Who should coach this team in 2024?

[NoSaint]

11 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said:

No. He’s the easy scapegoat. The next man up in the blame game. Our losses are by 6, 5, 4, 6, 2, 3. I don’t think a new HC gets you over that hump. Players are put in a position to win week in and week out. We shouldn’t take that for granted.

we took the game out of their hands tonight 

[Nextmanup]

19 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

McDermott is absolutely not the answer. He’s a loser that always loses. If McDermott is fired, it’ll be one of the most desirable jobs available. If you were Terry Pegula, who would you hire? 
 

I’m in record that I’d fire McDermott in the morning and hand Brady the keys. I’d give him a 6 week audition. If it doesn’t work, I’d probably hire Bobby Slowik. Ben Johnson would be my 2nd option. 

How about waiting to see who is available among HCs and OCs among the guys who get fired day after season ends?

 

The best man available might well be in that pool.

 

I would push for experience and a veteran who has proven he can win, if that man exists this off-season.

if not, give Ben Johnson a shot at it.  why not?

 

 

 

 

 

 

[FireChans]

1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Naw, the heat will be too much. Albright already mentioned that the seat is hot. He won’t be back. He sucks and mediocrity can’t be a thing with Josh Allen here.

You have far more faith in the Pegulas than I do. 
 

Albright saying the coaches seat is warm after a gut wrenching loss in a down season isn’t the evidence you think it is lol.

[Cheektowaga Chad]

Anyone with a big enough brain to realize the team should be about Josh Allen and complimenting his play vs having him compliment the defense 

[Kirby Jackson]

12 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said:

No. He’s the easy scapegoat. The next man up in the blame game. Our losses are by 6, 5, 4, 6, 2, 3. I don’t think a new HC gets you over that hump. Players are put in a position to win week in and week out. We shouldn’t take that for granted.

This is weirdly ironic. The Bills have a +101 point differential. Only Baltimore’s is larger in the AFC. The Bills average 8.5 points more, per game, than their opponent yet are .500. That’s pretty much the definition of horrendous coaching. When they game gets close, they don’t close.

[TheFunPolice]

McDermott being back in 24 feels hopeless.

 

They'll burn all their draft capital on defense that never makes a play when it matters

[Kirby Jackson]

2 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

How about waiting to see who is available among HCs and OCs among the guys who get fired day after season ends?

 

The best man available might well be in that pool.

 

I would push for experience and a veteran who has proven he can win, if that man exists this off-season.

if not, give Ben Johnson a shot at it.  why not?

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don’t need to wait. I want to identify the person and hire them. 

[BarleyNY]

20 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

McDermott is absolutely not the answer. He’s a loser that always loses. If McDermott is fired, it’ll be one of the most desirable jobs available. If you were Terry Pegula, who would you hire? 
 

I’m in record that I’d fire McDermott in the morning and hand Brady the keys. I’d give him a 6 week audition. If it doesn’t work, I’d probably hire Bobby Slowik. Ben Johnson would be my 2nd option. 

At this point everyone should recognize that every season under McDermott is a lost season. If I’m being honest, after his massive choke in the 13 seconds debacle there was no real hope of better than what we’ve seen since then. The sooner we move on, the sooner we find a HC that can win it all. No guarantees we do, but there’s no chance if we don’t.  

[NoSaint]

1 minute ago, Bangarang said:

Slowik is interesting. He doesn’t have much coaching experience and this is first year as an OC. It’s tough to ignore what he’s done in Houston though and we’ve seen recent coaches who never even had play calling experience go on to

be good HCs. 

ultimately, playcalling isn’t a hard rule skill for head coaches, though it’s a nice thing to have. 

[RoscoeParrish]

1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said:

This is weirdly ironic. The Bills have a +101 point differential. Only Baltimore’s is larger in the AFC. The Bills average 8.5 points more, per game, than their opponent yet are .500. That’s pretty much the definition of horrendous coaching. When they game gets close, they don’t close.

Maybe the players choke? No it can’t be the players, way easier to blame Dorsey, I mean McD. 

Edited November 27, 2023 by RoscoeParrish

[Kirby Jackson]

2 minutes ago, FireChans said:

You have far more faith in the Pegulas than I do. 
 

Albright saying the coaches seat is warm after a gut wrenching loss in a down season isn’t the evidence you think it is lol.

He’s generally had an ear to the ground on the Bills. It’s obviously warm. They outscored teams by 8.5 points a week but win half of their games 😂😂. That’s only on him.

[Magox]

Belicheck, he and the Patriots will part ways and if you give him the right QB, he gets the job done.

[RoscoeParrish]

5 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

we took the game out of their hands tonight 

What? We are not in the game if McD doesn’t fire Dorsey.  That changed the outlook of the season. 

Edited November 27, 2023 by RoscoeParrish

[Bangarang]

Just now, NoSaint said:

ultimately, playcalling isn’t a hard rule skill for head coaches, though it’s a nice thing to have. 

I think the idea is obviously to hire an offensive HC who you can pair with our franchise QB entering his prime. That new HC doesn’t necessarily have to call plays but it would be nice.

[DrDawkinstein]

2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

This is weirdly ironic. The Bills have a +101 point differential. Only Baltimore’s is larger in the AFC. The Bills average 8.5 points more, per game, than their opponent yet are .500. That’s pretty much the definition of horrendous coaching. When they game gets close, they don’t close.

 

He is literally the anti-Tomlin. The Steelers have nothing, no QB, still squeezing out wins and in the playoffs. McD has everything he could wish for and keeps losing dumb, close games because he doesnt know when to put a foot on the opponents throat.

[Kirby Jackson]

4 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said:

Maybe the players choke? No it can’t be the players, way easier to blame Dorsey, I mean McD. 

His team has outscored the opposition by 8.5 points a week. How many spreads are 8.5? They are 2-6 in one score games. They took a knee with Josh Allen and 20 seconds. He’s 8-15 in 1 score games over the last 3 years!! How many TOTAL lossss over the last 3 years? Please do better…

Edited November 27, 2023 by Kirby Jackson

[ChrisWatson#21]

12 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

Keep Joe Brady. I know it's two weeks but I love his offense. 

 

Get Saleh out of NY for DC. 

 

HC, who knows. Would prefer someone with some past experience. 

Brady was good today my one complaint is about not getting Kincaid involved in the second half and especially overtime.  They never targeted him after the first half.🤔

[RoscoeParrish]

2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

His team has outscored the opposition by 8.5 points a week. How many spreads are 8.5? They are 2-6 in one score games. They took a knee with Josh Allen and 20 seconds. He’s 8-15 in 1 score games over the last 3 years!! How many TOTAL lossss over the last 3 years? Please do better…

Josh Allen ain’t clutch?

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

25 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Slowik is a young play caller for the Texans. He comes from the Kyle Shannahan tree. 

That’s good enough for me.

[Nitro]

McD will be given another year.  The reason will be all the injuries.  Many will not like it but that is what will happen.  

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

27 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

McDermott is absolutely not the answer. He’s a loser that always loses. If McDermott is fired, it’ll be one of the most desirable jobs available. If you were Terry Pegula, who would you hire? 
 

I’m in record that I’d fire McDermott in the morning and hand Brady the keys. I’d give him a 6 week audition. If it doesn’t work, I’d probably hire Bobby Slowik. Ben Johnson would be my 2nd option. 

 

I want to give Brady a legitimate shot. My only worry about making him HC is that's a ton to throw on the guy who was the QB coach 2 weeks ago.

 

It's hard to gripe when the offense put up 500 yards, 34 points and Allen looks like his old self. If he can adapt through the end of year I would like to see what he can do with a full off-season to install.

 

Right now that is literally the only the only justification I can think of to run it back next year

[Kirby Jackson]

Just now, RoscoeParrish said:

Josh Allen ain’t clutch?

Bro, I’m not trying to do this but what are you watching? Lol, just do better. He handed McDermott’s defense the lead after the 2 minute warning AND AGAIN in overtime. Sean managed to blow it twice. He called a stupid TO and then couldn’t get a stop. 
 

Courtesy of @HappyDays

 

https://x.com/werderedespn/status/1728955582361878751?s=46&t=aIi6rXjE4r9_s--847m7fQ

[NoSaint]

I think we know the usual list… I’ll throw a few names we don’t discuss weekly 

 

press taylor

frank smith

shane waldron

[RoscoeParrish]

Just now, Kirby Jackson said:

Bro, I’m not trying to do this but what are you watching? Lol, just do better. He handed McDermott’s defense the lead after the 2 minute warning AND AGAIN in overtime. Sean managed to blow it twice. He called a stupid TO and then couldn’t get a stop. 
 

Courtesy of @HappyDays

 

https://x.com/werderedespn/status/1728955582361878751?s=46&t=aIi6rXjE4r9_s--847m7fQ

He also let the Eagles back in the game by forcing a ball to Diggs for a pick.  It’s easy to point the finger at the HC.  Problem is not McD. 

[Kirby Jackson]

Just now, RoscoeParrish said:

He also let the Eagles back in the game by forcing a ball to Diggs for a pick.  It’s easy to point the finger at the HC.  Problem is not McD. 

Here’s another for you:

 

https://x.com/nickveronica/status/1728954473790558466?s=46&t=aIi6rXjE4r9_s--847m7fQ

[Turbo44]

In that weather and we have 500+ yards 0f offense, 320+ passing, and 80+ rushing by josh alone and we lose.  Crazy - only McTimid can accomplish that.  Those stats and he's too scared to try with 20 seconds left.....absolutely pathetic

[Kirby Jackson]

Just now, RoscoeParrish said:

He also let the Eagles back in the game by forcing a ball to Diggs for a pick.  It’s easy to point the finger at the HC.  Problem is not McD. 

If you’re watching this, with ALL of the math saying otherwise, and you continue to support McDermott, I must ask, are you related to him? 

[Turbo44]

1 minute ago, RoscoeParrish said:

He also let the Eagles back in the game by forcing a ball to Diggs for a pick.  It’s easy to point the finger at the HC.  Problem is not McD. 

MCD isn't the problem?  You watching the same game and defense that I am?  Bradbury made a nice play on the INT, PHI is a goods team that makes plays too.

[RoscoeParrish]

Just now, Kirby Jackson said:

If you’re watching this, with ALL of the math saying otherwise, and you continue to support McDermott, I must ask, are you related to him? 

No I’ve just been a fan of this franchise long enough to question whether firing the best coach we have ever had is the right move because we can’t get over the hump. 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

Why does anyone think these hot shot coordinators will be better? McDermott was a hot shot coordinator too. His problem is less about coordinating even now, and more about head coaching “feel.” That is a tough quality to pinpoint.

[Kirby Jackson]

Just now, RoscoeParrish said:

No I’ve just been a fan of this franchise long enough to question whether firing the best coach we have ever had is the right move because we can’t get over the hump. 

Lol, he’s not a good coach!! He has the best QB in franchise history. ANYBODY could coach this team to 10 wins. He’s Marty Schottenheimer. He’s Norv Turner. He’s a bottom 5 coach.

[RoscoeParrish]

Just now, Kirby Jackson said:

Lol, he’s not a good coach!! He has the best QB in franchise history. ANYBODY could coach this team to 10 wins. He’s Marty Schottenheimer. He’s Norv Turner. He’s a bottom 5 coach.

Disagree

[HappyDays]

7 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Bro, I’m not trying to do this but what are you watching? Lol, just do better. He handed McDermott’s defense the lead after the 2 minute warning AND AGAIN in overtime. Sean managed to blow it twice. He called a stupid TO and then couldn’t get a stop. 
 

Courtesy of @HappyDays

 

https://x.com/werderedespn/status/1728955582361878751?s=46&t=aIi6rXjE4r9_s--847m7fQ

 

Here's something crazy - the worst loss under McDermott was the 13 seconds game. In today's game he threw away 2 TOs despite knowing that if Philly made the FG we would have about 20 seconds left to drive and get a FG of our own.

 

The guy is so bad and un-self-aware he didn't learn from the biggest coaching failure of his life! He didn't use that information to gain an advantage!

 

Edited November 27, 2023 by HappyDays

[Billznut]

2 minutes ago, Turbo44 said:

In that weather and we have 500+ yards 0f offense, 320+ passing, and 80+ rushing by josh alone and we lose.  Crazy - only McTimid can accomplish that.  Those stats and he's too scared to try with 20 seconds left.....absolutely pathetic

Someone can look up the Ed Werder tweet just put out. The Bills were the first team ever to have over 500+ yards of offense, convert 10+ 3rd down conversions and win the turnover margin and EVER lose a game. Previous teams with all that were 39-0. This loss is just another definition of Billsy. And squarely on the coaching staff. 

[Kirby Jackson]

Just now, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Why does anyone think these hot shot coordinators will be better? McDermott was a hot shot coordinator too. His problem is less about coordinating even now, and more about head coaching “feel.” That is a tough quality to pinpoint.

Um, because he has +101 point differential and is 6-6. He outscored every team by 8.5 points and wins half of the time. He is 8-15 in 1 score games over the last 3 years. That’s ATROCIOUS. It doesn’t take much to think that almost ANYONE would be better.

[Kirby Jackson]

Just now, RoscoeParrish said:

Disagree

LOL, just admit that you were wrong about him. He’s awful. His team scores 8.5 points more than every team that they play and win half of the time!! That’s an incredible level of failure from McDermott.

[billsbackto81]

Can someone please explain to me what the obsession with Jim Harbaugh is on this board? 

[BBFL]

8 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

I think we know the usual list… I’ll throw a few names we don’t discuss weekly 

 

press taylor

frank smith

shane waldron

Interesting list. Waldron is probably the best out of those 3. 

[TheFunPolice]

4 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said:

No I’ve just been a fan of this franchise long enough to question whether firing the best coach we have ever had is the right move because we can’t get over the hump. 

 

Best coach we've ever had?

 

Based on what? We have a guy who in the Hall of Fame and led the team to 4 straight Super Bowls.

 

 

[NoSaint]

3 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Why does anyone think these hot shot coordinators will be better? McDermott was a hot shot coordinator too. His problem is less about coordinating even now, and more about head coaching “feel.” That is a tough quality to pinpoint.

the only way we can promise our coach doesn’t have that ability is standing pat.

 

will the next guy be better? Maybe. And that’s all that matters until we find the right one.