really good access in nearby small market teams like Jacksonville and Cincinnati.  
 

The team in his own backyard gives him no access.   That is his ax

[bouds]

3 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

Ty has really good access in nearby small market teams like Jacksonville and Cincinnati.  
 

The team in his own backyard gives him no access.   That is his ax

It's clear teh org doesn't like what's been reported in the past.  Dunne's had Monos on his podcast plenty of times, airing some of the inside discussions about what went on even before McD took over, so the blacklist he's on comes from high up, lol.

Edited December 7, 2023 by bouds

[NewEra]

6 minutes ago, billieve420 said:

I don't doubt McDermott is a control freak. However, I also believe that Dunne has some axe to grind. Believe there was some issue between him and McDermott at some point when he was covering the team.

Agreed.  There are multiple layers to this story.  If it were someone other than this particular author, I might view this in a different light.  
 

I believe there is a lot of truth to everything in the article. If we don’t make the playoffs, McD should be fired and he should be fired for a lot of what is written in the article.  
 

I’m just not a fan of the “opinion” the author interjects into an article based on a lot of fact.  It believe most (if not all) of it is true…..and the author should just let the facts speak for themselves.  But he couldn’t resist.  

[Donuts and Doritos]

Article says: Bills fans have endured "Seven years of torture", is this guy serious? Try 63 years buddy. Our suffering began long before Seany Boy.

 

 

 

Edited December 7, 2023 by Donuts and Doritos

[blitzboy54]

I read it end to end. I believe every word and it's damning. 

 

He gets called out as an lying, uptight, insecure micromanager who undermines everyone around him to protect his own shortcomings.