DORSEY FIRED, Joe Brady Interim OC

[DapperCam]

McDermott is coaching for his job now. If it is anything like how he handles high pressure game situations, it isn’t going to be pretty.

[UKBillFan]

4 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

You understand how insane it is to pretend his first 2 seasons he was set up to succeed?  Kelvin Benjamin was his #1 WR when he was drafted.  We had no talent on this roster and Allen came from a small school and was totally raw.  

 

People like you like to lump in his career totals so you can use those early years to mask the last 3 years where he was an MVP finalist all 3.  Its insane.  

 

News flash:  Coming into 2023, Allen only had 4 more INTs than Mahomes and 3 more than Burrow over the past 2 regular seasons.  And Mahomes had more talent around him and a much better OL along with Andy Reid.  Burrow had an elite cast of weapons.  And Allen played half of one of those seasons with an injured throwing elbow.  

 

Bonus news flash:  Josh has 10 more (which is DOUBLE) the amount of TD's than Burrow and a lower turnover rate than Burrow in the post season despite only playing 1 more game than him.  

 

Allen is not the problem. 

 

Josh was not the problem. He is part of the problem this year.

[hondo in seattle]

1 hour ago, boyst said:

wow

 

edit: the shock wore off. this means mcdermott felt pressure and now has even more upon him. if the rest of the season looks the same then we know it's not just the OC. this is McD playing for his job.

 

mcdermott also not holding himself accountable for benching cook. that was a betraying dorsey and setting him up to fail last night.

 

How do you know he's not holding himself accountable?   What do you want him to do?  Publicly fire himself?  Do you quit your job when you make a mistake at work to hold yourself accountable?  

 

Every evening, I hold up a mirror to myself and conduct what the army calls an "After Action Review."  I ask myself four questions.  What did I do right today?  What could have I done better?  What did I learn?  And what will I do differently going forward?    I don't discuss this with anyone.  This is my personal process to hold myself accountable and grow.  Maybe McD does something like this.  None of us know how McD holds himself accountable.  

[ngbills]

Special team coordinator squished under the McD bus

DC squished under the McD bus

OC squished under the McD bus

 

[TAinLack.]

1 hour ago, boyst said:

wow

 

edit: the shock wore off. this means mcdermott felt pressure and now has even more upon him. if the rest of the season looks the same then we know it's not just the OC. this is McD playing for his job.

 

mcdermott also not holding himself accountable for benching cook. that was a betraying dorsey and setting him up to fail last night.

Surprised McD didn't assume the O.C. position for the rare triple play of coaching responsibilities!

 

Edited November 14, 2023 by TAinLack.
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[Lost]

1 minute ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

How do you know he's not holding himself accountable?   What do you want him to do?  Publicly fire himself?  Do you quit your job when you make a mistake at work to hold yourself accountable?  

 

Every evening, I hold up a mirror to myself and conduct what the army calls an "After Action Review."  I ask myself four questions.  What did I do right today?  What could have I done better?  What did I learn?  And what will I do differently going forward?    I don't discuss this with anyone.  This is my personal process to hold myself accountable and grow.  Maybe McD does something like this.  None of us know how McD holds himself accountable.  

 

 

Yes..

[UKBillFan]

1 minute ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

How do you know he's not holding himself accountable?   What do you want him to do?  Publicly fire himself?  Do you quit your job when you make a mistake at work to hold yourself accountable?  

 

Every evening, I hold up a mirror to myself and conduct what the army calls an "After Action Review."  I ask myself four questions.  What did I do right today?  What could have I done better?  What did I learn?  And what will I do differently going forward?    I don't discuss this with anyone.  This is my personal process to hold myself accountable and grow.  Maybe McD does something like this.  None of us know how McD holds himself accountable.  

 

His press conference last night for one.

[BillsFooteball]

I’m all for it but ok McDermott no more scapegoats. This is 100% on you. Losing big games in just an unbelievable fashion goes back to head coach, not any coordinator. Here’s to hoping Joe brings out best of Allen and this offense for this bleak season 

[BillsShredder83]

56 minutes ago, appoo said:

Thats not how this works 

genuinely asking..... ive seen here a bunch that beane cant fire mcd. does he have authority to fire dorsey? or did he rather? confusing power structure

even if we think mcd did it, did beane have power to do it outside of recommending or insisting?

[Low Positive]

2 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

How do you know he's not holding himself accountable?   What do you want him to do?  Publicly fire himself?  Do you quit your job when you make a mistake at work to hold yourself accountable?  

 

Every evening, I hold up a mirror to myself and conduct what the army calls an "After Action Review."  I ask myself four questions.  What did I do right today?  What could have I done better?  What did I learn?  And what will I do differently going forward?    I don't discuss this with anyone.  This is my personal process to hold myself accountable and grow.  Maybe McD does something like this.  None of us know how McD holds himself accountable.  

I think that he should have to stand at midfield after every home loss and let fans throw rotten tomatoes at him.

[Governor]

12 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said:

McD is a great leader, but he’s not a head coach that will win you championships.  

My gf said that it looks like the team doesn’t practice during the week. She knows nothing about football. This team comes out prepared maybe twice a season. Last year was no different. We were the worst 13-3 team in history and everyone knows it. I haven’t seen a complete game from these clowns since last years Rams game.

 

That is entirely on McD. 

Edited November 14, 2023 by Governor

[Mango]

7 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

You understand how insane it is to pretend his first 2 seasons he was set up to succeed?  Kelvin Benjamin was his #1 WR when he was drafted.  We had no talent on this roster and Allen came from a small school and was totally raw.  

 

People like you like to lump in his career totals so you can use those early years to mask the last 3 years where he was an MVP finalist all 3.  Its insane.  

 

News flash:  Coming into 2023, Allen only had 4 more INTs than Mahomes and 3 more than Burrow over the past 2 regular seasons.  And Mahomes had more talent around him and a much better OL along with Andy Reid.  Burrow had an elite cast of weapons.  And Allen played half of one of those seasons with an injured throwing elbow.  

 

Bonus news flash:  Josh has 10 more (which is DOUBLE) the amount of TD's than Burrow and a lower turnover rate than Burrow in the post season despite only playing 1 more game than him.  

 

Allen is not the problem. 

 

It is interesting you include total TD for Allen but then only rely on INT's without including fumbles. turnovers This is Allens 5th year averaging over a turn over per game or more. This is Mahomes 2nd and Burrow has only done it once. Both Mahomes and Burrow have been at 1.0 but never over.

 

I think there is room for a lot of things to be true at the same time. 

We need better WR's.
We need better coaching.
Allen needs to do better at taking care of the football in the air and on the ground. 

 

Edited November 14, 2023 by Mango

[boyst]

1 minute ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

How do you know he's not holding himself accountable?   What do you want him to do?  Publicly fire himself?  Do you quit your job when you make a mistake at work to hold yourself accountable?  

 

Every evening, I hold up a mirror to myself and conduct what the army calls an "After Action Review."  I ask myself four questions.  What did I do right today?  What could have I done better?  What did I learn?  And what will I do differently going forward?    I don't discuss this with anyone.  This is my personal process to hold myself accountable and grow.  Maybe McD does something like this.  None of us know how McD holds himself accountable.  

The history of McDermott is against this. From his scapegoat ST after 13 seconds to this 12 men on the field moment.

 

There used to be an argument that McDermott was too focused on defense and not enough on the rest. If that's the case why can't he count to 12? Why ain't he noticing 12 men, or someone else? All of these breakdowns around him show the sign. 

[Success]

It's the right move.

 

The biggest difference w/ this team is that we're simply not scoring points like we used to.  And we have a better line, running game & have added Kincaid.

 

Beyond that, Allen is regressing.  Someone needs to help him realize his potential. Dorsey had his shot.

 

[Cheektowaga Chad]

Allen is currently part of the problem

 

But here is the thing Allen is also 100% the solution 

[Bill from NYC]

Question for Bills Fans: Who do you think was the most responsible for Firing Dorsey?

 

A) Mr. Pegula

B) Beane

C) McDermott

 

I am of the very strong opinion that Mr. Pegula gave the power to McDermott to make moves like this, AND gave him final say wrt the draft. I also think that he was the one to fire Frazier. 

 

Jmo but curious as to what others think.

[Paup 1995MVP]

1 hour ago, boyst said:

defense let every short yardage conversion possible happen. poor concepts. could not touch wilson. couldn't tackle. weren't aware of anything in space.

Defense was awful in the 4th qtr.  Let the Broncos move up and down the field.  We can't stop the short pass in the flats.  Watch the Broncos second TD.  Their RB walked into the end zone.  Bernard played well.  But noone on the outside can tackle other then Douglas.  

[boyst]

1 minute ago, UKBillFan said:

 

His press conference last night for one.

He didn't talk about anything else but everyone else. A lot of "we's".

 

Leaders accept all responsibility, solely. He needs to say "I" when it's bad, we when it's good.  He doesn't. He's a chump clown

[BillsShredder83]

57 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said:

Just so folks know….

 

Joe Brady was the OC In Carolina, Learned under Sean Payton for a couple years. Prior to coaching Burrow at LSU.

 

His QB was Teddy Bridgewater behind a terrible Oline who threw for nearly 4000 yards. With Mike Davis at RB.

 

Carolina had almost 3x 1000  yard WRs and Robbie Anderson had nearly 100 Catches.

 

I would say with half the talent this team has now he did pretty good. Hopefully his play calling style will have a difference 

 

 

 

 

he got fired mid season year 1 too didnt he? textbook sacrificial lamb from rhule

[hondo in seattle]

16 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said:

They had to do something...

 

As a fan, it can be hard to assign blame.  How much of the offense's woes can we put on Beane?  McD?  Dorsey?  The players?   Looking at Dorsey, he didn't create those turnovers.  You've got to blame the players.  Then again, there might be shortcomings on how Dorsey prepares the team that make turnovers more likely.  

 

But if I was McD, I'd probably fire Dorsey, too.  You gotta hold somebody accountable and Dorsey is the offensive orchestra conductor.  His musicians haven't been playing beautiful music lately.

 

I am concerned, though, that McD doesn't seem to have a great relationship with his coordinators.  I'm also not sure why anyone should expect Brady to do better but hopefully he does.