DORSEY FIRED, Joe Brady Interim OC

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 minute ago, thenorthremembers said:

Anyone looking for McDermott to get fired will have to hold their breath.   He will get another season after this year.   Whether you like it or not making the playoffs 5 of 6, likely now 7, earns you that.

He’ll get one more year imo if this season continues to be a mess 

[BullBuchanan]

This just about guarantees McDermott is a dead man walking. Dorsey had some boneheaded play calls for sure, but the overwhelming faults of this team have been related to preparation and execution - not playcalling. As we've seen week after week, guys have been open and the plays have been there, but mental mistakes have been our undoing drive after drive.

[MarkKelso'sHelmet]

GLORY BE TO GOD IN THE HIGHEST

[HomeskillitMoorman]

1 minute ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

McDermott better run the table here now because there’s nobody left to hide behind. Dabol, Les, Dorsey….nobody left to use as a shield. Get some madden 05 out and learn some ***** clock management bub.

 

Yup, nobody left to scapegoat. That's the most hopeful news here for the dream of him getting canned after the season. 

[Buffalo68]

34 minutes ago, colin said:

if i see a more purposeful O with lots of under center, i'm buying in.

 

im a fool and a glutton for punishment.  i'm dejected and hopeful at the same time.

 

My name is Colin, and I'm a Bills fan.

Your not going to see that; same sheet of music, Carolina retread, spread formations, empty backfield, smh.

 

[Fleezoid]

[davefan66]

1 minute ago, Doc Brown said:

Dorsey deserved the season.  This was a panic move.

I thought it was going to play out that way.

 

To me, it was one of two things.  Either there was a player revolt against Dorsey, or McD was given no choice from management.  It is likely a combination of both.

[appoo]

1 minute ago, UKBillFan said:

 

Yeah, right, as if Brady will be able to make calls without deferring to McDermott. Expect slow tempo and drawn out drives to continue (providing the players don't fumble, drop or throw interceptions) to eat up TOP.

Lack of explosive plays is a league wide issue

[Straight Hucklebuck]

If McDermott is coaching this team in 2024 Pegula deserves what he gets. 

 

He needs to be shown the door. 

[Don Otreply]

28 minutes ago, boyst said:

dorsey was screwed last night by mcchump benching cook.

Amongst other things, yes.

[Doc Brown]

I'm in the minority but Dorsey didn't deserve to be fired.  This was a panic move.

[appoo]

Just now, Buffalo68 said:

Your not going to see that; same sheet of music, Carolina retread, spread formations, empty backfield, smh.

 

Diversity of concepts is a good thing. The inconsistent nature of it was probably what got Dorsey fired

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

Wonder if we see any changes to personnel here. Like Davis out or some shakeups. You’d assume this guy wouldn’t see everything exactly the same as Dorsey 

[BeastMaster]

8 minutes ago, appoo said:

You guys act like the bills haven’t been wildly successful under McDermott 

Regular season wise, sure.

 

This team has underperformed in the playoffs for years, and now they have failed miserably in the regular season. 

 

The Bills have been going backwards, and that is on McDermott 

[MarkKelso'sHelmet]

2 minutes ago, davefan66 said:

I thought it was going to play out that way.

 

To me, it was one of two things.  Either there was a player revolt against Dorsey, or McD was given no choice from management.  It is likely a combination of both.

This is the next question. Who made the call? Was it Pegula or McDermott? 

Edited November 14, 2023 by MarkKelso'sHelmet

[DrDawkinstein]

26 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

Wasn’t Joe Brady very pass heavy with Sam Darnold as his QB and CMC as his RB? And didn’t the Panthers offense get better when he was fired and Ben McAdoo took over? 
 

Someone please correct me if I’m mistaken here. 

 

So what? The move here wasnt to promote Brady because the FO thinks he's a better or even good OC. The move was firing Dorsey in order to stop the bleeding, make a change, wake up the team, and see how the rest of the season goes under McD.

 

No one should be expecting Brady to be the savior of the offense. That likely wont happen until next season at best.

 

But Dorsey had to go. And now we can determine if McD has to go too ("we" being ownership, since WE all know that answer)

[Roundybout]

14 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

Because he was in the locker room and he affords a hint as to what the players might be thinking.  

He’s salty about McD because he cut him because he sucked 

[Captain Hindsight]

1 minute ago, Doc Brown said:

I'm in the minority but Dorsey didn't deserve to be fired.  This was a panic move.

Agree and disagree. The offense has been bad for long stretches this season, Dorsey was clearly a problem. I also think this is a bit of a panic move. Both things can be true 

[MarkKelso'sHelmet]

Good riddance to fourth and inches shotgun Dorsey. 

[boyst]

For those who don't know, I will say some things I've said before. It's on you to weigh it but...

 

Daboll was fed up with the way McDermott meddled with things. McDermott didn't earn respect and wasn't liked by many players, in turn daboll earned respect from the offense who bought into him. This caused a rift between McDermotts "process" and Dabolls calm zen like approach that guided our offense. Think back how relaxed we were.

 

With 13 seconds the trust daboll had earned shown in how that offense went out and executed precisely as a top team should with great talent. They were all in on trusting Daboll to put them in a position to win. McDermott had been over the shoulder much of the season with Frazier that year. As the game got tight at closing some felt as if McDermott took his hands off the wheel a little and lost composure/control. Frazier did a lot in those last minutes. The kickoff has McDermott coaching one thing but not the ST who had the kickoff and coverage out of sync. 

 

Players knew this. They were told all their career in Buffalo that there was a process and trust. And accountability. There were fights in the lockerroom and on the way back. To my knowledge no physical assaults, but peoppe pulled apart.

 

This was not even the first eyebrow raising issue. That was 2017 and the Peterman 5 pick game in SD. The entire team was against it. Team Captains told coach they didn't want it. Peterman comes in and throws 5 picks. By halftime players have texted a few friends and folks some pretty harsh words. No one could explain it. It was easily forgotten when we made the playoffs. Easily forgotten now.

 

Going back to 13 seconds - you can look at some interesting tidbits: Spain and coach argued, Hughes always being in the doghouse for no reason, Beasley completely abandoned and not supported to be himself, Araiza dropped, Levi Wallace getting tossed as a scapegoat, many others.

 

The lockeroom has a divide in the lockerroom that doesn't trust McDermott. That's part of the reason some players are here and stick/stuck (Lee Smith, AJ Klein).

 

There is a lot there that was seen and known by people around and left, even if we didn't like them. I would honestly love if Whaley came out and weighed in on his personal thoughts - it'd be a treat for that to be public.