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I figured 3 Hopkins threads were enough so I thought a different thread might be fun.

 

Is their an opinion that you have changed or evolved over a period of time? 

 

Mine involves positions worthy of a first round pick. I defended teams like the Colts taking a probable HOF guard with a top 10 pick in the past and at the time. Many others said it was crazy to take a guard that high. Same with TE when I wanted Hockenson over Oliver. 

 

In a relatively short period of time I've changed my thought.  Even if a player ends up a ProBowl level talent there are just so many positions that don't matter enough to warrant a first round pick. For me its a combination of the true value they bring to winning and also the opportunity to get a player at the same position that can play at a high level much later in the draft.

 

Positions I would take in the first round:

1. QB

2. LT

3. WR

4. DE/edge

5. CB

 

Positions I might take in the first round:

1. DT

2. TE

3. RT

 

Positions I would never take in the first round:

1. Obviously K and P

2. LB

3. S

4. RB

5. IOL

 

 

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Dawson Knox is not good. -> Dawson might have potential -> Dawson is not good, he cant catch, block or run routes. Full circle evolution. Likeable guy, has had a few moments but... Not everyone is, or can be good or great. 

 

High hopes for Kincaid though.

 

Paraphrasing Bill Belicheck: If were talking about his ability to catch the ball, (a wr) thats a problem.

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Interesting post topic. Thanks.

 

My thoughts on going for it on 4th down have changed over time. I  currently believe that if you have an above average offense and your at the 50 yard line or on the other team's side of the field, I would recommend going for it a lot more than when I first started watching and playing football in the late 80s.

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One topic of mine that has involved in the opposite direction is Special Teams. Guys like Tasker made a difference in multiple facets and Special Teams gunners, blockers, and tacklers made a team.

 

For the life of me, I have come to believe that McDermott believes that every team is required to have a handful of players that do nothing for you. Most of these players are what we call "Special Teams" aces. The Bills have had few of these in actuality, yet they seem required to give a roster spot each year to Taiwan Jones.

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Being that 100 percent of ALL draft picks are for need, and if you truly have a franchise QB, you need to do two things, 1) protect him, 2) give him weapons. Then you draft according to those needs. 
 

   In this era of the NFL offense is the more important side of the ball, if you can’t out score your opponents, you lose. 
 

  Do ya hear me Sean? You to Brandon..,

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, SCBills said:

IOL & LB are the positions I’ve probably evolved my opinion on the most. 

 

IOL.. I would absolutely draft in RD1. 
 

LB.. I would absolutely NOT draft in RD1. 

So good LB's don't come in round 1? that's why would not draft LB in round 1? Am I getting this correct? 

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6 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

So good LB's don't come in round 1? that's why would not draft LB in round 1? Am I getting this correct? 


I don’t value the position in RD1

 

Give me a stout DL with fast, twitchy LB’ers drafted on Day 2 & Day 3.  


They may be undersized, because the ones with size who are also fast & twitchy will go RD1, but if we have a DL that keeps them clean, shouldn’t matter a ton in the modern NFL. 

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29 minutes ago, SCBills said:


I don’t value the position in RD1

 

Give me a stout DL with fast, twitchy LB’ers drafted on Day 2 & Day 3.  


They may be undersized, because the ones with size who are also fast & twitchy will go RD1, but if we have a DL that keeps them clean, shouldn’t matter a ton in the modern NFL. 

We are only discussing the bolded, where you value them elsewhere and other positions is not the point. The point is... IT depends on the draft for any position but in general? Many great LBS came out of round 1. so for me saying that does not make sense. but its your opinion and i respect it.

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Where I've changed over the years is looking at things more from the General Manager's perspective than my own. 

 

I used to see things a GM would do or not do and get upset about them from my own point of view. 

 

Now, having seen how Beane operates over the past number of years, I look at things more about how I expect him to address things rather than how I would. 

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3 hours ago, PrimeTime101 said:

So good LB's don't come in round 1? that's why would not draft LB in round 1? Am I getting this correct? 

There are good LBs in round 1. But even the best ones don't make enough plays to make a difference.  Corners and edge rushers are more critical pieces of your defense. 

 

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You take the LB with pass rushing ability, no question. Micah Parsons and his 4.3 forty is going first round in every draft. You don’t know how these guys will pan out, so it’s easy to say “take the Brian Urlacher or Ray Lewis types,” but if he can rush the passer or has a feel for the game like he knows what plays are coming, he’s worth a 1st round selection. 

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6 hours ago, JayBaller10 said:

You take the LB with pass rushing ability, no question. Micah Parsons and his 4.3 forty is going first round in every draft. You don’t know how these guys will pan out, so it’s easy to say “take the Brian Urlacher or Ray Lewis types,” but if he can rush the passer or has a feel for the game like he knows what plays are coming, he’s worth a 1st round selection. 

Good point. That’s why I said DE/edge. He was always a pass rusher first just like Miller. I think Dallas is moving him to DE full time this year

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12 hours ago, Don Otreply said:

Being that 100 percent of ALL draft picks are for need, and if you truly have a franchise QB, you need to do two things, 1) protect him, 2) give him weapons. Then you draft according to those needs. 
 

   In this era of the NFL offense is the more important side of the ball, if you can’t out score your opponents, you lose. 
 

  Do ya hear me Sean? You to Brandon..,

 

 

 

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Yeah, Sean. Yeah, Brandon. Second in points per game in the entire NFL just won’t do. Doesn’t matter that we scored more per game than the Eagles, Vikes and yes, even the Bengals.  👎👎👎👎
 

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20 minutes ago, Dopey said:

Yeah, Sean. Yeah, Brandon. Second in points per game in the entire NFL just won’t do. Doesn’t matter that we scored more per game than the Eagles, Vikes and yes, even the Bengals.  👎👎👎👎
 

You missed the point, it was sarcasm, note the lol face…, 

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I used to think that cheese and fish were disgusting. Now they are two of my favorite foods (just not together). What was I thinking? I was but a child, and I have seen the error of my ways. 

 

Is this what we are looking for? 

 

The game has changed, so my opinions have changed. That’s how I tell myself I was never wrong. 😋

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I used to think being a “true fan” of a sports team was more important than the actual enjoyment that I got out of watching them play. As I got older and my life got more complicated overlapping with the Bills suckage dragging on for 17 straight seasons, I realized the enjoyment was the most important part and if I wasn’t enjoying it it wasn’t worth the time invested in it. I’m pretty sure this realization coincided with the McKelvin fumbled KO return that snatched defeat from the jaws of victory against the Pats*** on MNF. After that loss, before the current regime, if I had something better to do on a Sunday than torture myself with inept football I did it. It’s been a welcome evolution. Wins are just as much fun, but losses sting a lot less and life goes on in minutes to hours instead of days… and I don’t feel any less the “true fan” despite the attitude adjustment. 

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