teef Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 it's really too bad that this is what it has come to. the only reason i ended up going last year, (couldn't get tickets) was because i was given 4 through a corporate tent on the very last day of camp. my kids are old enough to start to get into it, but my god was that place packed. it felt like they couldn't have fit another person if they wanted to. even to get autographs it was 6-7 kids deep at the fence. i hadn't been in a few years, but i don't remember it being that kind of a scene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, teef said: it's really too bad that this is what it has come to. the only reason i ended up going last year, (couldn't get tickets) was because i was given 4 through a corporate tent on the very last day of camp. my kids are old enough to start to get into it, but my god was that place packed. it felt like they couldn't have fit another person if they wanted to. even to get autographs it was 6-7 kids deep at the fence. i hadn't been in a few years, but i don't remember it being that kind of a scene. That's the price of success. And players like Josh, Diggs (before he gets traded, that is) and Von. Edited June 26, 2023 by Doc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 4 hours ago, teef said: it's really too bad that this is what it has come to. the only reason i ended up going last year, (couldn't get tickets) was because i was given 4 through a corporate tent on the very last day of camp. my kids are old enough to start to get into it, but my god was that place packed. it felt like they couldn't have fit another person if they wanted to. even to get autographs it was 6-7 kids deep at the fence. i hadn't been in a few years, but i don't remember it being that kind of a scene. I remember when I was a kid, the Bills would hold free training camp practices at various high schools. They practiced on my high school field in Rochester and it was such a memorable experience. Went around getting all those great 80s/90s player autographs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 To those of you selling super inflated camp tickets on stub hub, ***** you all you greedy bastards!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 11 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I remember when I was a kid, the Bills would hold free training camp practices at various high schools. They practiced on my high school field in Rochester and it was such a memorable experience. Went around getting all those great 80s/90s player autographs. they did that as recent as the 90s? what school? i never went to a camp in fredonia, so i never really had the close up experience. when the camp first opened in rochester, it was definitely a bit more loose, and i would randomly run into players just going back a forth to practice. I had a nice back and forth with george wilson on year as we just walking towards the field. the only two times i've had close up interactions with any bills have been at the jim kelly football camp when it was at st. bonna, and when we won a saturday practice walkthrough at an auction. i specifically lofton being there, bruce not practicing but standing around in a fur coat, and steve christie being super excited to sign anything, (i think it was his first year). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 14 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: To those of you selling super inflated camp tickets on stub hub, ***** you all you greedy bastards!! out of total curiosity, what are they selling them for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 13 minutes ago, teef said: out of total curiosity, what are they selling them for? Between $73-$91/ticket🙃 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Between $73-$91/ticket🙃 no way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 It was ridiculous to give up to 6 tickets. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 3 hours ago, teef said: they did that as recent as the 90s? what school? i never went to a camp in fredonia, so i never really had the close up experience. when the camp first opened in rochester, it was definitely a bit more loose, and i would randomly run into players just going back a forth to practice. I had a nice back and forth with george wilson on year as we just walking towards the field. the only two times i've had close up interactions with any bills have been at the jim kelly football camp when it was at st. bonna, and when we won a saturday practice walkthrough at an auction. i specifically lofton being there, bruce not practicing but standing around in a fur coat, and steve christie being super excited to sign anything, (i think it was his first year). that was at fairport high school— probably around 1987. I think they went to other high schools too— must have been some promotional thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: that was at fairport high school— probably around 1987. I think they went to other high schools too— must have been some promotional thing. that's great. were you in those 700 kids sized classes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcash Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 Looking for tickets for 26th, 27th and 28th, thanks!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomstone.Part.Duex Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 I don't see them on Stubhub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 (edited) 17 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I remember when I was a kid, the Bills would hold free training camp practices at various high schools. They practiced on my high school field in Rochester and it was such a memorable experience. Went around getting all those great 80s/90s player autographs. Yep, I remember same.... Fairport in '87, Gates-Chili in '88. (I went to Penfield, graduated '87.) Part of their "regionalization" strategy that became needless after they moved to Fisher. Easy in and out, easy access to players. These were actually post-draft minicamps if I remember right (not during training camp), and soon after that (i.e., when they got good and a high school could no longer accommodate the crowd) they decided to hold public minicamp practices only at the Ralph. That was fun but you were separated from the players and autographs, if you're into that kind of thing, were difficult. In '88 I got to chat a bit with Dean Cain, who was in camp as a UDFA. He was a senior and I was a freshman at the same college (we were on break before finals). I think he was one of the replacement players that fall before hurting his knee and moving on to Hollywood. I do remember at one of them, Jim Kelly signed my placard and his signature was HUGE. I moved over to the defensive side and Fred Smerlas took a look and said, "Hey Bruce. Look at this," pointing at Kelly's signature. Bruce looked at it, rolled his eyes, and said, "The whole page, huh?" 🤣 Edited June 27, 2023 by BRH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said: To those of you selling super inflated camp tickets on stub hub, ***** you all you greedy bastards!! Also, F you to those who grab the max number of tix, and then don’t end up going because… A - It may rain B - It is too hot C - It is too cold D - They were free, and I changed my mind and didn’t bother going. Edited June 27, 2023 by LabattBlue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 7 hours ago, teef said: that's great. were you in those 700 kids sized classes? 700?! oh wow— they must have grown. I probably had like 400 in my class. You go to HS in Rochester too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 With the set up the way it is now, I don't think I'll ever be at a practice. STH first and then go into a que. i used to go every year now I can't even sniff a ticket. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commish Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 There must be a way - at a minimum - to prevent resale of TC tickets on the on-line secondary markets, right?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 22 minutes ago, Commish said: There must be a way - at a minimum - to prevent resale of TC tickets on the on-line secondary markets, right?! Nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Bills Mafia will donate hundreds of thousand of dollars to a cause one day and then turn around and charge 70-$80 for a training camp ticket 🤷♂️ I mean give them away if anything for the kids if your looking to unload them..it’s a practice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadPerry Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 I am a season ticket holder and was able to get a single date with 6 tickets. A friend had requested them in advance. I have no intention of going so I transferred them to him for he and his family immediately after getting them. The link he received goes nowhere. Just an error. And on my end there is a message that there is a delay in the transfer specific to this event. I still have the option to cancel the transfer since he has been unable so far to accept them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 22 hours ago, teef said: out of total curiosity, what are they selling them for? Article linked on the home page says $160. Shameful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 12 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: 700?! oh wow— they must have grown. I probably had like 400 in my class. You go to HS in Rochester too? i had to look and it was 600, but that's still a huge class. i went to mcquaid in the early/mid 90s. 14 minutes ago, PBF81 said: Article linked on the home page says $160. Shameful! yeah that's gross. i can't imagine anyone spending that on a practice ticket either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 On 6/26/2023 at 3:57 PM, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Ugh. Not even close to getting any. I am looking for 5 to July 27. Will also pay money. Had to disappoint my kids last year by not going. Wanted to make the trip to Rochester (where I grew up) to show them around this year. You may want to go anyway. I think there's places to get at least some of a view outside the pay area. At least there used to be. You can go there when nothing's going on, park and take a look around for possible vantage points. Parking during practices is probably a pita. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, MadPerry said: I am a season ticket holder and was able to get a single date with 6 tickets. A friend had requested them in advance. I have no intention of going so I transferred them to him for he and his family immediately after getting them. The link he received goes nowhere. Just an error. And on my end there is a message that there is a delay in the transfer specific to this event. I still have the option to cancel the transfer since he has been unable so far to accept them. You can't access the tickets until right before training camp. https://www.wgrz.com/article/news/local/free-buffalo-bills-training-camp-tickets-resold-online-sports-money/71-64a6b41d-9b09-4a7d-abc4-5e3f3cfda498 Edited June 28, 2023 by T&C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Should just be first come first serve at the gate, and when they hit capacity, that’s it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 2 hours ago, PBF81 said: You may want to go anyway. I think there's places to get at least some of a view outside the pay area. At least there used to be. You can go there when nothing's going on, park and take a look around for possible vantage points. Parking during practices is probably a pita. thanks! I think i am going to try this. Maybe if I bum around too, I can stumble upon some tickets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadPerry Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 2 hours ago, T&C said: You can't access the tickets until right before training camp. https://www.wgrz.com/article/news/local/free-buffalo-bills-training-camp-tickets-resold-online-sports-money/71-64a6b41d-9b09-4a7d-abc4-5e3f3cfda498 Maybe the actual tickets arent available until then, but transfers sound like they will be sorted out soon. This email reply below from ticket office: Hi XXXXXX, Thanks for your email. Ticketmaster was intending to turn on the Transfer function in full later this week. I’d recommend cancelling the Transfer and trying again later on. Please let me know if you have any other questions. Go Bills! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: thanks! I think i am going to try this. Maybe if I bum around too, I can stumble upon some tickets. FWIW I don't recall any vantage points outside the gates/fences at SJF to see the practice. There may be some security 'holes' in the surrounding fence tho 😛 - although security may be beefed up now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 14 minutes ago, stevewin said: FWIW I don't recall any vantage points outside the gates/fences at SJF to see the practice. There may be some security 'holes' in the surrounding fence tho 😛 - although security may be beefed up now i think you're correct on this. i was trying to imagine any decent way you can see the practice field well without being inside the camp area. we had tickets last year and could still barely see what was going on. we were allowed to get up to the field, but it was 6-7 people deep. the main stands were completely filled, so we watched, sitting on the lawn on the opposite side on the makeshift stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 3 hours ago, teef said: i think you're correct on this. i was trying to imagine any decent way you can see the practice field well without being inside the camp area. we had tickets last year and could still barely see what was going on. we were allowed to get up to the field, but it was 6-7 people deep. the main stands were completely filled, so we watched, sitting on the lawn on the opposite side on the makeshift stands. Yeah - they've done due diligence to fence off the whole main area 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, teef said: i think you're correct on this. i was trying to imagine any decent way you can see the practice field well without being inside the camp area. we had tickets last year and could still barely see what was going on. we were allowed to get up to the field, but it was 6-7 people deep. the main stands were completely filled, so we watched, sitting on the lawn on the opposite side on the makeshift stands. You can always park on the 490 with a pair of binoculars. It would be the first time you've done it I'm sure. 😆 Edited June 28, 2023 by The Wiz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, The Wiz said: You can always park on the 490 with a pair of binoculars. It would be the first time you've done it I'm sure. 😆 lol! that or i'm going to drive down 490 at about 5 mph just to get a good look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 11 hours ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said: Bills Mafia will donate hundreds of thousand of dollars to a cause one day and then turn around and charge 70-$80 for a training camp ticket 🤷♂️ I mean give them away if anything for the kids if your looking to unload them..it’s a practice. I get the spirit of what your saying. Unfortunately not everyone has a charitable heart and in the flip, not everyone is scalping free tickets. There's bad eggs in every group, as im sure you're 100% aware go bills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 5 hours ago, stevewin said: FWIW I don't recall any vantage points outside the gates/fences at SJF to see the practice. There may be some security 'holes' in the surrounding fence tho 😛 - although security may be beefed up now thanks. this is so frustrating. Most teams have their camps at sleepy small colleges (similar to fredonia), and there are no issues showing up And watching. I have been to camps like that for the Colts and Steelers. Not sure why this has to be such a production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 The whining is worse than when @teefand @Royale with Cheesewere shut out of getting Taylor Swift tickets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 A drone might be the best way if you can't score tickets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: thanks. this is so frustrating. Most teams have their camps at sleepy small colleges (similar to fredonia), and there are no issues showing up And watching. I have been to camps like that for the Colts and Steelers. Not sure why this has to be such a production. Because our fan base is 10x more glued in and rapid Edited June 29, 2023 by Buffalo716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 12 hours ago, PBF81 said: Article linked on the home page says $160. Shameful! From that article... Quote "It shall be unlawful for any person, firm or corporation to resell or offer to resell any ticket or other evidence of the right of entry to any place of entertainment if such ticket was initially offered to the public at no charge and access to such tickets is not contingent upon providing any form of monetary consideration. "An online resale marketplace shall be required to clearly and conspicuously disclose the established price charged by the operator of a place of entertainment that is printed or endorsed on the face of each ticket in accordance with section 25.07 of this article prior to the user completing any transaction." "If you do purchase to an event, we always recommend using a credit card because, depending on your credit card company's policy, that's going to be the best chance at getting your money back if you do run into a scam," Schmieder says. So buy them on the secondary market, once the transfer is completed, call your cc company and tell them according to New York law this was a scam and you want your money back. Maybe you'll get to keep the tickets, maybe not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 25 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Because our fan base is 10x more glued in and rapid I think that is part of it. But I think the other issues are: (1) we don’t have nearly as many TC Public practices as many other teams (10 Rochester Public ones compared to like 16+ for other teams); and (2) I haven’t been to the recent iteration of TC, but it seems like with all the fan experience stuff, the capacity seems much smaller. I also wish they did what a lot of other teams do, which is have special practices with the extra bells and whistles just for Season ticket holders, and then let the rest of the masses go to the remainder of the practices. I think the bengals and chiefs both do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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