Ethan in Cleveland Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Einstein said: Your refusal to see a massive issue is not analogous with me over dramatizing. The head coach himself said he is very concerned. Is he over dramatizing as well? You think missing a day of OTAs is a massive issue? How long have you been following football. These practices are meaningless. If McD is such a good coach and communicator then maybe he should reach out to Diggs and figure out what is going on. Maybe he has and we don't know. But to think this is a massive issue is crazy. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainwashedBillsFan Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 2 hours ago, jletha said: I cant possibly understand what in the world Diggs could be protesting. He signed a new deal last year, hes on a top 3 offense with a top 3 QB. Whats the angle here? He wants to be traded...to where? He wants more money...based on what? Cut bait and sign Hopkins if this gets any uglier. All he wants to do is be a fashion model and hang with yuppies, it’s pathetic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Just now, BullBuchanan said: cry more. So this is your response to Diggs not showing up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 1 minute ago, LabattBlue said: Just another punk diva WR. I will be interested to see all the homers defend him now. Does being so competitive and wanting to win include not showing up for mandatory minicamp? Nice contract structure…either take a MASSIVE dead cap hit in 2024, or live with this primadonna. Look it is a mandatory activity so he should be there participating if he’s good to go. It’s part of the job. I get that. But in practical terms, Diggs does not need minicamp. It has absolutely no effect on his potential performance this coming season. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Let's all be honest. It kind of hurts because deep down, we know we aren't going anywhere without him this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 I just watched the GMFB discussion of whether the Bills are better or worse than last year. The conclusion was they're probably about the same, but they need to heal from within after the crushing emotional blows they had last year. So Diggs skips out. One of the team's leaders, and probably the most vocal leader. This is terrible. McD is right to be concerned. What are the other players supposed to think? That the Bills can just show up and go 12-7 or better and sweep to another AFCE championship? I sure hope that's not the thought. There's never a time for complacency. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Teams will franchise Qbs should make SB appearances. Agree? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Just now, newcam2012 said: Diggs holds all the cards here and he knows it. No he doesn’t and I don’t think he wants out - where is he going to go and btw thanks for tanking your trade value - it’s not happening Just now, newcam2012 said: I'm on record saying Diggs would be a problem this year. I rec'd a lot of negativity for that. This is just the beginning. Imho, Diggs is a super competitive player. He wants to win and doesn't handle losing well. He can likely see McD and Dorsey can't and won't get it done. He bit his tongue on the sideline with McD. He's probably close to reaching his breaking point. The McD culture building will be fractured. It is likely to get pretty ugly. This…..I can’t disagree at all fans still have their head in the sand on how damaging 13 seconds was. Imo Diggs doesn’t trust the coaches anymore. How he’s dealing with that in the locker room I have no idea. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlbills13 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 He's pissed but he'll be back when it matters. He's untradeable/uncuttable especially at this point in the offseason and he knows that. Who knows what or who he's upset with. I'd guess he communicated some concerns yesterday to McD and Beane and now McD is exaggerating the situation by saying he's "very concerned" as a way to show Diggs that he cares. Hope Kincaid, Davis, Shakier, Harty, etc enjoy the extra reps and step up over the next few months. You want your stars on the field but maybe some positives come from it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 None of this really makes sense from a football perspective. Most holdouts are contract related. But Stefon Diggs is already one of the highest paid receivers in football, just signed his extension a year ago and even agreed to a restructure in March. He hasn't made any hints about being unhappy about money. And nothing in his agent's statement suggested he was looking for a new contract. So you can probably rule that out. Some of have suggested his problem is usage related. But this also makes no sense. He's caught 100 passes each of the last three seasons with the team and has been the focal point of the passing game for that entire time. Considering our additions at the WR position that surely isn't going to change in 2023. Unless the guy expects to catch 150 balls every year, I can't imagine him being upset with this either. Another idea is that he's not happy with someone on the team, especially after the playoff loss to the Bengals. Maybe Ken Dorsey. Maybe Josh Allen. Maybe Sean McDermott. Although I think that's a certainly a reasonable possibility -- it really doesn't make sense from Diggs perspective. How does missing Day 1 of training camp fix the situation? We can't go back and replay the Bengals game. We can only move forward and hope to be better when the 2023 season and 2023 playoffs roll around. And if Diggs is hoping to demand a trade... it's already been stated numerous times that our cap situation would actually be WORSE to cut/trade him, than if we just let him sit the bench. It isn't going to happen, no matter how many tantrums he throws. He must know this. Not to mention, why wouldn't he have formally requested a trade during the offseason? Why be cryptic and quiet for months, and then surprise everyone the first day of camp? And why would he have then shown up in Buffalo yesterday, met with Beane/McDermott and then left again this morning? Just seems to be an irrational way to go about things. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 1 minute ago, JoPoy88 said: Look it is a mandatory activity so he should be there participating if he’s good to go. It’s part of the job. I get that. But in practical terms, Diggs does not need minicamp. It has absolutely no effect on his potential performance this coming season. But what's the effect on other players? Not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 28 minutes ago, Shanahan's Horseshoe said: Luckily we have the leadership to absorb this. I like his edge and I thought he should’ve been pissed at the end of the season but starting the season like this is pure immaturity Agreed. It is 5 months later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: Hahaha…caring about the fans and WNY are probably not in Diggs top ten list of things on his mind. To be fair, if you're considering those as separate items then maybe both don't make his top 10. But as one item: "caring about the fans and WNY" I think there's a very good chance we make his top 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: Diggs holds all the cards here and he knows it. I'm on record saying Diggs would be a problem this year. I rec'd a lot of negativity for that. This is just the beginning. Imho, Diggs is a super competitive player. He wants to win and doesn't handle losing well. He can likely see McD and Dorsey can't and won't get it done. He bit his tongue on the sideline with McD. He's probably close to reaching his breaking point. The McD culture building will be fractured. It is likely to get pretty ugly. He holds no cards. Hes untradeable and uncuttable. His cap ramifications are massive. He is fineable, though. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 9 minutes ago, nbbillsfan said: They did not. I know they had not spoken at all as of a month ago. This is happening now because it was the first time they had to all be together. Not calling you out, I haven't been on a lot like I have in the past. How did you manage to come across what you know (without giving up sources etc) I'm just trying to catch up and am hoping your info is legit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Einstein Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: You think missing a day of OTAs is a massive issue? This issue is not 1 day of OTA’s. It is - Screaming at the franchise QB on the sidelines about something - Taking Bills related stuff off of his social media - Not showing up to voluntaries - Not showing up to mandatories - The HEAD COACH HIMSELF saying that he is very concerned It is amazing to me that the people who trust McD wholeheartedly are brushing off a clear statement from McD stating that he is very concerned. McD rarely says something so harsh. But he did this time. For a reason! 2 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 (edited) Can’t imagine him being voted captain again this year. I get sick of dealing with sensitive people always pouting about this and that where you constantly have to worry about their emotional state. Edited June 13, 2023 by Arkady Renko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: You think missing a day of OTAs is a massive issue? How long have you been following football. These practices are meaningless. If McD is such a good coach and communicator then maybe he should reach out to Diggs and figure out what is going on. Maybe he has and we don't know. But to think this is a massive issue is crazy. It goes 100% against the culture McD had built. For that reason it's a very big deal. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 1 minute ago, LabattBlue said: So this is your response to Diggs not showing up? It's my response to you being a child about it. You seem to have some weird agenda with trashing him despite him being a top 5 player at his position and putting together the best receiving seasons in Bills history. I don't give a ***** about a 3 day minicamp in early June. I just hope the dude is ok. If he misses time in September, I'll be concerned about it. 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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