CTE Treatment

[peterpan]

I understand that at present, CTE can only be diagnosed during autopsy.
 

But, if a former football player is showing all the signs of a likely CTE diagnosis, is there any treatment that can prescribed?  

 

 

[Gugny]

2 minutes ago, peterpan said:

I understand that at present, CTE can only be diagnosed during autopsy.
 

But, if a former football player is showing all the signs of a likely CTE diagnosis, is there any treatment that can prescribed?  

 

 

“Rub a little dirt in it and get back in there.”

- Mike McDaniel

[gonzo1105]

Nope, it’s irreversible damage. My guess is there is management of symptoms but there is no cure for it. 
 

The medical field barely knows how the brain or the central nervous system works. There are so many syndromes that are supposedly idiopathic. Idiopathic just means they don’t know how it happens and is a fancy way to make you feel better about yourself. Most of them are most certainly either a brain or nervous system malfunction. 

[major]

21 minutes ago, peterpan said:

I understand that at present, CTE can only be diagnosed during autopsy.
 

But, if a former football player is showing all the signs of a likely CTE diagnosis, is there any treatment that can prescribed?  

 

 

Can’t think of any treatment available. It seems that the nfl, players, and most fans don’t want to discuss this anymore. NFL doesn’t want to discuss because they don’t want to lose 💰. They could care less about players health (immediate or long term). Players don’t want to talk about it because let’s face it, most of us don’t want to think about our health issues either, so we ignore while it gets worse. And fans don’t want to think about it because that might ruin their fun. 

[Victory Formation]

Tackling technique could go a long way in preventing CTE, but sometimes hits cannot be avoided. Recognizing minor concussions and holding players out until they fully recuperate may help as well. Take Tua for example, had Miami followed proper protocol he may not be in the mess he’s in today.

[djp14150]

1 hour ago, peterpan said:

I understand that at present, CTE can only be diagnosed during autopsy.
 

But, if a former football player is showing all the signs of a likely CTE diagnosis, is there any treatment that can prescribed?  

 

 

Nope…..maybe Alzheimer’s and dementia research/ treatments/cures could lead to a possible treatment.

[BigAl2526]

I think that the medical profession is very early in its research to define and understand this condition, to say nothing of treating it.  Conditions affecting the brain are notoriously difficult to treat because when brain cells die, they're gone permanently.  The remaining cells can produce new synapses (connections) to recover some lost functions but the brain's capacity to do this is limited.  Success in rehabilitation in conditions like stroke so depends how mild or severe the damage is.

[Buffalo Junction]

There are some studies that show increases in neuroplasticity with treatments of psychedelics. It’s very early in the research stage thanks to the schedule 1 legality issues. There are some notable examples of former fighters, solders, etc using psychedelics to help cure depression, ptsd, and other problems which are often symptoms of CTE. I’d have to look for more information, but there’s a bunch of literature one can dig through. 

[Michael1962]

I have had some results with growth hormone secretagogues with any non-healing process in the body.  The brand I have used is Meditropin from Nutraceutics.  It is not likely to be a complete cure but in some patients it may help.

[T master]

12 hours ago, Gugny said:

“Rub a little dirt in it and get back in there.”

- Mike McDaniel

 

Either that or mom's spit can fix anything too just a little spit on mom's finger rub it & were all good !! 

[billsfanmiamioh]

9 hours ago, Buffalo Junction said:

There are some studies that show increases in neuroplasticity with treatments of psychedelics. It’s very early in the research stage thanks to the schedule 1 legality issues. There are some notable examples of former fighters, solders, etc using psychedelics to help cure depression, ptsd, and other problems which are often symptoms of CTE. I’d have to look for more information, but there’s a bunch of literature one can dig through. 

Hopkins and a bunch of other major research institutions are doing studies on this. Pretty interesting stuff. 

[Matt_In_NH]

Its not CTE, its a back injury

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

3 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:

Its not CTE, its a back injury

 

For the super bad fans... 

 

Funny thing about my back is its located on my...

[nosejob]

1 hour ago, Michael1962 said:

I have had some results with growth hormone secretagogues with any non-healing process in the body.  The brand I have used is Meditropin from Nutraceutics.  It is not likely to be a complete cure but in some patients it may help.

Thanks, I gotta look into that.

[Don Otreply]

13 hours ago, peterpan said:

I understand that at present, CTE can only be diagnosed during autopsy.
 

But, if a former football player is showing all the signs of a likely CTE diagnosis, is there any treatment that can prescribed?  

 

 

Not much to be done about it at present, the players are basically screwed when it comes to CTE, that’s a big reason why the league keeps it hush hush, and wants no part of any responsibility concerning it. 

[billsfan89]

4 hours ago, Don Otreply said:

Not much to be done about it at present, the players are basically screwed when it comes to CTE, that’s a big reason why the league keeps it hush hush, and wants no part of any responsibility concerning it. 

 

It's why more and more players are retiring earlier. through the 2000's it was pretty common to see a player play 10-12+ years in the league at most positions. Now players seemingly retire after about 8 or so years. 

[Augie]

16 hours ago, Buffalo Junction said:

There are some studies that show increases in neuroplasticity with treatments of psychedelics. It’s very early in the research stage thanks to the schedule 1 legality issues. There are some notable examples of former fighters, solders, etc using psychedelics to help cure depression, ptsd, and other problems which are often symptoms of CTE. I’d have to look for more information, but there’s a bunch of literature one can dig through. 

 

I’ve seen something about that! Maybe on 60 Minutes? It was a bit shocking. I think they also used it effectively in some cases to battle addictions. 

 

It amazes me how we think we are so advanced in so many ways, but we don’t know basic things about how our own brains work. (Or what kind of aliens can be found at the bottom of the ocean! 😋)

[Buffalo Junction]

1 hour ago, Augie said:

 

I’ve seen something about that! Maybe on 60 Minutes? It was a bit shocking. I think they also used it effectively in some cases to battle addictions. 

 

It amazes me how we think we are so advanced in so many ways, but we don’t know basic things about how our own brains work. (Or what kind of aliens can be found at the bottom of the ocean! 😋)

Probably didn’t help that no one was allowed to research any of this for decades lest their patients brains get cracked into a hot skillet like and egg. 🤪 

[Augie]

13 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said:

Probably didn’t help that no one was allowed to research any of this for decades lest their patients brains get cracked into a hot skillet like and egg. 🤪 

 

Great! Now I’m hungry! 😂 

 

I remember the brain on drugs commercials. Despite everything else. 

[Chaos]

28 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said:

Probably didn’t help that no one was allowed to research any of this for decades lest their patients brains get cracked into a hot skillet like and egg. 🤪 

No truth to this at all. 

[gonzo1105]

1 hour ago, Buffalo Junction said:

Probably didn’t help that no one was allowed to research any of this for decades lest their patients brains get cracked into a hot skillet like and egg. 🤪 

Chris Nowinski a former WWE wrestler and Harvard Grad is the top researcher in CTE 

2 hours ago, Augie said:

 

I’ve seen something about that! Maybe on 60 Minutes? It was a bit shocking. I think they also used it effectively in some cases to battle addictions. 

 

It amazes me how we think we are so advanced in so many ways, but we don’t know basic things about how our own brains work. (Or what kind of aliens can be found at the bottom of the ocean! 😋)

I agree that the medical industry has come a long way but we still have a very long way to go particularly with the brain, nervous system, genetics, and gut health affecting other areas of the body 

[The Wiz]

From what I understand about CTE, which is very little, I can only assume fixing CTE its the same as trying to make a bruised apple perfect again.

[Punching Bag]

On 3/8/2023 at 10:21 PM, gonzo1105 said:

Nope, it’s irreversible damage. My guess is there is management of symptoms but there is no cure for it. 
 

The medical field barely knows how the brain or the central nervous system works. There are so many syndromes that are supposedly idiopathic. Idiopathic just means they don’t know how it happens and is a fancy way to make you feel better about yourself. Most of them are most certainly either a brain or nervous system malfunction. 

 

In many ways medicine is an art not a science.  I went to 8 different doctors for issue with my foot and got 8 different diagnoses all wrong including one by a quack that it was psychosomatic (I did not pay that bill).  In last diagnosis doctor thought it was plantar and put me in a boot which almost disabled me. He said that should not happen and had a MRI done on foot and a cyst the size of a golf ball in my ankle was found and removed.

 

That was a strictly physical issue and specialists could not determine issue.  With brain they are dealing with organ which has a lot of issue healing and whose operation in many cases is just speculation.

[nosejob]

As someone who indulged in mushrooms in the early 80's, I can absolutely see how this is connected to much needed neurological research. I believe it can help,(albeit at low dosages). I've also always believed that pot can achieve similar results and why I have believed in the medical aspect of it. Don't judge me, but I think mushrooms....sorry can't spell cyliisybin will be the next big break through for dementia, alzhiemers and perhaps concussion related problems.

 

I cannot count how many I've had, but when I worked for Uncle Sam the word concussion didn't exist...at all. It was smelling salts and , how many fingers? He's fine go back to work. Now I'm 59 and am a bit worried...kinda scared actually. Something ain't right.

Edited March 10, 2023 by nosejob

[Buffalo Junction]

17 hours ago, Chaos said:

No truth to this at all. 

If you have more information than me feel free to share with the group. Lord knows I’m not an expert on testing drugs. 
 

“Starting in 1966, several states banned their use. In 1968 LSD was outlawed nationwide, and in 1970 Congress passed the Controlled Substances Act, classifying that drug and psilocybin, along with several others, as having a high potential for abuse and no accepted medical use.”

 

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/johns-hopkins-scientists-give-psychedelics-the-serious-treatment/

[In Summary]

This is why I'm perplexed we don't talk more seriously about the Bills center position as if one can just assume Mitch has it taken care of. 6 concussions in 8 years. One more and we look a bit like the Dolphins rolling out Tua yet one more time. 

[Chaos]

2 hours ago, Buffalo Junction said:

If you have more information than me feel free to share with the group. Lord knows I’m not an expert on testing drugs. 
 

“Starting in 1966, several states banned their use. In 1968 LSD was outlawed nationwide, and in 1970 Congress passed the Controlled Substances Act, classifying that drug and psilocybin, along with several others, as having a high potential for abuse and no accepted medical use.”

 

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/johns-hopkins-scientists-give-psychedelics-the-serious-treatment/

Use and research are different things. 

[Buffalo Junction]

1 hour ago, Chaos said:

Use and research are different things. 

They are. Once again…. If you have a link to any clinical research performed In the USA between the Nixon and Bush II presidencies feel free to post it.