Virgil Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 I love McD and think he fixed a very broken culture here. However, you can only sustain your culture through winning to prove that it's the right culture. The winning hasn't happened to the level it needed to, so now the preaching of McD is falling on deaf ears. Sadly, McD's lack of offensive knowledge and inability to affect that side of the game will be his downfall. 1 6 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 As bad as we have been, I believe in letting McDermott try to redeem himself for the remainder of the season. 2 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 we've reached the point where it's worth taking a risk on someone else, even a young unknown Ben Johnson or a top college coach who knows how to maximize Josh 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Regardless of the reality of whether McDermott is "the problem".. it's clear there's issues that he can't resolve. The next guy may not be able to resolve them either, but they need to move on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Do I want him here in 2024? NO! Will he be here in 2024? 100% yes. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted November 14, 2023 Author Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Virgil said: I love McD and think he fixed a very broken culture here. However, you can only sustain your culture through winning to prove that it's the right culture. The winning hasn't happened to the level it needed to, so now the preaching of McD is falling on deaf ears. Sadly, McD's lack of offensive knowledge and inability to affect that side of the game will be his downfall. Well said. To add to what you just said: If your calling card as a head coach is mental toughness, attention to detail, and disciplined football, and your team is no longer ticking any of those boxes....what are you offering, exactly? If you're a defensive mind who -- when given the shot as the de facto defensive boss -- doesn't get the job done on defense (and yes, I know there have been an unreal amount of key injures), then what are you offering, exactly? I have always been a McDermott defender, but my gut and my eyeballs (not to mention the look on Josh Allen's face most games) tell me it's time for a fresh start. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 13 minutes ago, SCBills said: Absent a 6-1 finish, with a run in the Playoffs.. absolutely not. They have a better chance of seeing God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Gun to the head now I voted no, but my real answer is wait and see until the season end. Bit for the moment it is unlikely that I'll want him back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, Logic said: I'm trying to get a feel for where Bills fans stand on this issue this morning. Simple Yes or No question. You need a 3rd answer: Undecided or Inconclusive Ive long thought, and still do, that McD is a good football coach. His coaching record supports that, and honestly, its indisputable no matter how bad someone wants him gone. However, not every good football coach is the right coach for the team at a specific time. Andy Reid's time came to a close in Philly, Belichick is wearing out his welcome in NE, Coughlin wore his welcome out more than once, Harbaugh lost the team in SF, etc etc. Sometimes a fresh change is just needed for the team and the coach. So even if McD is replaced, I will hold the opinion he is a good football HC while he is on the open market and I would expect him to land a new gig. But, I don't know if McD is done here right now...I know that Dorsey and the offense have been a major problem and the sole reason we have 5 losses though. The defense, despite its injuries has played well enough and held together well enough after devastating injuries for us to be 10-0, but the offense crapped the bed week 1 and then again in all 4 of our losses along with 2 weak wins we barely snuck out with against Giants and Bucs. So...for me, I want to see how this team now responds to the shake up of getting rid of Dorsey. It doesn't mean Joe Brady is the answer either, I mean he is an interim OC, not someone they went out and hired to rebuild the offense. But, if McD to get this team to rally around Brady and turn this thing around and make the playoffs still, then I support McD returning next year either with Brady or someone else at OC if need be. But, if its just more of the same the rest of the season even after the change and we miss the playoffs then I think its time for a new coaching staff and let Beane find his guy (McD was hired before Beane). 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 14 minutes ago, boater said: This is a question better asked at the end of the season. Everybody has an emotional hot head today, that's a piss poor time to be making big decisions. I've had the same take since 13 seconds. That was like his 3rd strike to me. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 You're missing the "***** no" option.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 15 minutes ago, boater said: This is a question better asked at the end of the season. Everybody has an emotional hot head today, that's a piss poor time to be making big decisions. I think this coaching staff (led by McDermott) has served up enough heart wrenching/ unbelievable losses. It's obvious that it comes back to 13-seconds. A lot of credibility was lost at that moment. And you're just seeing a natural climb, peak, plateau and regression. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 My prediction, even if the Bills lose out, is that the Bills organization that gave McDermott a large extension this past off season will push the narrative that “Even Hall of Fame coaches have bad seasons. The great ender of droughts deserves a rebound season” 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Doesn’t matter what we want. 0% chance he’s getting fired. McDermott is the guy calling the shots in Buffalo. Whatever McDermott wants, he’s going to get. You could tell after McDermott presser last night that changes were going to be made. If you guys remember when they hired McDermott. They hired him before they hired the GM which was unheard of at the time. McDermott led the GM search. Everything starts with him. Terry has given him the keys. The success the Bills have had in his tenure. He’ll get his opportunity to right the ship. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, BillMafia716ix said: Doesn’t matter what we want. 0% chance he’s getting fired. McDermott is the guy calling the shots in Buffalo. Whatever McDermott wants, he’s going to get. You could tell after McDermott presser last night that changes were going to be made. If you guys remember when they hired McDermott. They hired him before they hired the GM which was unheard of at the time. McDermott led the GM search. Everything starts with him. Terry has given him the keys. The success the Bills have had in his tenure. He’ll get his opportunity to right the ship. Zero percent eh? I'm guessing with a loss to the Jets this week, and a trouncing by the Eagles the following Sunday, he could get fired at the bye week. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 I don't want him to be the HC of the 2023 Bills. The buck stops at the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, Negan said: Zero percent eh? I'm guessing with a loss to the Jets this week, and a trouncing by the Eagles the following Sunday, he could get fired at the bye week. Not happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 37 minutes ago, Logic said: I'm trying to get a feel for where Bills fans stand on this issue this morning. Simple Yes or No question. No but he has 7 games to convince me otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 They lose to the Jets just fire him now. Heck they lose one more game this year fire him. Only chance for survival is if he wins out and the team shows up like they want to be here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Who are we replacing him with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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