thenorthremembers Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 He isn't better than Gabe Davis right now so essentially he'd be the 3rd wideout here. He is also in a contract year. If he can be had for a conditional 6th or a 7th sure give it a whirl, otherwise let someone try the 8 or 9 game experiment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: He isn't better than Gabe Davis right now so essentially he'd be the 3rd wideout here. He is also in a contract year. If he can be had for a conditional 6th or a 7th sure give it a whirl, otherwise let someone try the 8 or 9 game experiment. I was coming in here just to say: someone convince me he is better than Gabe Davis. Ever since he's been drafted he has been very meh. Sure he got up to 1k last year but it wasn't impressive, the long plays are typically fluky plays and he has drop issues too (and a lot of injuries) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsUberAlles Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 23 minutes ago, FireChans said: Jags traded Ramsey for 2 1sts and a 4th like 3 years ago bro. Why would the Bills trade for an island corner when they don't use their corners like that? Makes no sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Just now, BillsUberAlles said: Why would the Bills trade for an island corner when they don't use their corners like that? Makes no sense. We used Tre like that. We gave a lot of responsibility to Tre so we could shift our help to the other side. Would be hard to do midseason, but Tre wasn’t schemed with safety help to the extent guys like Walllace were. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 14 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: https://denversports.com/2108345/report-broncos-indeed-open-for-business-on-jeudy-sutton-more/ One day after Denver Broncos head coach Sean Payton said the team isn’t looking to make any more trades, an ESPN report is disputing that. Dan Graziano wrote on Wednesday that “it feels pretty obvious from talking to teams around the league the 1-4 Broncos are open for business.” That’s a direct contradiction to Payton, who said on Tuesday that Denver is “not looking to do business with any of our players.” Payton’s answer felt like a smokescreen, and based on what Graziano is reporting, it indeed could’ve been. Obviously, if the Broncos somehow stun the Chiefs on Thursday night, things could change. But that feels unlikely, and at 1-5, Denver would be full-on sellers at the Halloween trade deadline. Graziano also notes the Broncos are “not interested in parting with star cornerback Pat Surtain II,” because the team views him as a “building block” for the future. Finally, he states the obvious that no one is trading for QB Russell Wilson’s lucrative contract. It makes sense on Surtain. He’s only in this third year and still on a rookie deal through next season, while the Broncos will also pick up his fifth-year option eventually. But Graziano mentions “prominent names” could also come up in trade speculation. He doesn’t get specific, but it’s not hard to figure it out. In addition to Sutton and Jeudy, guys like Justin Simmons, Garett Bolles and Frank Clark could be on the move. This is probably the latest of many reports about what Denver could do between now and Oct. 31, but it sounds like Jeudy and Sutton’s days in orange and blue may be numbered. Stay tuned. 1.) Would you want the Bills to acquire him? 2.) What would be your offer to Denver? No i wouldn't they are having a hard enough time with the weapons they already have & where is the money for him going to come from ? I would if possible get another LB to help with Millano's injury OH wait they already have . The WR room is one of the strongest on the team why is every one always trying to bring in more WR's when they aren't using what they have ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 34 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: He isn't better than Gabe Davis right now so essentially he'd be the 3rd wideout here. He is also in a contract year. If he can be had for a conditional 6th or a 7th sure give it a whirl, otherwise let someone try the 8 or 9 game experiment. Josh is missing a secondary option to Diggs that can be a consistent target like Beasley was. I still have hopes for Kincaid but he still is a rookie and might take a year or two to develop. That or maybe we draft someone next year as much as I respect Gabe Davis game I don't think we can re-sign him and not sure he going to ever be a move the chains type that will catch 4-7 balls a game that think we need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 51 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: He isn't better than Gabe Davis right now so essentially he'd be the 3rd wideout here. He is also in a contract year. If he can be had for a conditional 6th or a 7th sure give it a whirl, otherwise let someone try the 8 or 9 game experiment. 38 minutes ago, dma0034 said: I was coming in here just to say: someone convince me he is better than Gabe Davis. Ever since he's been drafted he has been very meh. Sure he got up to 1k last year but it wasn't impressive, the long plays are typically fluky plays and he has drop issues too (and a lot of injuries) I just posted that I didn’t think it was worth shaking things up, but I am immediately reconsidering that stance. Jeudy is not in a contract year, but Davis is. Jeudy’s 5th year option was picked up so he’s under contract thru 2024. But whomever trades for him would be on the hook for it at $13M. Other than having worked with Josh Allen for three and a half years, Jeudy is superior to Gabe Davis in pretty much every way. The other concern is his attitude, but that might be situation dependent (and who could blame him). Also it’s not like we didn’t acquire Diggs that way. Jeudy is faster than Davis. He runs crisper routes and is much more agile. Note on that last one - Jeudy has average agility, but Davis is absolutely awful in that respect. His 20 cone time is literally in the bottom 1% of WRs ever tested - and it shows on the field when he tries to uncover quickly. He’s been atrocious at that. Jeudy can also play from the slot or on the outside. Davis is only suited to the outside. As I mentioned, bringing in Jeudy means Davis has to go immediately. Denver would be dumping a disgruntled player that’ll owe 13 million to next year so I doubt the trade compensation would be much. Say it’s Davis and our 3rd (or comp 3rd) for their 4th (or Phins 4th). We’d be adding talent by bringing in a player that could be here long term at the expense of a limited player that won’t be here next season. This offense needs more skill added so I take the chance as long as my assumptions about compensation are close. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Nahhh because he would need to be resigned. I feel like you can get a similar talent for less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmonkillebrew Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Jeudy would bring a speed element we really don't have. I'm also not sure Gabe has earned a lucrative new contract. I think it would make sense to bring him in for a 4th, that's about it. I'd also kick the tires on Hunter Renfrow. Harty and Shakhir don't have that reliable slot maven ability. Renfrow does, or did.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 1 minute ago, harmonkillebrew said: Jeudy would bring a speed element we really don't have. I'm also not sure Gabe has earned a lucrative new contract. I think it would make sense to bring him in for a 4th, that's about it. I'd also kick the tires on Hunter Renfrow. Harty and Shakhir don't have that reliable slot maven ability. Renfrow does, or did.... OT Isn't it strange that here is a MLB outfielder named Hunter Renfroe and an NFL WR named Hunter Renfrow? It's not like that's a common name. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 15 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said: I’d give a 5th for Juedy. Don’t overpay for someone else’s unfulfilled potential. True but you aren’t going to get him for that. There are definitely teams that believe he has been held back by his qbs. He was considered a future star when he came out. I would definitely take JJ in a second. But I always felt this offense needs a burner. We lack big time speed on this offense and it’s a waste of Allen’s arm. 8 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: OT Isn't it strange that here is a MLB outfielder named Hunter Renfroe and an NFL WR named Hunter Renfrow? It's not like that's a common name. There was also a Tyler Ennis (Syracuse basketball) and a Tyler ennis on the Sabres. And they were both Canadian. 13 minutes ago, harmonkillebrew said: Jeudy would bring a speed element we really don't have. I'm also not sure Gabe has earned a lucrative new contract. I think it would make sense to bring him in for a 4th, that's about it. I'd also kick the tires on Hunter Renfrow. Harty and Shakhir don't have that reliable slot maven ability. Renfrow does, or did.... I don’t think Jeudy is an elite sport guy. I think I saw he is a 4.46 guy. I believe he is considered an elite route runner when he was coming out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 It probably is truth serum that I think that even if the Bills traded for Jeudy, Dorsey wouldn't utilize him and we'd hear excuses about how he was still learning the system two months after the trade. He does no good to us as the #3 WR because this offense is centered around Diggs, and barely has a consistent role for Davis. I don't think he's been as advertised, but hard to know his ceiling with the Broncos QB play the past few seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 15 hours ago, nedboy7 said: We are gonna need our draft picks it looks like. Not sure what he adds. can't ever have enough DE's and DT's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Since he’s under contract through 2024 I’d go a 3rd for him as insulation for Gabe since you can always trade back and reacquire more picks with the bills having 10. Jeudy drops the occasional pass but is a very dynamic player in the open field we really haven’t had a guy like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 I don't think weapons are the issue at all, would like to see more Harty. I mean we'd have to pay him or Davis in the off season anyway. I'd prefer Davis because Jeudy always injured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospector Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) Justin Simmons is the only one I would seriously consider... but the money may make it not feasable. Edited October 12, 2023 by Prospector Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tomcat Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 13 hours ago, Billl said: Sutton could be had for a 5th. He’s garbage. I was thinking one of those 2030 6th / 7th round swap type of deal....maybe? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmonkillebrew Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 42 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: True but you aren’t going to get him for that. There are definitely teams that believe he has been held back by his qbs. He was considered a future star when he came out. I would definitely take JJ in a second. But I always felt this offense needs a burner. We lack big time speed on this offense and it’s a waste of Allen’s arm. There was also a Tyler Ennis (Syracuse basketball) and a Tyler ennis on the Sabres. And they were both Canadian. I don’t think Jeudy is an elite sport guy. I think I saw he is a 4.46 guy. I believe he is considered an elite route runner when he was coming out. You're right. He ran 4.45 at the combine. He's actually a Diggs clone, but w/o the proven production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 3 hours ago, BillsUberAlles said: Is that the trade you just did in Madden? Who the hell in their right mind is trading 2 firsts and a second for a CB? Especially in a D that minimizes a players individual value in favor of team concepts. You need a serious lesson on how to value positions in various schemes. You’re not. You’re getting rid of a contract on a potentially injured star CB along with 2 Firsts; you still retain the second round pick. I said it was a swap of seconds… in case you didn’t read. And that frankly is a viable trade not a “video game trade” like you imply... Look what Jalen Ramsey was acquired for and that was on a massive contract. You’re getting a player still on his rookie deal… McCaffrey fetched a decent amount as have other players. Rodgers. Wilson. Watson. That trio fetched a haul of 1st rounders. Now sure, they are QB’s but they each had some serious question marks and a decline of play… Just to make it clear, I don’t want or think this will happen but all I see on this forum is talks of him being a CB to trade for. Personally, I’d try and strike a trade for Byron Murphy if indeed the need is felt for that position, which it looks like by them bringing in Norman (🤮). Aside from Josh, possibly Edmunds and Groot, there hasn’t been a great return on any of the first rounders. What is giving up those picks for a position of need to get a guy who has demonstrated he is clearly top 5 at that position right now on 2 more cost effective/team friendly years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) Plays his best football on Thursdays Edited October 12, 2023 by stuvian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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