Starr Almighty Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 We can always use a guard. Let's beat the Dhop thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuba guy Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 You going to pay him with houses money 💰 🤑 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Time to remove the "C" from uniform. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted July 20, 2023 Author Share Posted July 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, scuba guy said: You going to pay him with houses money 💰 🤑 DHops money lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 19 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said: We can always use a guard. Let's beat the Dhop thread looks like he restructured and added voidable years so it required agent/player and team renegotiation. That was the time to address his perceived salary underpaid issue. Or he should have not agreed to the restructure. His agent blew it. He gets paid plenty for his output. Not NFL fault as players become FA and reset market higher. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, scuba guy said: You going to pay him with houses money 💰 🤑 I heard house lost his wallet, Edited July 21, 2023 by Don Otreply 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, cba fan said: looks like he restructured and added voidable years so it required agent/player and team renegotiation. That was the time to address his perceived salary underpaid issue. Or he should have not agreed to the restructure. His agent blew it. He gets paid plenty for his output. Not NFL fault as players become FA and reset market higher. No, plenty of times restructures don't need agent or player input of any kind. It's already in the contract. And that's what happened this year in Martin's case. The Cowboys just pulled the trigger on that part of his contract. He didn't have any choice or input this year. The Cowboys just "executed clauses in two of their biggest contracts." https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/lists/cowboys-prescott-martin-restructure-2023/ Doing that, executing that clause, helps the team's cap situation, but it also gives Martin a bit more leverage, as the money is already in his bank account now. He does get paid plenty for his output by my standards and most standards. Not by NFL elite guard standards, though. The Boys have to live with all of the consequences of their decisions. Having said that, Martin also has to live with all the consequences of his. He has every right to complain and to hold out if that's what he wants. Makes sense to me to rattle your saber in this kind of situation. Edited July 21, 2023 by Thurman#1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 3 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: No, plenty of times restructures don't need agent or player input of any kind. It's already in the contract. And that's what happened this year in Martin's case. The Cowboys just pulled the trigger on that part of his contract. He didn't have any choice or input this year. The Cowboys just "executed clauses in two of their biggest contracts." https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/lists/cowboys-prescott-martin-restructure-2023/ Doing that, executing that clause, helps the team's cap situation, but it also gives Martin a bit more leverage, as the money is already in his bank account now. He does get paid plenty for his output by my standards and most standards. Not by NFL elite guard standards, though. The Boys have to live with all of the consequences of their decisions. Having said that, Martin also has to live with all the consequences of his. He has every right to complain and to hold out if that's what he wants. Makes sense to me to rattle your saber in this kind of situation. This ends with the Cowboys doing something very minor to just make Martin happy and "show him some love" then address it longer term in the offseason. But Martin is also going to 33 this season and the Cowboys have Martin on a great deal next season. Tricky situation but I think Martin knows this is his last chance to get a big money deal and he has to try and take advantage of it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 He’ll hold in, Jerrah will bloviate, and then they’ll give him something small to save face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 After the FA additions and the Draft, I’m more comfortable with G than I am at RT. The #2 WR and RT are the weakest links on the team IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Interior O-lineman under contract looking to make a power move against Jerry in his 10th season. good luck bro! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shemp Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 The Jets appear to have a logjam on the OL. Often-injured (until now) Mekhi Becton, a real specimen, has been described as "disgruntled" because the Jets put him at RT, exposing his right leg that keeps getting hurt, where his natural position is LT. There are others in this fight too, which should be watched by the Bills for an opportunity for upgrades. https://nypost.com/2023/07/20/mekhi-becton-battling-for-spot-on-jets-offensive-line-as-competitions-begin/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills!Win! Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Git er done Russ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 33 minutes ago, Shemp said: The Jets appear to have a logjam on the OL. Often-injured (until now) Mekhi Becton, a real specimen, has been described as "disgruntled" because the Jets put him at RT, exposing his right leg that keeps getting hurt, where his natural position is LT. There are others in this fight too, which should be watched by the Bills for an opportunity for upgrades. https://nypost.com/2023/07/20/mekhi-becton-battling-for-spot-on-jets-offensive-line-as-competitions-begin/ The Jets moved him to RT because he wasn't better than George Fant at LT. He's struggled with weight (but he's in "the best shape of his life" now) and injury. His only option on this line would be RT as the Bills aren't likely to be moving Dawkins...which according to this report "exposes his right leg" to injury. Not sure I'd sign a disgruntled, oft injured OT that struggles with weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Taking a page out of the old incognito playbbook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 13 hours ago, Don Otreply said: I heard house lost his wallet, Why doesn't House have any money? Or is he just cheap? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 12 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: No, plenty of times restructures don't need agent or player input of any kind. It's already in the contract. And that's what happened this year in Martin's case. The Cowboys just pulled the trigger on that part of his contract. He didn't have any choice or input this year. The Cowboys just "executed clauses in two of their biggest contracts." https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/lists/cowboys-prescott-martin-restructure-2023/ Doing that, executing that clause, helps the team's cap situation, but it also gives Martin a bit more leverage, as the money is already in his bank account now. He does get paid plenty for his output by my standards and most standards. Not by NFL elite guard standards, though. The Boys have to live with all of the consequences of their decisions. Having said that, Martin also has to live with all the consequences of his. He has every right to complain and to hold out if that's what he wants. Makes sense to me to rattle your saber in this kind of situation. Just playing devils advocate here, but didnt the player/agent know what was in the contract when they signed? So they had already agreed to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Martin better be careful because Roger Saffold is out there. Cowboys and Jerry Jones have the leverage! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 3 hours ago, Just in Atlanta said: Why doesn't House have any money? Or is he just cheap? The word is frugal my friend 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospector Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) A white guy named Martin, what a jerk! Edited July 21, 2023 by Prospector Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 10 hours ago, TheWeatherMan said: After the FA additions and the Draft, I’m more comfortable with G than I am at RT. The #2 WR and RT are the weakest links on the team IMO. I think that was before Spencer Brown was able to win a home run derby... because of how much turning is required to swing a bat that hard and the weight transfer ability... he didn't look like he would have been able to do that past year following the back surgery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 BEANE, GET 'ER DONE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 On 7/20/2023 at 2:58 PM, cba fan said: looks like he restructured and added voidable years so it required agent/player and team renegotiation. That was the time to address his perceived salary underpaid issue. Or he should have not agreed to the restructure. His agent blew it. He gets paid plenty for his output. Not NFL fault as players become FA and reset market higher. The only way a guy at his age can get a contract that is commensurate to his ability at his age is to force the issue. Maybe you're right that his agent blew it, but this league also gives way too much leverage to the owners. The only way a player can get paid is to threaten the team sometimes. I don't like it when it's one of the players on my team, but it's just a reality in the NFL. Players at certain positions have little leverage other than to threaten to sit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 20 hours ago, billsfan89 said: This ends with the Cowboys doing something very minor to just make Martin happy and "show him some love" then address it longer term in the offseason. But Martin is also going to 33 this season and the Cowboys have Martin on a great deal next season. Tricky situation but I think Martin knows this is his last chance to get a big money deal and he has to try and take advantage of it. Yeah, those all make sense to me, and it is indeed a tricky situation with a guy (very reasonably) looking for his last big payday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 12 hours ago, Bray Wyatt said: Just playing devils advocate here, but didnt the player/agent know what was in the contract when they signed? So they had already agreed to it Strictly speaking, this isn't in the contract. It's in the massive web of surrounding documents, probably the CBA though I don't know for sure. Yes, he knew it was in the collective bargaining agreement. And both he, his agent, and the team also knew what was in there about holdouts as well. Holdouts are allowed. You can't hold a guy to some provisions of the CBA and the contract but not all of them. The players have to accept that the teams can cut them anytime. The teams have to accept that the players can hold out under certain conditions. It's all part of the deal. None of it less morally acceptable than the rest of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 Given this I wonder if they regret letting the guard that we signed go 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 McGovern for Martin, straight up. Well played, Beane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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