BullBuchanan Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Just now, TampaBillsJunkie said: Got to scheme guys open. Miami does it. We have a bad set of plays that do not take advantage of our talent or create mismatches. It's the same crap all the time against every team. Nothing schemed up that is new to take advantage of different defenses. The whole league was on to us and knows what we are going to do all the time. That is on the OC. The other things you mention add into it, but if you scheme guys open you don't need to throw into double coverage. Have you not watched a single analyst coverage or all 22 from the Bills this year? Our guys have been running wide open all season. Allen isn't throwing to them. He's keying in on his first read like a true freshman running an air raid offense. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said: You are absolutely wrong on all accounts. Not really. Josh deserves some of the blame. He absolutely does the things you disagree with. Dorsey’s offense as a whole was terrible but there’s been a lot of times where Josh did exactly what Bull described. I don’t get why people refuse to see that Josh is a part of the problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Russ Brandon should be fired. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Irv said: Joe Brady should be fired. Are you going to start the official thread? Nevermind. @boyst already did. Edited November 14, 2023 by Low Positive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMaster Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, BigDingus said: It's going to sound harsh, but Josh cost Dorsey his job. Dorsey has had plenty of issues, but he didn't make Josh & Co. turn the ball over so many times... It got to the point where fans were saying Josh was throwing the game. Dorsey's gameplan was actually solid last night. Execution sunk it. Receivers dropping passes, poor decision making, fumbles on top of INTs... all soured huge improvements to the run game & overall balanced approach. This is true. Dorsey did turn out a pretty good game plan lastnight The execution wasn't there from the players, from the defense, and special teams...which is on McDermott 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Part of me wonders is the issue with Diggs was that he decided to speak to someone like Beane or even Pegula about McDermott on behalf of some of the players but Josh didn't back him up. That might explain his reaction after "meetings" this offseason. Sadly, because of what happened with Josh McDaniels I doubt McDermott would hold a "airing of grievances" meeting at this point. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Not that Dorsey deserved to stay but now, he and Frazier are the scapegoats. Who's next? The real problem is McDermott, and the way he manages and constructed the team. I have said it for years, McDermott has FAR to much power in the organization, and just isn't up to the task. He needed to be fired before last night, and getting rid of him in a prompt manner would be a great step forward for our beloved franchise. 1 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Dorsey, see door. Right before that left deep out INT play (a bad decision/throw by JA17), a fan behind me (I think of DEN) said “let me guess double deep outs” which then happened. Predictable. Unimaginative. Designs that strike fear into the hearts of no one save maybe some Bills players and fans. Interested to hear Diggs’ take on this. Anyone know if Brady prefers booth to field? I think JA17 needs someone in his face and chewing him out like those Daboll clips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: When? Have you seen anyone with the balls to do that to Josh? Did you not see giants/bills post game? Josh loves him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Also, wouldn’t go too far with Allen being a problem: https://x.com/davemyersbib/status/1724459444514456011?s=46&t=b_6DEUCIOVykcHVZYqq8jg 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Dan Darragh said: Reminds me of 2016 when Rex fired the OC (a day after scoring 31 in a loss to the Jets) - mostly to deflect fire from himself Dorsey reminds me lots of Roman. Both at the right time had to go during that season and this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yav Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: Probably not. That's the concerning thing about Bills ownership and management. It's much more reactive than proactive. I don’t believe that. That last drive sure did look like McD was calling the offensive plays. Unless I was seeing things it didn’t look like Dorsey had a headset on or was happy. There was no game plan in place to attack a D that struggles against the run. Instead Dorsey decided to throw the ball with a QB who has a shoulder problem when the running game was able to produce and sustain drives. Dorsey was holding the offense back and you could see it with the players. They were not happy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCAS Baritone Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Given that a big part of our problem is Josh Allen right now, I am wondering who had a bigger negative effect on Josh - the OC (Dorsey) or the QB Coach (Brady). I guess we will find out shortly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 When a couple players arent executing well, that is on them. When an entire group of highly talented players are not executing, that is on the coaches. That is what happened to our Offense and Ken Dorsey. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 18 minutes ago, Real McNasty said: O game plan was actually pretty solid last night. Add in the dropped passes too O game plan should have been more run heavy considering the Broncos have a terrible run defense and we were churning out yards. Same for the Bengals game the week prior (Motor just tore them up this week). One of Dorsey’s problems was he would just run his offense and think that should be enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 12 minutes ago, appoo said: Because the Bills haven’t lost to a team that’s worse than them in terms of perosnell. The one big thing they did to make themselves the same level as the Chiefs and Bengals was Von Miller who hasn’t been available. This year alone the Bills have lost to the Rodgers-less Jets, the Jags, the Pats and the Broncos. They haven't lost to a team that's worse than them in terms of personnel? Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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From Roc to Ky bills fan Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 31 minutes ago, appoo said: Josh is gonna be here another 8-10 years All due respect appoo, Superbowl windows are a young man's game... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Part of me wonders is the issue with Diggs was that he decided to speak to someone like Beane or even Pegula about McDermott on behalf of some of the players but Josh didn't back him up. That might explain his reaction after "meetings" this offseason. Sadly, because of what happened with Josh McDaniels I doubt McDermott would hold a "airing of grievances" meeting at this point. LOL Well it was either about Dorsey or Sean. We'll see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 20 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Wgr running this Sabres show after this news and the day after a huge Bills loss. What a joke. The Sabres have better odds of making the playoffs than the Bills right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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