If the Bills Don’t Make it to the AFCCG, Should McDermott Be Fired?

[Repulsif]

june 15 : If the Bills Don’t win it all, Should McDermott Be Fired?
september 15 : If the Bills Don’t make it to the SB, Should McDermott Be Fired?

october 15 : If the Bills Don’t make it to the conference championship, Should McDermott Be Fired?

november 15 : ???

 

looking at the trend, right now, it doesn't look like a wonderfull season

 

[Gregg]

2 minutes ago, QCity said:

 

The Hoodie has proven that if you give him a superstar QB he will deliver the hardware. 

 

McD has proven that if you give him a superstar QB and a top-5 roster he can get you out of the Divisional round.

 

Of course, the entire premise of McD getting canned and Belichick stepping in is ridiculous, but so was your post.

 

I agree with you that McDermott and Beane aren't getting fired. But I could see the Pats and Bill parting ways. Just throwing out "What if" scenarios. 

[Buffalo03]

15 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Of course he's safe. He always makes sure he has a ready scapegoat to play in his back pocket.  First there was Farwell, then Frazier,  now Dorsey.  The hard core McD supporters conveniently forget he hired all these guys.  He controls whether or not the OL will ever be dynamic.  He's not going to out-strategize better offensive minded coaches. He's going to hope Josh can heroically win the game.  And if you're fine with that,  let him stay forever.

In his defense, the D is much better with him running it. Part of why we lost last season was the ridiculous defense we ran last season in that Bengals playoff game. Guys playing 10 yards off WR all game with no rushing the passer at all. We just let them hit the underneath stuff all game

[nucci]

If Pegula and not Beane is the only one that can fire McDermott then it won't happen. If the GM can replace the coach like most teams do it , then yes  it's possible

[DapperCam]

Losing in the divisional isn’t a fireable offense in my opinion. NFL has way too much luck involved considering it is single elimination.

[Virgil]

48 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

Assuming he is available after this season.

 

 

 

I just threw up in my mouth.  However, even if he were available and not a total piece of ***** person, he's defensive minded.  If they got rid of McD, it would be for someone with an offensive mind.

[thenorthremembers]

11 minutes ago, QCity said:

 

The Hoodie has proven that if you give him a superstar QB he will deliver the hardware. 

 

McD has proven that if you give him a superstar QB and a top-5 roster he can get you out of the Divisional round.

 

Of course, the entire premise of McD getting canned and Belichick stepping in is ridiculous, but so was your post.

Tom Brady isn't just a superstar QB.  He is literally the best player to ever lace up cleats.  Maybe the greatest champion of all time.

 

Belichick had other pro bowl level QBs in his time.   Kosar and Bledsoe were both pro bowl talents and he did didly crap with them.

 

 

[BarleyNY]

1 hour ago, boater said:

These tired and worn out "Fire McD.. wasting Allen's best years" crusades never address the next more important question: And replace him with who? I especially love the arrogant statements along the lines of "Who wouldn't want to work with Josh Allen"

 

Name the new coach and why you think:

• he would be a step up from McD
• he will be available
• he'd be interested in the Bills
• his family would be willing to move to WNY (we've lost a couple there)
• he would work well with Beane
• Pegs would be willing to eat the remaining 4 years of McD's contract

I caution against naming any college coaches. Most want nothing to do with the NFL. The ones who try are often wash-outs.

 

Few points:

- There are no guarantees on any coach, but whether the next one is better than McD or not has nothing to do with whether or not he is good enough. That’s reality. 

- If they aren’t already an NFL HC, then they’re available. 

- If they aren’t already an NFL HC, then they’re interested with few exceptions (ie Saban). The Bills have an elite QB which would put them at the very top of the list for any coach. 

- your comment about WNY is ridiculous (and I’ve being kind). no one is going to pass up an NFL head coaching job because they don’t like the geographical area. 

- Beane and McD are a package deal. They will stay or go together. 

- The point about McD and Beane’s contracts will impact how it will play out. It’s why I don’t think it will happen as quickly as this off-season. However, the question isn’t whether or not it happens m, it’s whether or not it SHOULD happen. So it’s immaterial to the question at hand. Also this doesn’t impact the cap and I don’t care about the cost to the Pegulas personally.

- Your comment about most college coaches not wanting to coach in the NFL is ridiculous. The vast majority would jump at the chance – and paycheck - to do so.

 

The only answer that matters in this entire discussion is whether or not McDermott and Beane can be counted on to bring a Championship to Buffalo. Based on their past performance, especially in the playoffs, explain to me why you think they will do that. 

[LABILLBACKER]

7 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

In his defense, the D is much better with him running it. Part of why we lost last season was the ridiculous defense we ran last season in that Bengals playoff game. Guys playing 10 yards off WR all game with no rushing the passer at all. We just let them hit the underneath stuff all game

Absolutely,  the defense is running better and more balanced & aggressive under Sean.  Losing Tre, Matt and DQ just flat out sucks. Still not sure what version of Von we'll get later in the year.

[Gregg]

1 minute ago, thenorthremembers said:

Tom Brady isn't just a superstar QB.  He is literally the best player to ever lace up cleats.  Maybe the greatest champion of all time.

 

Belichick had other pro bowl level QBs in his time.   Kosar and Bledsoe were both pro bowl talents and he did didly crap with them.

 

 

 

Allen is closer to Brady than Kosar and Bledsoe. 

[thenorthremembers]

23 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

I think Bill wins a Super Bowl with Josh. I am not sure Sean will. Like I said 9 Super Bowl appearances and 6 championships. What has Sean won. He can't even defend a 3-point lead with 13 seconds left and the Chiefs starting on their own 25.

Is Josh Allen as good as Tom Brady?  If not, then Belichick hasn't shown any evidence that he'd be able to win a championship let alone a playoff game with Allen.  

[Gregg]

Just now, thenorthremembers said:

Is Josh Allen as good as Tom Brady?  If not, then Belichick hasn't shown any evidence that he'd be able to win a championship let alone a playoff game with Allen.  

 

Brady is the GOAT, but Allen is up there. I do think he would win a Super Bowl with Josh. 

[boyst]

i cannot stand McDermott but on it's face i cannot say he deserves to be fired for simply not getting to the AFCC. there are a few cases where he could make it barring a catastrophic issue. if we played a helluva game, organized and focused and lost in the 2nd round in a high scoring game i would be very disappointed in him but not want to lynch him solely on that.

 

if we lost and had no defensive cohesion and coordination - like has been an issue in the past - then yes.

 

of note: i wanted him shitcanned after 13 seconds for having absolutely no organization on the team when it came to crunch time. since then he has only disappointed us in the playoffs. beating an inferior Pats team with an emotional high then getting lucky against the Ravens and squeaking by against a backup Dolphins QB are bull####.

[May Day 10]

I don't think McDermott stands a chance to be fired, barring some sort of tire fire lockerroom issues that result in the team missing the playoffs, or maybe even limping in as the 7th seed and getting beat handily in the WC round.

 

Do I think he 'should' be fired if they dont make the AFCG?  I think it depends on how that looks and the circumstances around it, and what happens in the AFC Divisional Round.  What deficiencies of the team prevented them from moving forward, etc.

 

 

I think they need to be very careful in removing and replacing McDermott.  I do think his culture thing is real and the players have respect and like playing for him, which in a lot of ways offsets the things that make Buffalo unappealing to NFL players (Allen has a hand in that too).  Just look at the contrast of that fat man Brian Daboll reaming out his players and throwing them in front of the bus vs how McDermott handles things.  

 

[Chaos]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

There is no world in which McDermott goes and Beane stays. 

Why?

[Success]

Some fans don't understand how good McD is.

 

I don't think he's great.  But I'd also put about 2 coaches in the league in the "great" category right now.  If anyone watches other games on Sundays, it's pretty bleak out there. There is a LOT of bad coaching in the league..

 

And just to echo sentiments already expressed - who do you replace him with?  If it's someone unproven - and the vast majority of candidates will fit that description - you could really take a left turn, and then you would really be wasting years while we have Allen.

[pocoboy]

I voted no. My issue sits similarly to what the Eichel monstrosity became...if you fire McDermott, are you going to have Allen playing any role in the replacement hire? We've already experienced a lot of unease with how the offense has progressed with his favored OC pick.

 

If this season's result is due to the offense resembling the last two weeks and the Bengal Div Round game, you must a) hire a competent Offensive Coordinator to replace Dorsey, and b) hire a Defensive Coordinator to take that off McDermott's plate. If he isn't keen on any of that, then maybe it would be time for him to go too. But he's gotta feel like making the playoffs isn't enough anymore, and if so he'd be the first to want to look at how to fix the ills.

[27yanks]

Not sure a change in coaching is needed, change in team building philosophy may be what's required. Sustained success is great for ticket numbers, expense sheets, and making "Lire". Buffalo needs a SB, I say go for it. Stop ***** footing around and get the sense of urgency mind set in high gear.

[nedboy7]

1 hour ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

 

Tell me you've watched no broncos games without telling me you've watched no broncos games

 

 

I can't watch that garbage.  Sean Payton looks like he is ready for assisted living. 

I don't get discussing replacing McD on week 6.  So this is as serious as I am willing to get. 

Edited October 18, 2023 by nedboy7

[May Day 10]

I also think if they had a #2/1A WR, everything would be different and the Bills would be 6-0 and cruising.  This has been a CLEAR need since mid-season last year when Davis didn't take a step forward.