Since1981 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: When you think about his knee issues, this might be his last big paycheck too, so getting as much as he can makes sense in case his knees don't cooperate with hi I agree. He’s looking out for his own interests $$ with newest health risk. Although, me, I did give up a few $ to have good teammates, better location but I never had health risk. He’s making sure to cash in. something feels way off with Ravens mgt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Doc said: The difference is Miller proved to be back to an elite level after his injury. OBJ hasn't played at an elite level in 4+ years and didn't play a single down after tearing his ACL (again), so no one knows what to expect from him. Paying him that much is ridiculous. Never mind that the Ravens have a disgruntled QB and this is an attempt to placate him. To be fair, O'Dell looked great in that playoff run and Super Bowl for the Rams before the ACL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 1 hour ago, 4merper4mer said: If he is released any contract is net new. Arizona takes their own cap hit but the new team has to pay him. Ok. So then at this point, seeing what OBJ got, he would want to be released and double dip with whatever AZ owes him and then get on a new contract. Or sign with a contender for next to nothing because he's already going to get 19m (I think that was his cap hit this year). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 5 hours ago, chongli said: Funny how obviously this tweet is coming from the agent: "reachable incentives" and "negotiated by X." Makes me so angry when people apply the term "journalism" to sports news reports (as though a blatant shill job like this--not inherently immoral or anything like that, just clunky and transparent--is somehow representative of actual adult journalism). We all know it's just quid pro quo proxy statements authored by competing interes➖ Wait a minute... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Big Turk said: Most of the reason for having an agent and not doing it yourself is to have the agent act as a buffer from having to hear the team argue why they don't believe you deserve that money and try to minimize some of what you accomplished or explain it away... No matter how good the intentions are between the two sides, a player hearing this will always have some level of hurt feelings whereas he would not be privy to all the details and things that were said between the team and agent and the agent would soften whatever negative stuff was said plus he would be hearing it secondhand. This is the biggest issue with players trying to negotiate for themselves. They hear stuff they can never unhear from the team and they are human, it is going to effect their attitude and feelings towards the team in a negative manner. That's just one aspect and consequence of the negotiation process. I believe you are selling what agents do woefully short. Agents do this kind of work daily, are very adapt in the process, and often can get even more than a player expects. Lamar representing himself is a very very very poor move. His decision is really mind boggling. Is he really too cheap to pay a 1 to 3 percent fee to an agent? That's peanuts. Does he really think he can be a better negotiator than a skilled experienced agent? Come on now! The brunt of the blame shifts to Lamar. He put himself in this position and I feel no empathy for him. I believe a deal would have likely been made if he hired a skilled agent. A skilled agent could have had a chance to tell Lamar his demands aren't realistic. Instead, he has his mom patting him on the back. Edited April 10, 2023 by newcam2012 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 10 hours ago, JaCrispy said: So much for wanting to win a title…🤣🤣🤣 maybe it was the only offer ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 9 hours ago, Gunsgoodtime said: At 15m per salary I don't think he cares I don’t thinks either and the Ravens are desperately trying to get Lamar to accept a deal or make him happy on the tag. I other team I believe would’ve come up with this $. My only point is some have rushed out of the gate to be first and lay out $18 mil. That’s conditional on incentives and we do t even know what they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 My gut tells me that OBJ's agent leaked to NFL Network that OBJ to the Jets was close to a done deal pending a physical on Monday. Ravens may have gone all Jimmy Haslam and got desperate so they panicked to match his asking price of 15 million guaranteed. Glad he's not on the Jets on around an 8 million dollar deal like I assumed was going to happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Thank God! He was never coming here. A complete non-fit. Btw, Von, stfu! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 12 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: "Up to" $18M. Wonder how much of that is actual money. People on here weren't seeing how much he'd be asking. That's why he isn't here, IMO. As a player, he'd be a really good add. With his salary requests, not so much, maybe. Seems like a "Lamar, come back, see the shiny thing we got for you?" kind of a move to me. 15 million guaranteed with another 3 in reachable incentives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) I wonder if this signing prompts AB to start making noise about signing with a team? 🤔 * (In no way, shape, or form should this be construed as a 'Git'R'Dun, Beane!' thread reply.) Edited April 10, 2023 by Ridgewaycynic2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Von Miller, already a failed GM. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 8 hours ago, Since1981 said: I agree. He’s looking out for his own interests $$ with newest health risk. Although, me, I did give up a few $ to have good teammates, better location but I never had health risk. He’s making sure to cash in. something feels way off with Ravens mgt I hope people are getting close to putting to bed the idea that the ravens are still a very well run and managed organization. This was a huge overpay on their part and reeks of panic. OBJ took the money, which was smart. when a player at the end of his career finds a team willing to get stupid like that. It’s almost always a good idea to let them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 13 hours ago, Virgil said: I don’t get this at all, for either side. Is OBJ and Huntley supposed to make each other better? Pretty easy to get it from OBJ's side, 15mil. for one year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 12 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: I mean he clearly prioritized money even though its a 1 year prove it deal to try and get a multi-year deal next year. He won a SB already though in which he was a key player for that SB run and in the SB up until he got hurt. So he has his ring...don't blame him for taking the money over say taking much less to play for a contender. Plus he gets a big role there too. When you think about his knee issues, this might be his last big paycheck too, so getting as much as he can makes sense in case his knees don't cooperate with him. I mean, from Odell's perspective, this is the perfect deal. If he plays poorly, he's made his money. If injuries take him down, he's made his money. If he somehow, miraculously has an amazing season, north of 30, coming off an ACL, then he will make, you guessed it: more money. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 12 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Rivers made the playoffs 7 out of 16 season. Lamar made it every year if his career until he missed the rest of this year when they were the number 1 seed. Is Allen never going to win a SB because he hasn’t? Saying absolutes about young qbs, much less one who has a 70% winning %, is pretty stupid. Reading comprehension…, it was stated as :”similar” and no absolute statement was made, but that’s okay, i know you feel better know 😁👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 8 hours ago, SUNY_amherst said: Baltimore wants to win and the Bills are content where they are. Sad. They probably pass us in the AFC now too (KC, Cincy, Baltimore, soon to be Jets, all better) The Bills organization is very good but they just seem to fall short come playoff time. These next few years should really tell us a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 why is there always criticism for players signing for the most money? Everyone here would do the same thing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Weird deal all around. I guess it makes sense for OBJ from a purely financial perspective, but from a football perspective he picks a team without a QB proven to make receivers productive? Maybe he just likes purple? He did go to LSU… For the Ravens, I don’t get it at all. Health risk, QB questions…just an odd situation. Whatever. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Defense Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Very happy that the Bills didn't consider paying a past his prime receiver 15 million a year after tearing an ACL TWICE over the last few years, and before that a broken ankle. Not worth it. The Ravens would be much better with the TWO (needed) very good receivers they could have signed for that money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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