dollars 2 donuts Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) I don’t have all the facts, I just have my memory and loose discussion of a criteria which isn’t researched a whole lot, so take it worth a grain of salt, if you will. First, the Bills own legacy of this happening in their history. I was there in 1980 when the Bills beat the defending super champion and AFC champion Pittsburgh Steelers, and then a few weeks later when they beat the defending NFC Champion L.A. Rams. So in 1980 was the last time the Bills played both conference and super bowl champs and also won. If the Bills beat Cincy on Monday they will do it again, but both games will have been on the road. I am not sure whether that has ever happened before in the NFL in the regular season. Any research buffs please feel free to correct me, as again I am not sure. I just think that, either way, it is pretty darn impressive. Go Bills! Edited December 28, 2022 by dollars 2 donuts 2 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkwwjd Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) Been done before, just not by the Bills https://www.arrowheadpride.com/platform/amp/2015/1/28/7927399/how-many-times-has-a-team-beaten-both-super-bowl-teams Edited December 28, 2022 by pkwwjd 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted December 28, 2022 Author Share Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, pkwwjd said: Been done before, just not by the Bills https://www.arrowheadpride.com/platform/amp/2015/1/28/7927399/how-many-times-has-a-team-beaten-both-super-bowl-teams Awesome. Thank you, Sir. Now lets have the Bills add to that! EDIT: @pkwwjd However, from the link even though it has happened 18 times, it doesn't show home or away. Edited December 28, 2022 by dollars 2 donuts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Nice job. We’ll talk more Tuesday, hopefully, about this. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 With the big ups and downs from year to year among NFL teams, this isn't necessarily as big an accomplishment as it may seem at first blush. We were so proud of that Week 1 pounding of the Rams despite giving the ball away 4 times and having LOTS of thing to clean up...and yet the Rams have proven THIS YEAR to be a lousy team. The Bengals are still quite good so that situation is different. The REAL accomplishment would be to beat the 2 AFC and NFC champion teams in the year they become champions. Especially if done on the road! Of course, that would be impossible to do if we ourselves are the AFC conference champion this year! So there's that too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Let’s hope! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted December 28, 2022 Author Share Posted December 28, 2022 16 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: With the big ups and downs from year to year among NFL teams, this isn't necessarily as big an accomplishment as it may seem at first blush. We were so proud of that Week 1 pounding of the Rams despite giving the ball away 4 times and having LOTS of thing to clean up...and yet the Rams have proven THIS YEAR to be a lousy team. The Bengals are still quite good so that situation is different. The REAL accomplishment would be to beat the 2 AFC and NFC champion teams in the year they become champions. Especially if done on the road! Of course, that would be impossible to do if we ourselves are the AFC conference champion this year! So there's that too. True. Again, I am trying to find out how many times it has been done where both games are road games. I've written a question to the author from pkw's link above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 It we played the 49ers we would have beaten all 4 teams in the conference championships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 We beat the Super Bowl Champion Jets in their Super Season! (but that’s the ONLY game we won that year..🤦♂️) We beat all 3 Super Bowl teams who beat us in the big game in ‘93! (only to lose the the cowboys again…🤦♂️) We beat the AFC Champion Broncos in Biscuit’s 1st ever game as a Bill in ‘87! (during a year with replacement players strike…🤦♂️) So yeah, I don’t put much thought into this.. 🤦♂️ 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 only care about them beating this year's NFC Champions. 3 3 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaenon Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 None of it matters. Winning the Super Bowl is all that matters. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Well, they're 100% making history with one thing - The combined win total of 23 wins is the highest in history for a MNF game. Bills 12-3 vs Bengals 11-4 is the most ever between 2 teams for a MNF game. 3 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, BigDingus said: Well, they're 100% making history with one thing - The combined win total of 23 wins is the highest in history for a MNF game. Bills 12-3 vs Bengals 11-4 is the most ever between 2 teams for a MNF game. Bills are 21-29 all time on MNF Bengals are 12-26 so 33 for total. Maybe a record too?? Edited December 28, 2022 by cba fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, cba fan said: Bills are 21-29 all time on MNF Bengals are 12-26 so 33 I meant their season record. Bills have 12 wins, Bengals have 11 wins, so combined they have 23 wins. I shared the video at the point where they discuss it. Edited December 28, 2022 by BigDingus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshynman Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 hour ago, TheWeatherMan said: It we played the 49ers we would have beaten all 4 teams in the conference championships. We may have to beat them in the SB this year! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Allen is his best when the lights are on. I’m confident. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PonyBoy Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 4 hours ago, BigDingus said: Well, they're 100% making history with one thing - The combined win total of 23 wins is the highest in history for a MNF game. Bills 12-3 vs Bengals 11-4 is the most ever between 2 teams for a MNF game. Didn't require the 17th game to do this either. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 10 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said: I don’t have all the facts, I just have my memory and loose discussion of a criteria which isn’t researched a whole lot, so take it worth a grain of salt, if you will. First, the Bills own legacy of this happening in their history. I was there in 1980 when the Bills beat the defending super champion and AFC champion Pittsburgh Steelers, and then a few weeks later when they beat the defending NFC Champion L.A. Rams. So in 1980 was the last time the Bills played both conference and super bowl champs and also won. If the Bills beat Cincy on Monday they will do it again, but both games will have been on the road. I am not sure whether that has ever happened before in the NFL in the regular season. Any research buffs please feel free to correct me, as again I am not sure. I just think that, either way, it is pretty darn impressive. Go Bills! what a year that was beating the fins for first time in a decade, stopping the one for the thumb and than beating the Rams with a FG to end the game in sleet and ice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted December 29, 2022 Author Share Posted December 29, 2022 Just now, Xwnyer said: what a year that was beating the fins for first time in a decade, stopping the one for the thumb and than beating the Rams with a FG to end the game in sleet and ice Xwnyer, I just remember being so over the top happy as a kid. 1 minute ago, Xwnyer said: what a year that was beating the fins for first time in a decade, stopping the one for the thumb and than beating the Rams with a FG to end the game in sleet and ice Just now, dollars 2 donuts said: Xwnyer, I just remember being so over the top happy as a kid. oh, and being the only undefeated team in the nfl at 5-0 by going to to San Diego and beating their 4-0 a**es! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 (edited) 23 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said: I am not sure whether that has ever happened before in the NFL in the regular season. Any research buffs please feel free to correct me, as again I am not sure. Okay, I did the deep dive... 1974 season Miami (SBC) @ Patriots Patriots @ Vikings (NFCC) 1 home, 1 away 1977 season Raiders (SBC) @ Rams Vikings (NFCC) @ Rams 2 home 1978 season Broncos (AFCC) @ Vikings Vikings @ Cowboys (SBC) 1 home, 1 away 1979 season Steelers (SBC) @ Eagles Steelers (SBC) @ Oilers Eagles @ Cowboys (NFCC) Oilers @ Cowboys (NFCC) 2 home, 2 away 1980 season Steelers (SBC) @ Bills Rams (NFCC) @ Bills 2 home 1982 season Chargers @ 49ers (SBC) Bengals (AFCC) @ Chargers 1 home, 1 away 1985 season 49ers (SBC) @ Lions Dolphins (AFCC) @ Lions 2 home 1987 season Giants (SBC) @ Bills Broncos (AFCC) @ Bills 2 home 1992 season Raiders @ Redskins (SBC) Bills (AFCC) @ Raiders 1 home, 1 away 1993 season Dolphins @ Cowboys (SBC) Dolphins @ Bills (AFCC) 2 away 1994 season Lions @ Cowboys (SBC) Bills (AFCC) @ Lions 1 home, 1 away 1999 season Broncos (SBC) @ Buccaneers Falcons (NFCC) @ Buccaneers Broncos (SBC) @ Jaguars Falcons (NFCC) @ Jaguars 4 home 2001 season Ravens (SBC) @ Packers Packers @ Giants (NFCC) 1 home, 1 away 2002 season Broncos @ Patriots (SBC) Rams (NFCC) @ Broncos 1 home, 1 away 2003 season Packers @ Buccaneers (SBC) Packers @ Raiders (AFCC) Buccaneers (SBC) @ Titans Raiders (AFCC) @ Titans 2 home, 2 away 2005 season Patriots (SBC) @ Broncos Eagles (NFCC) @ Broncos 2 home 2006 season Steelers (SBC) @ Chargers Chargers @ Seahawks (NFCC) 1 home, 1 away 2007 season Colts (SBC) @ Chargers Bears (NFCC) @ Chargers 2 home 2012 season Giants (SBC) @ Ravens Patriots (AFCC) @ Ravens 2 home 2014 season Seahawks (SBC) @ Rams Broncos (AFCC) @ Rams 2 home 2016 season Broncos (SBC) @ Raiders Panthers (NFCC) @ Raiders Falcons @ Broncos (SBC) Falcons @ Panthers (NFCC) Panthers (NFCC) @ Falcons Chiefs @ Panthers (NFCC) Chiefs @ Broncos (SBC) Broncos (SBC) @ Chiefs 4 home, 4 away 2017 season Patriots (SBC) @ Dolphins Dolphins @ Falcons (NFCC) Panthers @ Patriots (SBC) Falcons (NFCC) @ Panthers 2 home, 2 away 2018 season Eagles (SBC) @ Titans Patriots (AFCC) @ Titans 2 home 2019 season Patriots (SBC) @ Ravens Ravens @ Rams (NFCC) 1 home, 1 away 2022 season* Cowboys @ Rams (SBC) Bengals (AFCC) @ Cowboys 1 home, 1 away (*season not completed yet) So there you have it, an away team has beaten both SB teams in the same season just four times so far. Your grand totals are, home teams 42, away team 22 Edited December 29, 2022 by Just Jack 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said: oh, and being the only undefeated team in the nfl at 5-0 by going to to San Diego and beating their 4-0 a**es! Unfortunately, we lost to them in the playoffs, on the road! That year was like 1993. We beat Dallas in the regular season, only to lose to them in the SB. [FYI: under today's rules, we would have played Cleveland in the 1980 divisionals, not San Diego.] Edited December 29, 2022 by chongli 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 16 minutes ago, Just Jack said: 1993 season Dolphins @ Cowboys (SBC) Thanks for doing all this research! The Dolphins in 1993 got super lucky beating the Cowboys, thanks to Leon Lett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasBB Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 15 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said: So in 1980 was the last time the Bills played both conference and super bowl champs and also won. That 1980 Bills team was a legit Super Bowl contender. The 20-14 loss to the Chargers in the divisional round was tough because I believe Bills would have advanced to the SB if they just could have gotten past this game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 How bout beating both Super Bowl teams on the road and the last 3 MVPs in 1 season(Mahomes, Lamar, Rodgers back to back).😜 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 33 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: How bout beating both Super Bowl teams on the road and the last 3 MVPs in 1 season(Mahomes, Lamar, Rodgers back to back).😜 -AND the Conference’s 2 runner ups from last season! This could be realized Monday night! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted December 29, 2022 Author Share Posted December 29, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Just Jack said: Okay, I did the deep dive... 1974 season Miami (SBC) @ Patriots Patriots @ Vikings (NFCC) 1 home, 1 away 1977 season Raiders (SBC) @ Rams Vikings (NFCC) @ Rams 2 home 1978 season Broncos (AFCC) @ Vikings Vikings @ Cowboys (SBC) 1 home, 1 away 1979 season Steelers (SBC) @ Eagles Steelers (SBC) @ Oilers Eagles (NFCC) @ Cowboys Oilers @ Cowboys (NFCC) 2 home, 2 away 1980 season Steelers (SBC) @ Bills Rams (NFCC) @ Bills 2 home 1982 season Chargers @ 49ers (SBC) Bengals (AFCC) @ Chargers 1 home, 1 away 1985 season 49ers (SBC) @ Lions Dolphins (AFCC) @ Lions 2 home 1987 season Giants (SBC) @ Bills Broncos (AFCC) @ Bills 2 home 1992 season Raiders @ Redskins (SBC) Bills (AFCC) @ Raiders 1 home, 1 away 1993 season Dolphins @ Cowboys (SBC) Dolphins @ Bills (AFCC) 2 away 1994 season Lions @ Cowboys (SBC) Bills (AFCC) @ Lions 1 home, 1 away 1999 season Broncos (SBC) @ Buccaneers Falcons (NFCC) @ Buccaneers Broncos (SBC) @ Jaguars Falcons (NFCC) @ Jaguars 4 home 2001 season Ravens (SBC) @ Packers Packers @ Giants (NFCC) 1 home, 1 away 2002 season Broncos @ Patriots (SBC) Rams (NFCC) @ Broncos 1 home, 1 away 2003 season Packers @ Buccaneers (SBC) Packers @ Raiders (AFCC) Buccaneers (SBC) @ Titans Raiders (AFCC) @ Titans 2 home, 2 away 2005 season Patriots (SBC) @ Broncos Eagles (NFCC) @ Broncos 2 home 2006 season Steelers (SBC) @ Chargers Chargers @ Seahawks (NFCC) 1 home, 1 away 2007 season Colts (SBC) @ Chargers Bears (NFCC) @ Chargers 2 home 2012 season Giants (SBC) @ Ravens Patriots (AFCC) @ Ravens 2 home 2014 season Seahawks (SBC) @ Rams Broncos (AFCC) @ Rams 2 home 2016 season Broncos (SBC) @ Raiders Panthers (NFCC) @ Raiders Falcons @ Broncos (SBC) Falcons @ Panthers (NFCC) Panthers (NFCC) @ Falcons Chiefs @ Panthers (NFCC) Chiefs @ Broncos (SBC) Broncos (SBC) @ Chiefs 4 home, 4 away 2017 season Patriots (SBC) @ Dolphins Dolphins @ Falcons (NFCC) Panthers @ Patriots (SBC) Falcons (NFCC) @ Panthers 2 home, 2 away 2018 season Eagles (SBC) @ Titans Patriots (AFCC) @ Titans 2 home 2019 season Patriots (SBC) @ Ravens Ravens @ Rams (NFCC) 1 home, 1 away 2022 season* Cowboys @ Rams (SBC) Bengals (AFCC) @ Cowboys 1 home, 1 away (*season not completed yet) So there you have it, an away team has beaten both SB teams in the same season just four times so far. Your grand totals are, home teams 42, away team 22 JJ you are rock star. Thank you, Sir. 7 hours ago, chongli said: Unfortunately, we lost to them in the playoffs, on the road! That year was like 1993. We beat Dallas in the regular season, only to lose to them in the SB. [FYI: under today's rules, we would have played Cleveland in the 1980 divisionals, not San Diego.] chongli, don’t forget fergy was sadly playing on a broken ankle. playing. On. A. Broken. Ankle. Man, that is crazy. 7 hours ago, ChasBB said: That 1980 Bills team was a legit Super Bowl contender. The 20-14 loss to the Chargers in the divisional round was tough because I believe Bills would have advanced to the SB if they just could have gotten past this game. Legit rub, 2 wrs, excellent and youthful d, and veteran qb. As I said earlier fergie’s broken ankle did them in. What is worse? given the raiders upset of Cleveland the afc championship game, had the bills beat SD, would have been in Buffalo. Edited December 29, 2022 by dollars 2 donuts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 15 hours ago, Nextmanup said: With the big ups and downs from year to year among NFL teams, this isn't necessarily as big an accomplishment as it may seem at first blush. We were so proud of that Week 1 pounding of the Rams despite giving the ball away 4 times and having LOTS of thing to clean up...and yet the Rams have proven THIS YEAR to be a lousy team. Yea... but that is because they lost their left tackle week 1, their right guard and starting safety in week 4, their left guard in week 5, their Quarterback and their #1 receiver from week 10, their nose tackle from week 12, their #2 receiver from week 13.... and then eventually their best defensive player too. I'm not saying the Rams would have been repeat Champions or anything but they are lousy because half their starters went down for the year. They had basically everyone except their #3 receiver when the Bills beat them week 1. That was still a very good win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 In 1994 the Bills beat the 3 previous Superbowl champs. Of course it was the Bills who made them champs in the first place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 3 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said: chongli, don’t forget fergy was sadly playing on a broken ankle. playing. On. A. Broken. Ankle. Man, that is crazy. Yeah, it was an amazing season. It was what drew me to the Bills as a child. The thing that drives me crazy is we had that game won, despite the broken ankle. But Ron Smith scored a dramatic 50-yard TD in the last minute or so to let the Chargers win the game 20-14. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF Bills Fan Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 I’ll make history as a man that survives 20 heart attacks within a 3 hour timeframe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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