Taro Nimbus Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Yay! Another "Lets bash McDermott post" I'm sure there isn't already 25 of these floating around somewhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Steptide said: Let me start by saying that I'm not a "fire McDermott" guy. I think firing Dorsey or McD right now would be the worst possible thing for the bills. Anyway... Lots of talk today regarding the hail Mary and the bills letting the bucs back in the game. I have somewhat of a hot take regarding the end of these games. Our last 3 games (giants, pats and bucs) the bills have somehow managed to let teams get in a position to win, and in the Pats case, they did win. We all know McDermott loves his timeouts at the worst times, but I think it's deeper than that. I'm starting to think McDermott calling defensive plays AND trying to manage the team under 2 mins is too much and/or too confusing. To his credit, that IS alot of responsibility. When the game tightens up at the end , maybe McD needs to either hand off defensive calls to someone else, or have someone else manage clock/timeouts. This trend is definitely new, and I feel like this could be part of the reason. The raiders, Washington and Miami game were all well in hand with 2 mins left. Or our players could just make the plays? 3 dropped Poyer INT's, Floyds missed sack, Philips facemask, the entire defense missing the bat down of the hail mary by noodle armed Mayfield. Edited October 28, 2023 by BuffaloBillsGospel2014 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 6 hours ago, Steptide said: Let me start by saying that I'm not a "fire McDermott" guy. I think firing Dorsey or McD right now would be the worst possible thing for the bills. Anyway... Lots of talk today regarding the hail Mary and the bills letting the bucs back in the game. I have somewhat of a hot take regarding the end of these games. Our last 3 games (giants, pats and bucs) the bills have somehow managed to let teams get in a position to win, and in the Pats case, they did win. We all know McDermott loves his timeouts at the worst times, but I think it's deeper than that. I'm starting to think McDermott calling defensive plays AND trying to manage the team under 2 mins is too much and/or too confusing. To his credit, that IS alot of responsibility. When the game tightens up at the end , maybe McD needs to either hand off defensive calls to someone else, or have someone else manage clock/timeouts. This trend is definitely new, and I feel like this could be part of the reason. The raiders, Washington and Miami game were all well in hand with 2 mins left. You do bring up a point that does have merit. The thing about this team is I'm not really sure when it comes to the offense how much McDermott is involved in the TOs or the play calls. On defense I will admit I think he takes too many time outs, but I do see a trend near the end of the game when the D has been on the field a long time, he is prone to take one during critical plays. That being said, I think McDermott is a smart coach, but I do question whether he always makes the right choices during critical moments. Ther are a lot of moments that even casual football fans would have acted (or not acted) better. All that said, I believe McDermott would be well advised to have an analytic and trustworthy voice in his ear to give him the other point of view that may counteract his trends. That should also be the same voice in Dorsey's ear. The shotgun play call inside the 1 was insane. It's a trend I truly wish would be addressed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 I've said this for many years.... I think they need a person like me, or you, sitting at home on their couch to have a direct line of sanity. I'm sure when you're in the heat of end of game battle you're mind is going crazy. Who better to call than a guy in Ohio (or wherever you are) sitting on his couch in his underwear. No one! I always know what they should do in those situations (and I'm actually not kidding about that), but I do wonder if they have some level-headed dude not on the sidelines giving input. Often it doesn't feel like they do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 second half replay about to start on NFL Network if you want to watch what we are talking about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Allen needs to use up all the TOs on their last drive so McD can’t call any on the defense’s last stand. Boom. 3 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 17 hours ago, Steptide said: Let me start by saying that I'm not a "fire McDermott" guy. I think firing Dorsey or McD right now would be the worst possible thing for the bills. Anyway... Lots of talk today regarding the hail Mary and the bills letting the bucs back in the game. I have somewhat of a hot take regarding the end of these games. Our last 3 games (giants, pats and bucs) the bills have somehow managed to let teams get in a position to win, and in the Pats case, they did win. We all know McDermott loves his timeouts at the worst times, but I think it's deeper than that. I'm starting to think McDermott calling defensive plays AND trying to manage the team under 2 mins is too much and/or too confusing. To his credit, that IS alot of responsibility. When the game tightens up at the end , maybe McD needs to either hand off defensive calls to someone else, or have someone else manage clock/timeouts. This trend is definitely new, and I feel like this could be part of the reason. The raiders, Washington and Miami game were all well in hand with 2 mins left. Can I have some eggs and sausage with this hot take? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 10 hours ago, BuffaloBillies said: I've said this for many years.... I think they need a person like me, or you, sitting at home on their couch to have a direct line of sanity. I'm sure when you're in the heat of end of game battle you're mind is going crazy. Who better to call than a guy in Ohio (or wherever you are) sitting on his couch in his underwear. No one! I always know what they should do in those situations (and I'm actually not kidding about that), but I do wonder if they have some level-headed dude not on the sidelines giving input. Often it doesn't feel like they do. News flash: There’s plenty of people here that think they can do it better than McDermott too. I don’t want to trust someone drunk on genesee. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yobogoya! Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 11 hours ago, BuffaloMatt said: Just rewatched the end of the game on NFL Network reply. Fourth down right before Evans TD the play clock is down to four secs and TB scrambling and trying to get to line and TO Bills. Gave TB WRs a chance to catch their breath and OC a chance to dial up play. THEN with 16 seconds left in game Bills call TO erasing a would be sack. TB gets a rest and another chance to call a play. Not sure why either had to be called as it gave TB two more TOs, rest and their first year OC time to think. TB final two drives five TOs (2 gifted to them) and 2minute warning. That's a fail for McD! Both of those timeouts were infuriating, especially the first one when an offensive pre snap penalty was all but assured to be coming there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 18 hours ago, Steptide said: True, but to this extent against bad teams? I don't think as much Good point, typically it’s better opponents who made us pay the price for mismanagement in clutch situations. However, mismanagement of those situations is a coaching weakness that shouldn’t be impacted by strength of opponent. A coaching staff needs to learn how to manage clutch situations against all opposition. I think quality teams are more likely to make coaching blunders cost their opponents, but lesser opponents can luck their way to victory when the door is left open. It seems like the laws of averages have caught up to McD. What used to cost us against superior teams, now costs us against inferior opponents as well. I don’t think the actual problem has changed much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Dopey said: News flash: There’s plenty of people here that think they can do it better than McDermott too. I don’t want to trust someone drunk on genesee. Drunk on Genessee?! That's unpossible! The buzz hasn't even arrived before reverse peristalsis kicks in! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 4 hours ago, Dopey said: News flash: There’s plenty of people here that think they can do it better than McDermott too. I don’t want to trust someone drunk on genesee. How about if I get drunk on Blue Light. Could I do it then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 19 hours ago, Bob Jones said: FIFY. 😂 One of my favorite quotes from Men in Black "A person is smart, people are dumb panicky dangerous animals". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Coot Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 19 hours ago, Bob Jones said: People fans are dumb "People are strange when you're a stranger" said Jim Morrison 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted October 28, 2023 Author Share Posted October 28, 2023 17 hours ago, Taro Nimbus said: Yay! Another "Lets bash McDermott post" I'm sure there isn't already 25 of these floating around somewhere. Did you miss the first few sentences Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTown Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 22 hours ago, BuffaloMatt said: Just rewatched the end of the game on NFL Network reply. Fourth down right before Evans TD the play clock is down to four secs and TB scrambling and trying to get to line and TO Bills. Gave TB WRs a chance to catch their breath and OC a chance to dial up play. THEN with 16 seconds left in game Bills call TO erasing a would be sack. TB gets a rest and another chance to call a play. Not sure why either had to be called as it gave TB two more TOs, rest and their first year OC time to think. TB final two drives five TOs (2 gifted to them) and 2minute warning. That's a fail for McD! McClappy has been doing this since he got here. It's beyond frustrating at this point. People here have anointed him to be a great coach and I don't get it. Yes, he changed but I feel as though he reached his ceiling. The 13 second meltdown is classic McClappy. Highly unlikely he takes us anywhere. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 On 10/27/2023 at 2:30 PM, Steptide said: Let me start by saying that I'm not a "fire McDermott" guy. I think firing Dorsey or McD right now would be the worst possible thing for the bills. Anyway... Lots of talk today regarding the hail Mary and the bills letting the bucs back in the game. I have somewhat of a hot take regarding the end of these games. Our last 3 games (giants, pats and bucs) the bills have somehow managed to let teams get in a position to win, and in the Pats case, they did win. We all know McDermott loves his timeouts at the worst times, but I think it's deeper than that. I'm starting to think McDermott calling defensive plays AND trying to manage the team under 2 mins is too much and/or too confusing. To his credit, that IS alot of responsibility. When the game tightens up at the end , maybe McD needs to either hand off defensive calls to someone else, or have someone else manage clock/timeouts. This trend is definitely new, and I feel like this could be part of the reason. The raiders, Washington and Miami game were all well in hand with 2 mins left. I think he got tired of hearing that the Bills lost all the close games and could only either blow teams out or lose so he's purposely making decisions to let teams hangs around so they can win close games. ..and look at our two theories. Yours is obviously utterly insane and mine is the very epitome of sanity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 He loves using timeouts on key defensive plays just to get a look at the offensive formation....so he can adjust....in theory it seems fine....but it infuriates me because its not like offenses dont have 3 or 4 great plays in their book at key moments. For example against the Pats we could have really benefitted from having an extra timeout. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 More he ***** up the faster we see change. I don’t think he’s leading this team to the Super Bowl anytime soon, much rather see a good offensive guy come in here and work with Josh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Let me nitpick at McDermott some more. Does this guy ever have a good time? He is wound so tight i think he will spontaneously combust sometimes. He never says anything in press conferences, or remotely funny. Some of these other coaches like Siriani, Mike McDaniel, Campbell, etc.. keep it pretty loose when the moment is right, even during games. Mcdermott is a tight ass. Solid coach but cmon Sean, have fun once in a while maybe it will rub off on the team. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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