gjv Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Frazier certainly has earned another opportunity to be a HC. However. on a selfish note, I would like him to stay as the Bills DC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 17 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Ask Denver how that offensive mind is working out...lol McD called timeout before both plays and is equally complicit in the 13 second debacle Yes, in a way that was the worst part. Not Heard during timeout “Whose got Kelce?!” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Frazier would be a good choice for a team that is a hot mess and needs an adult running things. He could have been good for the Texans or Jax past years. I think the Bills defense would be fine without him. Maybe we would actually stop a 3rd and long every once in a while. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 20 minutes ago, DapperCam said: Frazier would be a good choice for a team that is a hot mess and needs an adult running things. He could have been good for the Texans or Jax past years. I think the Bills defense would be fine without him. Maybe we would actually stop a 3rd and long every once in a while. Agree with the bolded. The Bills are not going to be bad on defense while we have McDermott here, but I do think Frazier is one of the best DCs in football. They are big shoes to fill, though we do at least have Eric Washington on staff who has done it before (though wasn't super successful) with the Panthers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 (edited) I think we have the most talent in the NFL on defense and I don’t even think anyone is close. We have so many stars on that side of the ball and our depth is incredible. We should be a defense that dominates and dictates. Even when the stats are good, it never feels that way. We have the personnel to be one of the all time defenses IMO. 85 bears, 00 Ravens etc. I want Fraizer to get a HC job so badly. This guys passive aggressive shell is holding us back in so many ways. I have wanted McDermott to just take over the defense for 3 years. If any team wants to hire this guy, I’m sure most Bills fans will be willing to give glowing references. Get him out please. Edited December 9, 2022 by Brianmoorman4jesus 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 this thread just has it's freshness dating taped over every season about this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 19 hours ago, Sgt. Ski said: Hope we can get swartz back. Schwartz truly emphasized getting to the QB. When was here, we had guys who could rush the QB. Alas, then came Ryan who dismantled the wide 9 for his crappy D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 19 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I think Ken Dorsey would make a way better HC IMO. Any chance he is Native American or Latino? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethro_tull Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 If you go by past history, a very small percentage of coordinators who are previously fired head coaches are successful at their second head coaching job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Frazier is definitely not HC material. He will be 2 or 3 years and out and back to being a DC. I hope they have Vegas odds on this because I would put 10,000$ down on it. 23 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said: I think Ken Dorsey would make a way better HC IMO. Any chance he is Native American or Latino? What if he is 30% Latino? Do we still get a 3rd rd pick or a 6th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Triangle Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said: You are not winning many road playoff games in this era with 19 points. That is the sad truth. The defense missed some chances to make plays that hurt, no question. But they were playing a top Quarterback on the road and gave up 22. I have a hard time pinning that loss on defense. The offense was not good that day, but allowing the opposing QB to complete 80% of his passes is just bad. 13 seconds aside, the defense was an abomination against KC in the preceding and subsequent drives. 1 hour ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I think we have the most talent in the NFL on defense and I don’t even think anyone is close. We have so many stars on that side of the ball and our depth is incredible. We should be a defense that dominates and dictates. Even when the stats are good, it never feels that way. We have the personnel to be one of the all time defenses IMO. 85 bears, 00 Ravens etc. I want Fraizer to get a HC job so badly. This guys passive aggressive shell is holding us back in so many ways. I have wanted McDermott to just take over the defense for 3 years. If any team wants to hire this guy, I’m sure most Bills fans will be willing to give glowing references. Get him out please. 5 first and second rounds picks on the DL, 1 first rounder at LB and 2 first round picks at CB. Miller or no Miller, there should be no excuses made for this defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I think we have the most talent in the NFL on defense and I don’t even think anyone is close. We have so many stars on that side of the ball and our depth is incredible. We should be a defense that dominates and dictates. Even when the stats are good, it never feels that way. We have the personnel to be one of the all time defenses IMO. 85 bears, 00 Ravens etc. I want Fraizer to get a HC job so badly. This guys passive aggressive shell is holding us back in so many ways. I have wanted McDermott to just take over the defense for 3 years. If any team wants to hire this guy, I’m sure most Bills fans will be willing to give glowing references. Get him out please. Yea your problem is you don't like his style of defense. Well guess what, it isn't changing even if Frazier goes. This is what the Bills run and it is the right type of scheme for modern NFL football. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Bye bye. Getting real sick of his bend but dont break gameplans against bad QBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Every time I’ve heard Frazier interviewed I’ve been super impressed by his demeanor and speaking ability (remember, it’s a job interview)…but I think his age will work against him. Most teams seem like they are looking for a younger coach to build around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 21 hours ago, PetermansRedemption said: I still have a strong distaste for Frazier due to the 13 seconds. I wouldn’t mind seeing him gone. Especially if the Bills pick up a pick in the process. I always feel like Frazier’s defenses are a paper Tiger. Ranked high but fold when it really matters. Yeah, yeah, we know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 21 hours ago, PetermansRedemption said: I still have a strong distaste for Frazier due to the 13 seconds. I wouldn’t mind seeing him gone. Especially if the Bills pick up a pick in the process. I always feel like Frazier’s defenses are a paper Tiger. Ranked high but fold when it really matters. It actually warms my heart and I laugh every time someone like you STILL expresses frustration over that. What a miserable lot your group is. Enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 21 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I would guess that it is Eric Washington but I’d give a good look at the secondary coach Have to agree with this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Yea your problem is you don't like his style of defense. Well guess what, it isn't changing even if Frazier goes. This is what the Bills run and it is the right type of scheme for modern NFL football. Not every team in the league runs the same defense. Teams are much more aggressive and I believe our own HC would be considerably more aggressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Not every team in the league runs the same defense. Teams are much more aggressive and I believe our own HC would be considerably more aggressive. Correct. But the better defenses in the NFL in this era are the ones that keep the game in front of them and force teams to try and play mistake free football. In what way do you believe McDermott would be more aggressive? Let's talk Xs and Os. What do you think he would do if he was the DC on this team that Leslie Frazier doesn't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 1 - it’s wild how much hate Frazier gets when we have constantly had top 5 defenses since his arrival. Obviously, McDermott is a huge reason why but Frazier also deserves credit. 2 - he seems like one of the nicest, most genuine guys in the nfl. I would love to play for him. However the only way I think he will be successful as a coach is to go to a team with an established QB: OC where he just needs to worry about the defense. Can’t see him doing good with a young QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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