34-78-83 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 It has been explained on here before (Hoofhearted for example) but the Shotgun runs that many are yelling at the wind about is a big part of our successful read-option (RPO) game. Sure, it hasn't always worked, especially on the goal line, but overall it HAS worked. The shortsighted takes over and over and over without learning anything about the game are so muich fun to read through though! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 22 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Â Think he takes Ty Johnson's spot on the practice squad with a few call-ups til Harris gets back. Â Johnson is on the 53-man roster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said: Benjamin Allbright reporting that Bills, SF and Cowboys are "in on CB Jaylon Johnson" from Da Bears. I looked further - some twitter saying Bills have made offer of: Elam and 2nd round pick for Johnson. Hmmmmm.. Beaner up to a good deed? That would be a helluva trade. The bears stink but he’s been stellar this season….. but he’s an UFA after the season.   Would we sign him to an extension?  I suppose trading elam and a 2nd would’nt  be too bad-  even if we let him go after the year, we could get a 3rd rd pick for losing him.  I think he’ll get over 18M a year if not 20+.  or maybe we cut Tre and use that money in Jaylon.  We’d save a little over 6M releasing Tre.  I’d love to get this kid. Edited October 30, 2023 by NewEra 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmcintos99 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 54 minutes ago, NUT said: This is not going to help anything. wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, 34-78-83 said: It has been explained on here before (Hoofhearted for example) but the Shotgun runs that many are yelling at the wind about is a big part of our successful read-option (RPO) game. Sure, it hasn't always worked, especially on the goal line, but overall it HAS worked. The shortsighted takes over and over and over without learning anything about the game are so muich fun to read through though! I always get eyeroll emojis when I post this, but fans like the plays that work and dislike the plays that don't work. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 The Bills aren't going anywhere without a consistent running attack, this should help. OH, BTW, I told you so 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Johnson is on the 53-man roster  Ah...I missed that one...so he takes Johnson's spot on the PS essentially. Wonder if he is the odd man out when Harris comes back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, 34-78-83 said: It has been explained on here before (Hoofhearted for example) but the Shotgun runs that many are yelling at the wind about is a big part of our successful read-option (RPO) game. Sure, it hasn't always worked, especially on the goal line, but overall it HAS worked. The shortsighted takes over and over and over without learning anything about the game are so muich fun to read through though! Great.  Sounds like smart people overthinking things.  You have a 6’5 240 lb. qb and you should have him qb sneak it from a half yard line out in 3rd and goal or less every darn time.  You won’t lose yards and they’re not stopping you more than twice in a row. Edited October 30, 2023 by Doc Brown 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, 34-78-83 said: It has been explained on here before (Hoofhearted for example) but the Shotgun runs that many are yelling at the wind about is a big part of our successful read-option (RPO) game. Sure, it hasn't always worked, especially on the goal line, but overall it HAS worked. The shortsighted takes over and over and over without learning anything about the game are so muich fun to read through though! IMO, it only works if Josh was actually running more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Process said: Â Â Â Yep. Murray looked like the veteran between-the-tackles back we needed to compliment Cook earlier in the year, but as the season has gone on, it is becoming more and more apparent that he just doesn't have the juice to get through the rest of the season in a role that had become bigger with the loss of Harris. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, 34-78-83 said: It has been explained on here before (Hoofhearted for example) but the Shotgun runs that many are yelling at the wind about is a big part of our successful read-option (RPO) game. Sure, it hasn't always worked, especially on the goal line, but overall it HAS worked. The shortsighted takes over and over and over without learning anything about the game are so muich fun to read through though!  I don't think people realize just how many plays a game the Bills run RPO's on...it's A LOT and it's far more varied and diverse than most teams in the NFL. See the breakdown I posted with JT O'Sullivan QB School from Week 8 against TB and he breaks down their RPO game quite a bit and is amazed and cannot heap enough praise on how exceptional it is from pretty much every standpoint. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, Process said: Â Â Â How is that possible? Â Damn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, Process said: Â Â Â Â How many of those were runs from the shotgun? Just now, Royale with Cheese said: How is that possible? Â Damn. Â Handing him the ball at the 4 or 5 yard line in the shotgun? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 I'm guessing Henry was no longer available / going to be moved for a reasonable price. Good Signing. I wanted this weeks ago 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 I like this a lot. This guy is way better then Murray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shemp Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Maybe he's better on the goal line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: How is that possible?  Damn. Because he’s old and not good. He also never really was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Great.  Sounds like smart people overthinking things.  You have a 6’5 240 lb. qb and you should have him qb sneak it from a half yard line out in 3rd and goal or less every darn time.  You won’t lose yards and they’re not stopping you more than twice in a row. While I agree with you, it appears that the coaching staff is worried about Josh's health (especially with the nagging shoulder) and reluctant to run this play as often as we would like. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 24 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said: Benjamin Allbright reporting that Bills, SF and Cowboys are "in on CB Jaylon Johnson" from Da Bears. I looked further - some twitter saying Bills have made offer of: Elam and 2nd round pick for Johnson. Hmmmmm.. Beaner up to a good deed? Seems like a lot for a rental.🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 11 minutes ago, 34-78-83 said: It has been explained on here before (Hoofhearted for example) but the Shotgun runs that many are yelling at the wind about is a big part of our successful read-option (RPO) game. Sure, it hasn't always worked, especially on the goal line, but overall it HAS worked. The shortsighted takes over and over and over without learning anything about the game are so muich fun to read through though! maybe RPO needs to drop from the playbook  on the goal line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Fournette is still 28.  This C O U L D  be an impactful signing. Especially down the stretch 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 hour ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: I think he looks ready for it like the compression socks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 He's also an under rated receiving back as he was a good check down option for Brady. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 27 minutes ago, wppete said: Fournette should apologize to Shaq and not upset him. Last guy on the Bills to upset. He’s a freak and probably the toughest guy on the team. Wallace and Moncrief just staying on the ground.  Moncrief: Dude why aren't you letting go I got it. Wallace: Man do you really want to get up into this? Moncrief: Good point let's just wait it out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkirk Donski Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Just now, The Jokeman said: He's also an under rated receiving back as he was a good check down option for Brady. Good enough for Brady but is he good enough for McBeane? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdmoreRyno Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Hey, this guy isn't doing anything either... (but selling cars here in Oklahoma) Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Â 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said: Hey, this guy isn't doing anything either... (but selling cars here in Oklahoma) Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Didn't realize Lenny caught so many passes. He caught more passes than anyone not named Diggs last year and by a country mile. Not that we throw to RB's a lot but if he can pass block, catch some passes, and run a little bit he's a great pick up. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Murray can block, and has caught a couple passes in stride for first downs. He isn't lost out there, and has a role. Not dynamic on the run anymore though so far. LF has to learn the playbook, and get his wind back. Don't think we will see LF this week, but who knows, a crazy year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 19 minutes ago, 2003Contenders said: While I agree with you, it appears that the coaching staff is worried about Josh's health (especially with the nagging shoulder) and reluctant to run this play as often as we would like. They ran it the next series. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 8 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Â Can you get a targeting penalty on a block? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Hey Shaq, what up dog? ***** you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsturfwars Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 49 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Dorsey: Hey Beane, this shotgun at the goal line isn’t working.  Beane: Why don’t we just sneak it?  That would easily solve the problem.  Dorsey: I think we just need a bigger back.  Please? This made me laugh out loud. I do think this is more of a insurance policy for D. Harris, as it seems like hes going to be out longer than initially expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 27 minutes ago, Big Turk said:  I don't think people realize just how many plays a game the Bills run RPO's on...it's A LOT and it's far more varied and diverse than most teams in the NFL. See the breakdown I posted with JT O'Sullivan QB School from Week 8 against TB and he breaks down their RPO game quite a bit and is amazed and cannot heap enough praise on how exceptional it is from pretty much every standpoint.  "Big-boy football". Thanks for posting that, it was edumacational. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 (edited) Brady's pass protector, safety valve and 10 TDs in 9 playoff games  He's also got the physical nastiness this team is always lacking Edited October 30, 2023 by Warriorspikes51 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLCoolCy Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: Murray can block, and has caught a couple passes in stride for first downs. He isn't lost out there, and has a role. Not dynamic on the run anymore though so far. LF has to learn the playbook, and get his wind back. Don't think we will see LF this week, but who knows, a crazy year.  Which could signal the the move to a hurry-up temp style Buff played last Thursday is here to stay. The staff trusts Murray in the 2 minute drill more Cook and if they are going to deploy that more now then having a second RB who they leave in for all 3 downs could be the thinking. The offseason goal was to protect Josh adding Lenny F is inline with that and worth the no cost pickup. Any catches or improvements converting on 3 n 1's is gravy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 36 minutes ago, Bogie_Klinkhammer said: The Bills aren't going anywhere without a consistent running attack, this should help. OH, BTW, I told you so Who are you? Â Never seen you b4. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, NewEra said: Who are you? Â Never seen you b4. I am Santa Claus and I bring Running backs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, Bogie_Klinkhammer said: I am Santa Claus and I bring Running backs Why did you change your user name? Too many pills on a Saturday night? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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