JohnBonhamRocks Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 2 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said: A lot of people say if it's about the money, we're done. But they don't seem to consider it's not black and white. For instance if the Pats* put out an offer $1M more than the Bills, it probably isn't cut and dry - especially if the competing offer contains incentive clauses. It's just how close does our offer have to be for him to take ours over the competition. I think part of the hold up is, if true, that no one has offered up OBJ money. I think DHop has a legitimate gripe, I think DHop is more valuable than OBJ. I agree with you because OBJ’s most recent body of work is catching a Super Bowl-winning TD, which probably inflates his value higher than it should be. Hopkins has been and clearly is the better overall WR. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 46 minutes ago, teef said: i know you think being contrarian makes you seem intelligent...i'd re-evaluate that. I'd re-evaluate what you think you "know". I am not a contrarian, I am a realist. There are people who agree with me, and to them I would be a conformist. I am only a contrarian to you (and other homers) because I do not prescribe to what you think is true.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottLaw Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 53 minutes ago, HappyDays said: That is a cherry picked summary of what Schefter said. Nothing new is really reported here. The Bills and seemingly every other team are unwilling to give Hopkins the contract he wants. It will be a long process to get the right deal that both sides are happy with. Can’t really let him go to the Chiefs, I realize the Bills cap situation is tight but that would be a failure on the Bills end IMO. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 2 hours ago, MasterStrategist said: He's bounced between 3 teams in 3 seasons, signed by Miami last September because of all their injuries. Likley a similar 1 year deal to Quess ($1.6m). He's sitting there on May 29th for a reason. Again, I like the signing. But it's depth and if he has to play meaningful snaps, then that means Spencer played horrible. My point is let's not act like we just upgraded the RT position, best chance of that happening is Spencer playing his A game. I agree brother I have Brown penciled in as our day 1 starter. Expect and at this point demand a big jump in play 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 16 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said: I don’t follow hockey, but in the event I’ve got the Sabres on the Telly, who are the two superstars? Did Dahlin ever pan out or live up to the hype? Haven’t heard his name since he was drafted. Yeah, Dahlin has panned out, to say the least. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 3 hours ago, SUNY_amherst said: yeah well where have I heard that before. (a lot over the last 12 years) by the way, I'm not a big hockey guy but I did see two of their previous "superstars set up for long term success" are playing for the Cup. Albeit with other cities They had the youngest team in the NHL this season and missed the playoffs by 1 point. The future is so bright I gotta wear shades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 53 minutes ago, Augie said: We don’t have to sit in the whiners room with the folks who didn’t make it. That’s worth something. 😋 Yeah it's worth a lower draft pick. 53 minutes ago, Augie said: OH! AND…….if you are IN the playoffs, your chances of winning a SB go WAY up! I checked the math, and that is true. You need the stars to align, but with a few good bounces along the way we have a team that CAN win it all. I like being in the running most years over taking huge swings and missing. I liked getting Von last year, but the ball bounced the wrong way. It happens. If teams had equal odds (or even close to equal odds) to win the Super Bowl, by simply making the playoffs, then you would see a large variety of teams winning the Super Bowl. Instead, five teams have won 13 of the last 20 Super Bowl's. Because there is a formula to Super Bowl teams. And just making the playoffs is not the formula. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 (edited) Anyone else think they may have Non-Hopkins Fatigue Syndrome? Edited May 30 by Coach Tuesday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted May 30 Author Share Posted May 30 53 minutes ago, Billl said: Mahomes isn’t getting a new contract. That’s all been made very clear. Schefter today said that behind the scenes Mahomes wants a new contract. If he wants one they'll have to give him one. When the best player in your franchise's history says jump you say how high. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 1 hour ago, Rocky Landing said: You have a telling proclivity to cherry pick certain points, and ignore others. Example: Admitting to two big signings, and ignoring the numerous other moves that built a team coming off a 17 playoff drought, to a perennial playoff contender. We were discussing "big" signings. Not average-to-good signings that turned a middling team into a playoff team. I have a proclivity to following the conversation, yes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 3 minutes ago, Einstein said: Yeah it's worth a lower draft pick. If teams had equal odds (or even close to equal odds) to win the Super Bowl, by simply making the playoffs, then you would see a large variety of teams winning the Super Bowl. Instead, five teams have won 13 of the last 20 Super Bowl's. Because there is a formula to Super Bowl teams. And just making the playoffs is not the formula. I promise, if you do NOT make the playoffs, you will NOT win the Super Bowl. I’ll give you your money back if I’m wrong. I do hope you are the best in your industry every day of the year, and your child is always valedictorian. I’d love a Super Bowl. I don’t NEED a Super Bowl. We have a good and full life, and I enjoy watching our Bills on most weekends during the season. The deeper they run in the playoffs, the more I enjoy it. But even if you DO win it all, you get ready for a new season. It’s not just about the moment of winning. For me I can enjoy going thru the seasons without having to be an obsessive malcontent. I do this for FUN. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 2 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Schefter today said that behind the scenes Mahomes wants a new contract. If he wants one they'll have to give him one. When the best player in your franchise's history says jump you say how high. I've always wondered what would happen if a HOF QB (like Brady or Manning or Mahomes) pulled a power move, asking for something crazy like $100M per season and not playing until they get it. What would the Chiefs do? You're fresh off of a Super Bowl and Mahomes is in his prime, and you let him sit? Waste a year (or more if he's stubborn) of his prime? QB's seem to be the least likely players to use their power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Einstein said: I've always wondered what would happen if a HOF QB (like Brady or Manning or Mahomes) pulled a power move, asking for something crazy like $100M per season and not playing until they get it. What would the Chiefs do? You're fresh off of a Super Bowl and Mahomes is in his prime, and you let him sit? Waste a year (or more if he's stubborn) of his prime? QB's seem to be the least likely players to use their power. I would sit him, just like I would have done with Bruce after someone else got a raise to make more than him. Let them feel the pain. My list of faults is virtually endless, but I’d be stubborn over someone getting more than they should (which is obviously nebulous). . Edited May 30 by Augie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 1 minute ago, Augie said: I’d love a Super Bowl. I don’t NEED a Super Bowl. I envy you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 1 minute ago, Einstein said: I envy you. You NEED air and water. Remember the old asthma commercial that said “when you can’t breathe, nothing else matters”? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 Just now, Augie said: I would sit him, just like I would have done with Bruce after someone else got a raise to make more than him. My list of faults is virtually endless, but I’d be stubborn over someone getting more than they should (which is obviously nebulous). I think I would too. However, the flip side to that is... As a GM and Head Coach, you have to wonder how long you can let a HOF'er sit before the fans uproar so loud (via loss of ticket sales as well as verbally), that you yourself are on the hot seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 pry amazing how the argument has boiled down to 'well we don't need Hopkins because everyone is going to die anyway' 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 19 minutes ago, Einstein said: Yeah it's worth a lower draft pick. If teams had equal odds (or even close to equal odds) to win the Super Bowl, by simply making the playoffs, then you would see a large variety of teams winning the Super Bowl. Instead, five teams have won 13 of the last 20 Super Bowl's. Because there is a formula to Super Bowl teams. And just making the playoffs is not the formula. So what’s this magic “ formula” ? It appears at first glance to be a QB named Tom Brady , followed by a Roethlisberger , or one with a surname of “ Manning”. Anything else ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 1 minute ago, Einstein said: I think I would too. However, the flip side to that is... As a GM and Head Coach, you have to wonder how long you can let a HOF'er sit before the fans uproar so loud (via loss of ticket sales as well as verbally), that you yourself are on the hot seat. I hope I would stick to my guns and do the right thing, the job I was hired to do. I’d rather be fired for doing the right thing than keep my job by being bad at it. 1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said: So what’s this magic “ formula” ? It appears at first glance to be a QB named Tom Brady , followed by a Roethlisberger , or one with a surname of “ Manning”. Anything else ? SHHHH! Don’t give away trade secrets! We are just now decoding this Top Secret message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 If Hopkins is looking for the most money he can get, it’s not going to be Buffalo (or KC). If he wants to play with a great QB and chase a championship then I think Buffalo or KC is where he lands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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