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[gonzo1105]

Just now, In Summary said:

Is it wrong to want to finish out the day with a big tub-O-goo 1-tech DT?

I know someone else mentioned him already but if you want big tub o goo than Jerrod Clark from Coastal Carolina is your man 

[Nitro]

7 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said:

Great, all three networks glossed over the Bills pick.  Didn't even bother showing highlights.

Very annoying.

[mathja]

Getting passes from Joe Burrow and Tua helps. I know Anthony Richardson got drafted high as well, but he didn’t play a whole bunch of the games that Shorter played in. 
When kids transfer, I think it’s easier to get lost in the scouting shuffle. Brandon being definitely likes to pick players that were five star athletes coming out of high school. This absolutely fit that bill. 

[GunnerBill]

Just now, IronMaidenBills said:

True, but 4.4 speed doesn’t grow on trees. I’m willing to give a 6’3” guy NFL training for that kind of speed. He can separate with his track star ability. Shorter doesn’t really offer much that he does. 

 

I haven't see the kid play so I am not ragging on him, but you gotta do a LOT more than run fast to separate in the NFL. You have be able to release, run routes, get in and out of breaks. It is as much technique as speed.

[CNYfan]

There was a write up and video snippets on Rumblings at the time of his visit.   

Not bad

[Nitro]

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I haven't see the kid play so I am not ragging on him, but you gotta do a LOT more than run fast to separate in the NFL. You have be able to release, run routes, get in and out of breaks. It is as much technique as speed.

What I have read he is a rough and tumble kind of WR.  

[gonzo1105]

Scott would have gone earlier if he wasn’t 85 years old 

[DCofNC]

12 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Which is why I said (physically) as in his body type.  
 

I’ve seen him in person in warm ups.  He’s a physical specimen.  
 

He’s definitely not DK.  He’s not even Gabe.  He looks great off the bus.. hasn’t put it together. 

Not exactly a ringing endorsement haha.  Who knows, sometimes athletes “get it” later on/ or a good coach brings it out.  I don’t have much hope of him making the roster this year at least.  4 of the WR positions are pretty much set in stone and it’s arguable that’s 5.. tough team to make from late in the draft, even if some of us are less than thrilled with the talent level. 

[GunnerBill]

There, finally, goes Antonio Johnson. He will end up starting a LOT of NFL football games. 

[Milanos Milano]

4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I haven't see the kid play so I am not ragging on him, but you gotta do a LOT more than run fast to separate in the NFL. You have be able to release, run routes, get in and out of breaks. It is as much technique as speed.

His major downfall is his tendency to body catch, but that can be corrected. He runs good routes from what I’ve seen. 

[frostbitmic]

With all of these comp picks starting in the 3rd, rounds will be 64 players before long

1 minute ago, IronMaidenBills said:

His major downfall is his tendency to body catch, but that can be corrected. He runs good routes from what I’ve seen. 

On his tape he looked wide open quite often.

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

If we can just get 1 or 2 gems in the next 2 rounds that would be great for us.

[Milanos Milano]

1 minute ago, frostbitmic said:

With all of these comp picks starting in the 3rd, rounds will be 64 players before long

On his tape he looked wide open quite often.

He has very quick feet and can separate early due to his track instincts. His major issue is body catching. But separation isn’t an issue, somebody will draft him. 

[gonzo1105]

Great pick by Cinci love Chase Brown 

[GunnerBill]

I have 26 players left on the board.

[Yantha]

My targets in round 6:  

OC Luke Wypler

OG Andrew Vorhees

DT Moro Ojomo

S Chris Smith

DT Kondre Coburn

S Brandon Joseph

S Ronnie Hickman

S Quindell Johnson

S Trey Dean III

S Demarco Hellams

S Rashad Torrence II

OT Asim Richards

[davefan66]

Not sure what to think of this Shorter.

 

I think with the addition of Kincaid and they guys we have, inside may be covered.  I kind of expect Beese to be back after everything shakes out cap wise.  Hope this guy has hands and can be coachable to reach his potential.

 

[Draconator]

Any punters available? It worked out so well for us last year

[Yantha]

6 minutes ago, Yantha said:

My targets in round 6:  

OC Luke Wypler

OG Andrew Vorhees

DT Moro Ojomo

S Chris Smith

DT Kondre Coburn

S Brandon Joseph

S Ronnie Hickman

S Quindell Johnson

S Trey Dean III

S Demarco Hellams

S Rashad Torrence II

OT Asim Richards

 

My ideal round 6 is:

Vorhees, and Coburn

 

[GunnerBill]

Terrell Smith is a good pick for the Bears. Good value. 

[OldTimer1960]

18 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

They had him in for a 30 visit too. So this is a kid they targeted. That makes me feel a bit better about it too.

I just watched him vs LSU.  Big, muscular guy.  I did not see body catching in that game.  He can get deep with his size/speed, but as scouting reports I saw said, he isn’t a dynamic route runner.  Cutting sharply at his size is a challenge.  In that game, his size allowed him to shield defenders with his body on over the middle plays.

 

I know 1 game is not scouting, but I can see a little of what they like.  I also read that, as I guessed, he is a gunner on ST.

[Yantha]

What are the odds of taking one of the FLORIDA Safeties?  lol

 

Rashad Torrence and Trey Dean will be right in our window.  Let's make this a Florida draft!  lol

 

jk....

Edited April 29, 2023 by Yantha

[GunnerBill]

My current top 10 available..

 

1. Andrew Vorhees*, IOL, USC

2. Christopher Smith, S, Georgia

3. Jaelyn Duncan, OT, Maryland

4. Emil Ekiyor, IOL, Alabama

5. Eli Ricks, CB, Alabama

6. Xavier Hutchinson, WR, Iowa State

7. Brandon Joseph, S, Notre Dame

8. Kayshon Boutte*, WR, LSU

9. Luke Wypler, IOL, Ohio State

10. Zach Evans, RB, Ole Miss

1 minute ago, Yantha said:

What are the odds of taking one of the FLORIDA Safeties?  lol

 

Rashad Torrence and Trey Dean will be right in our window.  Let's make this a Florida draft!  lol

 

jk....

 

I think Beano's ipad is stuck on the Florida film.... so high likelihood. 

[SCBills]

4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

My current top 10 available..

 

1. Andrew Vorhees*, IOL, USC

2. Christopher Smith, S, Georgia

3. Jaelyn Duncan, OT, Maryland

4. Emil Ekiyor, IOL, Alabama

5. Eli Ricks, CB, Alabama

6. Xavier Hutchinson, WR, Iowa State

7. Brandon Joseph, S, Notre Dame

8. Kayshon Boutte*, WR, LSU

9. Luke Wypler, IOL, Ohio State

10. Zach Evans, RB, Ole Miss

 

I think Beano's ipad is stuck on the Florida film.... so high likelihood. 

 

“Sir, Philadelphia keeps drafting all the Bulldogs”

 

(spins SEC wheel / lands on the Gators)

[Yantha]

5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

My current top 10 available..

 

1. Andrew Vorhees*, IOL, USC

2. Christopher Smith, S, Georgia

3. Jaelyn Duncan, OT, Maryland

4. Emil Ekiyor, IOL, Alabama

5. Eli Ricks, CB, Alabama

6. Xavier Hutchinson, WR, Iowa State

7. Brandon Joseph, S, Notre Dame

8. Kayshon Boutte*, WR, LSU

9. Luke Wypler, IOL, Ohio State

10. Zach Evans, RB, Ole Miss

 

I think Beano's ipad is stuck on the Florida film.... so high likelihood. 

Solid list Gunner.  I like it.

Considering the contract status of many DT's on the roster, I'm thinking that a DT has to be in the mix for one pick IF there is a BPA in that window to consider.

[MasterStrategist]

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

My current top 10 available..

 

1. Andrew Vorhees*, IOL, USC

2. Christopher Smith, S, Georgia

3. Jaelyn Duncan, OT, Maryland

4. Emil Ekiyor, IOL, Alabama

5. Eli Ricks, CB, Alabama

6. Xavier Hutchinson, WR, Iowa State

7. Brandon Joseph, S, Notre Dame

8. Kayshon Boutte*, WR, LSU

9. Luke Wypler, IOL, Ohio State

10. Zach Evans, RB, Ole Miss

I thought Zach Evans would be a 5th rounder, he'd be a nice add at this point. 

 

Also a fan of Eli Ricks, specifically his high traits/potential.  Former 5-star recruit, has ideal length and press/zone scheme versatile.

[OldTimer1960]

4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

My current top 10 available..

 

1. Andrew Vorhees*, IOL, USC

2. Christopher Smith, S, Georgia

3. Jaelyn Duncan, OT, Maryland

4. Emil Ekiyor, IOL, Alabama

5. Eli Ricks, CB, Alabama

6. Xavier Hutchinson, WR, Iowa State

7. Brandon Joseph, S, Notre Dame

8. Kayshon Boutte*, WR, LSU

9. Luke Wypler, IOL, Ohio State

10. Zach Evans, RB, Ole Miss

 

I think Beano's ipad is stuck on the Florida film.... so high likelihood. 

Florida had some bad coaching and program was struggling prior to new coach arriving last year.  No doubt that they can recruit some top talent, maybe looking for some top athletes who might be behind a bit due to the program’s struggles.

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, Yantha said:

Solid list Gunner.  I like it.

Considering the contract status of many DT's on the roster, I'm thinking that a DT has to be in the mix for one pick IF there is a BPA in that window to consider.

 

The only DT left on my board with a grade is Moro Ojomo.

[Yantha]

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

The only DT left on my board with a grade is Moro Ojomo.

 

Not his teammate Coburn?

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, Yantha said:

 

Not his teammate Coburn?

 

I didn't focus on him the same way... but I wasn't super impressed what I did see. 

[Chaos]

Any theories on the Luke Wypler drop? did his college production drop in the last several weeks, or his combine results change?

 

Edited April 29, 2023 by Chaos

[Taro Nimbus]

I’ll take Brandon Joseph.  The safety out of ND.   Has a lot of upside.  Let him learn from Hyde and Poyer, and we could have our future safety.  

[Yantha]

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I didn't focus on him the same way... but I wasn't super impressed what I did see. 

 

I think he's not an every down DT but certainly great to bring in on short yardage, and goal line situations.  Great low base, and can collapse the pocket (or at least hold his ground).  Big dude.

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, Chaos said:

Any theories on the Luke Wypler drop? did his college production drop in the last several weeks, or his combine results change? 

 

Measurables. 

[Chaos]

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Measurables. 

Size?
he is pretty athletic

Edited April 29, 2023 by Chaos

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, Chaos said:

Size?
he is pretty athletic

 

Yea. Length particularly. Should say I thought he'd be gone by now too...

Edited April 29, 2023 by GunnerBill

[BADOLBILZ]

2 minutes ago, Yantha said:

 

I think he's not an every down DT but certainly great to bring in on short yardage, and goal line situations.  Great low base, and can collapse the pocket (or at least hold his ground).  Big dude.

 

 

Bills make wholesale rotations on the DL.   Everybody has to be an every down player.

[BBills83]

Can play all 3 interior spots and is a smart player. Very surprising he is still there.

 

 

[GunnerBill]

Rams been investing in oline today. 

[Nitro]

3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Rams been investing in oline today. 

Rebuilding mode.  Start on the lines and work from there.