If the Bills Don’t Make it to the AFCCG, Should McDermott Be Fired?

[The Wiz]

8 hours ago, Bills!Win! said:

He’s the new Marvin Lewis. Status Quo

Marvin Lewis was the HC for Cincy for 16 years, made the playoffs 7 times and was 0-7 in all his playoff appearances.

 

I think you're a little off with this one.

[nedboy7]

Yes. For Sean Payton. 

Disclaimer.... this is not a serious post as I do not consider the question seriously. 

Edited October 18, 2023 by nedboy7

[CincyBillsFan]

4 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

Marvin Lewis was the HC for Cincy for 16 years, made the playoffs 7 times and was 0-7 in all his playoff appearances.

 

I think you're a little off with this one.

Agree 100%.  There is NO comparison between the playoff success of McD versus Lewis.

 

As an aside my answer to the threads question is NO.  What becomes dicey IMO is if Allen remains healthy and the Bills miss the playoffs then a conversation will need to be had.

 

 

Edited October 18, 2023 by CincyBillsFan

[thenorthremembers]

Everyone here knows its incredibly hard to win a Super Bowl right?  11 Coaches have won a Super Bowl in the last 20 years in the NFL.  So you guys want to fire the best coach in Bills history if the team doesnt get to the AFC Championship Game?

 

Should the Ravens fire John Harbaugh?  Sure he won a Superbowl, but that was 2012.   He's missed the playoffs 6 of 10 years since, and hasnt made it past the divisional round in 10 years.     Is anyone going to argue John Harbaugh is a bad football coach?

 

Bottom line is you have to be in the playoffs to win championships and our current head coach has missed the playoffs 1 time in 6 years.   If McDermott were to be fired he'd have another head coaching job this offseason.

 

For the people calling Mcdemott Marvin Lewis, stop, you're making yourself look like a fool.   Lewis has a .511 career winning percentage, and never won a playoff game.     That dude got 16 years, and you guys are trying to fire McDermott, a guy with the best winning percentage in Bills history, and 4 playoff wins in 6 years, because you dont like that he claps a lot or because Daboll is more fun. 

 

Top ten defense in 4 of 7 years.   Top ten offense in 4 of 7 years.   Brought your team a franchise QB.  Wins constantly.      Stop with the fire McDermott nonsense.    You dont fire a proven winner for an up and coming coordinator. 

 

I suspect you guys all want someone more like Kyle Shanahan?   The guy who has lost more games than McDermott?  The offensive genius who has made it one round further than McDermott and still lost?  The guy who who has missed the playoffs 3 of 6 years?   Guess what, Kyle Shanhan was never coming to Buffalo.  Do you know why?  Because before Mcdermott and Beane the Bills were a trash franchise who had to hire guys like Dick Jauron and Chan Gailey because real coaches didnt want to come here.  

 

Please for the love of God, put a little respect on McDermott's name instead of constantly complaining.   He brought this franchise back to legitimacy.  The people complaining about McDermott are the type of guys who marry a supermodel and then complain about her one leg being longer than the other.  Please stop.

[Punching Bag]

1 hour ago, Gregg said:

If the Pats part ways with Bill Belichick, then I would kick McDermott to the curb in a NY minute if I were Terry Pegula. The results speak for themselves when Bill has had an elite level QB and a solid roster to work with. I soured on McDermott after 13 seconds. That was a fire able offense. Hate the guy all you want but he knows how to win in the playoffs and win Super Bowls. Plus, I think Bill would love to win a Super Bowl with another team besides NE. Just like Brady did.

 

He also had Ernie Adams who retired when GOAT Cheater left with was responsible for spying, diagnosing rule boundaries and other cheats.

[GunnerBill]

20 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

At the end of the day, it's Terry's call. If he wants them back, they will be back. If he wants to clean house, then they are both gone. If he wants to keep one and fire the other than that will happen. 

 

If course it is Terry's call. But I am telling you it won't happen. It is both of them or none of them. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

4 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

Yes. For Sean Payton. 

 

Tell me you've watched no broncos games without telling me you've watched no broncos games

 

[Gregg]

1 minute ago, Limeaid said:

 

He also had Ernie Adams who retired when GOAT Cheater left with was responsible for spying, diagnosing rule boundaries and other cheats.

 

I wouldn't want Bill the GM. Let Beane run the draft. Give me the coach who went to 9 Super Bowls with a 6-3 record in those games. Bill with this team and QB would get us past the Chiefs, Bengals. You can't argue with the results he has gotten when he had a great QB and a solid team.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

4 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

Everyone here knows its incredibly hard to win a Super Bowl right?  11 Coaches have won a Super Bowl in the last 20 years in the NFL.  So you guys want to fire the best coach in Bills history if the team doesnt get to the AFC Championship Game?

 

Should the Ravens fire John Harbaugh?  Sure he won a Superbowl, but that was 2012.   He's missed the playoffs 6 of 10 years since, and hasnt made it past the divisional round in 10 years.     Is anyone going to argue John Harbaugh is a bad football coach?

 

Bottom line is you have to be in the playoffs to win championships and our current head coach has missed the playoffs 1 time in 6 years.   If McDermott were to be fired he'd have another head coaching job this offseason.

 

For the people calling Mcdemott Marvin Lewis, stop, you're making yourself look like a fool.   Lewis has a .511 career winning percentage, and never won a playoff game.     That dude got 16 years, and you guys are trying to fire McDermott, a guy with the best winning percentage in Bills history, and 4 playoff wins in 6 years, because you dont like that he claps a lot or because Daboll is more fun. 

 

Top ten defense in 4 of 7 years.   Top ten offense in 4 of 7 years.   Brought your team a franchise QB.  Wins constantly.      Stop with the fire McDermott nonsense.    You dont fire a proven winner for an up and coming coordinator. 

 

I suspect you guys all want someone more like Kyle Shanahan?   The guy who has lost more games than McDermott?  The offensive genius who has made it one round further than McDermott and still lost?  The guy who who has missed the playoffs 3 of 6 years?   Guess what, Kyle Shanhan was never coming to Buffalo.  Do you know why?  Because before Mcdermott and Beane the Bills were a trash franchise who had to hire guys like Dick Jauron and Chan Gailey because real coaches didnt want to come here.  

 

Please for the love of God, put a little respect on McDermott's name instead of constantly complaining.   He brought this franchise back to legitimacy.  The people complaining about McDermott are the type of guys who marry a supermodel and then complain about her one leg being longer than the other.  Please stop.

 

Bills fans are, on the aggregate, not very bright.

 

[T master]

9 hours ago, Gugny said:

If the Bills Don’t Make it to the AFCCG, Should McDermott Be Fired?

 

I’m not in the Super Bowl or Bust crowd, but I am frustrated with what feels like Josh Allen’s prime years being wasted. 
 

The question posed is assuming Allen starts/plays every game this season. 
 

My vote is yes. 

 

Stability is something that is a great thing to have on a NFL team which is something the Bills didn't have for 17 + years & this guy has been a winner ever since he's got here & all the Fire  McD posts are nuts . I'd rather have a winner that's in the hunt every year than what the Bills were prior to his arrival !

 

Question - So who would you replace him with ?

 

All those yah hoo's that wanted Sean Payton to come in because he was this great Super Bowl winning coach but seeing how that's going in Denver that would be just a great thing now wouldn't it ? 

 

There may need to be some tweaks to the coaching roster but i don't believe McD is the one that needs changing if Dorsey doesn't get it figured out then maybe he is the one that needs to go & i think he will get it figured out & win while he's doing it ...

 

Besides the last time they brought in what was thought to be a great hire in Sexy Rexy how did that go ? It's a crap shoot you never know from a coaches past how good or bad they will be .

[Low Positive]

7 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

Everyone here knows its incredibly hard to win a Super Bowl right?  11 Coaches have won a Super Bowl in the last 20 years in the NFL.  So you guys want to fire the best coach in Bills history if the team doesnt get to the AFC Championship Game?

 

Should the Ravens fire John Harbaugh?  Sure he won a Superbowl, but that was 2012.   He's missed the playoffs 6 of 10 years since, and hasnt made it past the divisional round in 10 years.     Is anyone going to argue John Harbaugh is a bad football coach?

 

Bottom line is you have to be in the playoffs to win championships and our current head coach has missed the playoffs 1 time in 6 years.   If McDermott were to be fired he'd have another head coaching job this offseason.

 

For the people calling Mcdemott Marvin Lewis, stop, you're making yourself look like a fool.   Lewis has a .511 career winning percentage, and never won a playoff game.     That dude got 16 years, and you guys are trying to fire McDermott, a guy with the best winning percentage in Bills history, and 4 playoff wins in 6 years, because you dont like that he claps a lot or because Daboll is more fun. 

 

Top ten defense in 4 of 7 years.   Top ten offense in 4 of 7 years.   Brought your team a franchise QB.  Wins constantly.      Stop with the fire McDermott nonsense.    You dont fire a proven winner for an up and coming coordinator. 

 

I suspect you guys all want someone more like Kyle Shanahan?   The guy who has lost more games than McDermott?  The offensive genius who has made it one round further than McDermott and still lost?  The guy who who has missed the playoffs 3 of 6 years?   Guess what, Kyle Shanhan was never coming to Buffalo.  Do you know why?  Because before Mcdermott and Beane the Bills were a trash franchise who had to hire guys like Dick Jauron and Chan Gailey because real coaches didnt want to come here.  

 

Please for the love of God, put a little respect on McDermott's name instead of constantly complaining.   He brought this franchise back to legitimacy.  The people complaining about McDermott are the type of guys who marry a supermodel and then complain about her one leg being longer than the other.  Please stop.

But he claps his hands! 

[Saint Doug]

I would give him an extra year. A QB’s window is pretty large. It’s his surrounding players that mostly determine the window. He should be on the hot seat next season. 

[thenorthremembers]

11 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

I wouldn't want Bill the GM. Let Beane run the draft. Give me the coach who went to 9 Super Bowls with a 6-3 record in those games. Bill with this team and QB would get us past the Chiefs, Bengals. You can't argue with the results he has gotten when he had a great QB and a solid team.

Bill Belichick has 1 playoff win in 10 years without Brady.  He was on his way to being fired in New England before Bledsoe went down and Brady took over.

 

He's 85-90 without Brady.  His winning percentage is .485 without Brady.   Thats worse than Jack Del Rio, Wayne Fontes, Mike Tice, and Dave Wannstedt.    He's made the playoffs 2 of 10 years without Brady.

 

If you really want to give up a 49 year old head coach for a guy who will be 72 next year, and hasnt shown he is half the coach McDermott is without Tom Brady, I'd say you were the type to make irrational decisions based on emotions alone.

 

Tom Coughlin won 2 Superbowls.  He's only 77 maybe we can bring him back?     Joe Gibbs has 3 Superbowls, only 82, lets see what he is up to.   If all else fails, we could just Weekend at Bernie's Bill Walsh.  I suspect just his presence can will the Bills to the Superbowl.

Edited October 18, 2023 by thenorthremembers

[ddaryl]

He is doing a a great job with the defense. I think McDermott might have to make the decision to find an OC who can design an offense more suited for Josh. Dorseys X's and O's aren't really working for Josh

[Buffalo03]

No. Just stop. The only way McDermott is on the hot seat after this season is if he has a one and done wild card loss this season. The only way I see him possibly being fired is if we miss the playoffs entirely and even then, I still think he gets another season

21 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

Marvin Lewis was the HC for Cincy for 16 years, made the playoffs 7 times and was 0-7 in all his playoff appearances.

 

I think you're a little off with this one.

Yep. That's how ignorant people are. They don't even research to see that McDermott has already done more than Marvin Lewis had ever done in his HC career in less than half the time 

[LABILLBACKER]

3 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

We'd have to lose 11 straight.  LOL.  I agree though that he's way safer than most fans here would prefer.

Of course he's safe. He always makes sure he has a ready scapegoat to play in his back pocket.  First there was Farwell, then Frazier,  now Dorsey.  The hard core McD supporters conveniently forget he hired all these guys.  He controls whether or not the OL will ever be dynamic.  He's not going to out-strategize better offensive minded coaches. He's going to hope Josh can heroically win the game.  And if you're fine with that,  let him stay forever.

[Gregg]

5 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

Bill Belichick has 1 playoff win in 10 years without Brady.  He was on his way to being fired in New England before Bledsoe went down and Brady took over.

 

He's 85-90 without Brady.  His winning percentage is .485 without Brady.   Thats worse than Jack Del Rio, Wayne Fontes, Mike Tice, and Dave Wannstedt.    He's made the playoffs 2 of 10 years without Brady.

 

If you really want to give up a 49 year old head coach for a guy who will be 72 next year, and hasnt shown he is half the coach McDermott is without Tom Brady, I'd say you were the type to make irrational decisions based on emotions alone.

 

I think Bill wins a Super Bowl with Josh. I am not sure Sean will. Like I said 9 Super Bowl appearances and 6 championships. What has Sean won. He can't even defend a 3-point lead with 13 seconds left and the Chiefs starting on their own 25.

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

This question is too black or white, so I went with No.

 

If we make the divisional round and lose a well played/coached game to the Chiefs there's no way I'd want McD fired. 

 

I think there's 3 basic scenarios I'd want to see McD fired, and all of these are only if Josh is healthy. 

 

1) We miss the playoffs entirely

2) Lose in the 1st round to a bad team

3) Coaching flop ala 13 seconds 

 

So in short, it doesn't matter which round we make it to. It matters how the team looks. 

[QCity]

15 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

Bill Belichick has 1 playoff win in 10 years without Brady.  He was on his way to being fired in New England before Bledsoe went down and Brady took over.

 

He's 85-90 without Brady.  His winning percentage is .485 without Brady.   Thats worse than Jack Del Rio, Wayne Fontes, Mike Tice, and Dave Wannstedt.    He's made the playoffs 2 of 10 years without Brady.

 

If you really want to give up a 49 year old head coach for a guy who will be 72 next year, and hasnt shown he is half the coach McDermott is without Tom Brady, I'd say you were the type to make irrational decisions based on emotions alone.

 

Tom Coughlin won 2 Superbowls.  He's only 77 maybe we can bring him back?     Joe Gibbs has 3 Superbowls, only 82, lets see what he is up to.   If all else fails, we could just Weekend at Bernie's Bill Walsh.  I suspect just his presence can will the Bills to the Superbowl.

 

The Hoodie has proven that if you give him a superstar QB he will deliver the hardware. 

 

McD has proven that if you give him a superstar QB and a top-5 roster he can get you out of the Divisional round.

 

Of course, the entire premise of McD getting canned and Belichick stepping in is ridiculous, but so was your post.

[PBF81]

10 hours ago, Gugny said:

If the Bills Don’t Make it to the AFCCG, Should McDermott Be Fired?

 

I’m not in the Super Bowl or Bust crowd, but I am frustrated with what feels like Josh Allen’s prime years being wasted. 

 

The question should be, ...

 

Is McD getting the most from this team/roster that's possible, particularly in the playoffs?