NY Jets at Buffalo Bills, Sunday Dec 11 at 1 pm

[Beck Water]

Not sure if the betting odds thread is desired as the game week thread, wasn't obvious to me

 

Let's let Dion Dawkins start off the crazies

 

Does anyone know when we hear from McDermott and the coordinators?  Would normally hear Monday after a Sunday game.

 

Stuff I wanna know:

1) Bills Injury report.  I think Gilliam was reported to not be taking ST snaps (or any snaps) in the 2nd half of the NE game.

Front and Center: what is the status of Dion Dawkins ANKLE?  Have we all been holding prayer vigils/sending "Get Well" cards?

How about Quessenberry?  Even if Dion can go, unless he's healed up we're one bad snap away from....Bobby Hart?

 

Who else are we worried about? 

 

2) Jets Injury report.  Quinnen Williams left the game at least briefly yesterday.   Sometimes guys "play through" an injury that keeps them out when it stiffens up and swells.  Anyone else?

 

3) Marquez Stevenson Watch.  Has to be activated December 7 or placed on season-ending IR, I believe.

[Beck Water]

OK more injuries to get updates on:

In addition to Dawkins and Quessenberry, Jordan Phillips.

 

 

[Aussie Joe]

2 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

OK more injuries to get updates on:

In addition to Dawkins and Quessenberry, Jordan Phillips.

 

 

I can update you now… Day to Day

[Beck Water]

Preview of Jets at Bills (among others)
Will come out in 4 hrs

 

 

3 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

I can update you now… Day to Day

 

I would actually be happy to hear "Day to Day".   I'm concerned for the dread high-ankle-sprain "week to week"

[Beck Water]

10 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

OK more injuries to get updates on:

In addition to Dawkins and Quessenberry, Jordan Phillips.

 

 

 

Here's the thing I found on Gilliam:

 

Gilliam is a regular on ST, taking 80-85% of the ST snaps.  And the Bills are known to keep players on ST when they're too injured to play on O or D.  So I think he got hurt.

 

In other news, Hamlin not to be suspended for the Jakobi Meyers hit, but he could be fined (SO bogus):

 

 

[BruceVilanch]

Me and my dad are flying in from Oregon for this game, can't wait! Go Bills!

[Beck Water]

Just now, Royale with Cheese said:

Possible rain and snow.  Cheetah's aren't fast in snow.

 

No Cheetahs on the Jets?

[Beck Water]

 

[Royale with Cheese]

10 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

No Cheetahs on the Jets?

 

UGH...this was supposed to go to the Dolphins thread.

[Mango]

A lot of Dolphins chatter. 

This is an easily winnable game. But if the Bills don't show up to play a highly physical game they stand a chance of getting punched in the mouth for an unexpected L. That Jets defense is no joke and (I can't believe I am saying this) Mike White can get hot at times. 

 

Keep the turnovers down and play the sticks and we should walk away with this one. 

[Warriorspikes51]

If we play with the same attitude we did against the Pats....then we should win 

[Chandler#81]

 

[Chandler#81]

 

[RiotAct]

my knee-jerk diagnosis on the couch for Quinnen Williams was a concussion, the way the Vikings player ran into his head when he was engaged with the blocker.

Edited December 5, 2022 by RiotAct

[Slippery Rubber Mats]

5 minutes ago, RiotAct said:

my knee-jerk diagnosis on the couch for Quinnen Williams was a concussion, the way the Vikings player ran into his head when he was engaged with the blocker.

 

I'm going to go ahead and rule him out now, no take-backs

[Greg S]

No surprise White is starting but look who is inactive for a 3rd straight week. That #2 pick the Jets are building their team around is working out fantastic.

 

 

(9) Antwan V. Staley on Twitter: "Robert Saleh says Zach Wilson will be inactive against the Bills on Sunday. Mike White will start and Joe Flacco will be the Jets backup" / Twitter

[Mango]

1 minute ago, Greg S said:

No surprise White is starting but look who is inactive for a 3rd straight week. That #2 pick the Jets are building their team around is working out fantastic.

 

 

(9) Antwan V. Staley on Twitter: "Robert Saleh says Zach Wilson will be inactive against the Bills on Sunday. Mike White will start and Joe Flacco will be the Jets backup" / Twitter

 

Missing on the QB sucks. But Sauce Gardner showed up to the league and was a stud on day 1. I am not thrilled to have him in the division and I certainly don't want the Jets finding anybody competent to line up behind center. 

[RocCityRoller]

32 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

 

I love the old AFCE slobber knockers from the late 70's-80's

[Greg S]

Just now, Mango said:

 

Missing on the QB sucks. But Sauce Gardner showed up to the league and was a stud on day 1. I am not thrilled to have him in the division and I certainly don't want the Jets finding anybody competent to line up behind center. 

 

They get a QB or if White turns out to be the real going forward then they will be a problem to deal with.

[Mango]

Just now, Greg S said:

 

They get a QB or if White turns out to be the real going forward then they will be a problem to deal with.

 

 

I think there have been rumors that Jimmy G has a "no franchise tag" clause and is basically set to be a Jet next year. Barring Mike White becoming the guy anyways. 

I am admittedly higher on JG than most. The league is hurting for QB play, he isn't good enough, but more often he is an upgrade. Heinicke is a guy I would chase in the offseason if I were them. Better QB play flips at least one of their Pats games alone. With that they would be right back in the conversation at 8-4 and in second in the division heading into Buffalo on Sunday. 

[Dillenger4]

Can't wait for this game! Bills will be on fire and feeling healthy. Hope for Dawkins and JP to be back and ready!

GO BILLS - one game at a time boys!!!!

[FLFan]

8 minutes ago, Greg S said:

 

They get a QB or if White turns out to be the real going forward then they will be a problem to deal with.

Mike White does not appear to me to be more than the journeyman backup he has been.  He is certainly better than Zach Wilson right now but that is not saying much.  Despite the final total on yards, he looked every bit an overmatched back up yesterday.   

[Greg S]

Just now, FLFan said:

Mike White does not appear to me to be more than the journeyman backup he has been.  He is certainly better than Zach Wilson right now but that is not saying much.  Despite the final total on yards, he looked every bit an overmatched back up yesterday.   

 

The Jets will use the rest of the season to evaluate White. Looks like Zach is done in NY/NJ. Don't know how strong the QB class is in the upcoming draft, but I would imagine the Jets will select one. Flacco is near retirement age. Wilson isn't the guy. They need to bring in someone to compete with White. Jimmy G has been mentioned but I don't think he is all that great either. 

[Slippery Rubber Mats]

White made some tough throws last week. Some tight window stuff downfield. His WRs were making tough contested catches too

 

I came away impressed, having not watched him since last year. That being said, a lot of those throws were into coverage and it doesn;t take much to have those go the other way.

[Marvin]

Just saw a rumour that the game was flexed to Saturday night on NFL network.  True or false?

[Greg S]

3 minutes ago, Marvin said:

Just saw a rumour that the game was flexed to Saturday night on NFL network.  True or false?

 

Bills - Dolphins was flexed to Saturday night. Jets - Bills is Sunday at 1:00

[RunTheBall]

Last couple games it finally seems like the refs are calling PI/Holding on Sauce Gardner. I’ve never seen a rookie get so much preferential treatment from the refs. This guy physically assaults receivers on the regular and has been getting away with it from the beginning. In the last couple games it seems like they’ve been flagging him and Lo and Behold! , he starts giving up catches. Funny how that works. WIll be interesting to see if the trend continues.

Edited December 5, 2022 by RunTheBall

[Greg S]

Just now, RunTheBall said:

Last couple games it finally seems like the refs are calling PI/Holding on Sauce Gardner. I’ve never seen a rookie get so much preferential treatment from the refs. This guy physically assaults receivers on the regular and has been getting away with it from the beginning. In the last couple games it seems likely they’ve been flagging him and Lo and Behold! , he starts giving up catches. Funny how that works. WIll be interesting to see if the trend continues.

 

Really hope Dawkins is back for this one. The Jets front 4 is solid as they can get pressure without blitzing. The Bills OL vs the Jets DL is the key matchup IMHO. If the Bills do well here then Allen will make plays to get us the win

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

13 minutes ago, Marvin said:

Just saw a rumour that the game was flexed to Saturday night on NFL network.  True or false?

That’s the dolphins game the week after 

[artmalibu]

Any reports on who did not practice today?

 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

16 minutes ago, Tom Donahoe, GM said:

White made some tough throws last week. Some tight window stuff downfield. His WRs were making tough contested catches too

 

I came away impressed, having not watched him since last year. That being said, a lot of those throws were into coverage and it doesn;t take much to have those go the other way.

They’re pretty much the patriots on the offensive side assuming mike white is nothing more or less than ok…better defense though. 
they would’ve struggled mightily on offense if we had the same lineup available for the last meeting. 

[Fan in Chicago]

2 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

 

Who else are we worried about? 

 

We are Bills fans and worry about everything including the sun not rising tomorrow. 

 

As for this game, I am feeling good about:

- Tre White is working his way back and will help against the other White's throws into tight coverage

- Hoping Dorsey continues his progress towards scheming the patient, short passing game against a good DL

- Cook is getting more work and showing decent progress

- Allen's arm (and brain?) looked good against the Pats**

- Allen used McKenzie well against the Pats** 

 

I have been superstitious earlier this season and it hasnt helped. So, this time I go with my feelings and predict that the Bills will win with a 2+ TD margin. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

7 minutes ago, RunTheBall said:

Last couple games it finally seems like the refs are calling PI/Holding on Sauce Gardner. I’ve never seen a rookie get so much preferential treatment from the refs. This guy physically assaults receivers on the regular and has been getting away with it from the beginning. In the last couple games it seems like they’ve been flagging him and Lo and Behold! , he starts giving up catches. Funny how that works. WIll be interesting to see if the trend continues.

Wonder how he’d be viewed if gabe didn’t drop that likely game winner (at worst game tie-er 😂) last meeting 

[RiotAct]

4 minutes ago, artmalibu said:

Any reports on who did not practice today?

 

reports for a regular Sunday game are always Wed-Thurs-Fri.  I don’t know that they did anything in the way of practice (physically) today?

[BillsFanSD]

10 minutes ago, RunTheBall said:

Last couple games it finally seems like the refs are calling PI/Holding on Sauce Gardner. I’ve never seen a rookie get so much preferential treatment from the refs. This guy physically assaults receivers on the regular and has been getting away with it from the beginning. In the last couple games it seems like they’ve been flagging him and Lo and Behold! , he starts giving up catches. Funny how that works. WIll be interesting to see if the trend continues.

You have to assume coaches are asking officiating crews to keep on eye on this.  It was so blatant earlier in the season.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

6 minutes ago, Greg S said:

 

Really hope Dawkins is back for this one. The Jets front 4 is solid as they can get pressure without blitzing. The Bills OL vs the Jets DL is the key matchup IMHO. If the Bills do well here then Allen will make plays to get us the win

They’ve got a better front 4 than the pats but I think 4 quarters against the pats in NE with quessenberry getting hurt early and clearly playing very injured was a worse situation than we’ll see this week. 
 

at least you get a week to gameplan around whos gonna be healthy.  Quess could hardly even get in guys way in that NE game 

[Buffalo Boy]

1 hour ago, BruceVilanch said:

Me and my dad are flying in from Oregon for this game, can't wait! Go Bills!

   My son asked to come see Josh play in person for his Birthday present. We are driving up Friday. 
   This will be my first regular season game seeing Josh. I was so spoiled as a kid watching Kelly and Co live and in person so many times.

[PolishPrince]

34 minutes ago, Tom Donahoe, GM said:

White made some tough throws last week. Some tight window stuff downfield. His WRs were making tough contested catches too

 

I came away impressed, having not watched him since last year. That being said, a lot of those throws were into coverage and it doesn;t take much to have those go the other way.

Didnt last year we had a similar scenario? White came off like 2-3 big stat games leading Jets to some wins out of nowhere. Media was on the White hype train, he was like the second coming. Then he played the Bills and got destroyed and went back to the shadows. 

[RocCityRoller]

17 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

They’re pretty much the patriots on the offensive side assuming mike white is nothing more or less than ok…better defense though. 
they would’ve struggled mightily on offense if we had the same lineup available for the last meeting. 

 

Have to disagree with you. The Jets have a lot of emerging play makers all over the offense, New England has Stevenson and Meyers who are a little better than replacement level.

 

Wilson/ Davis and Moore are a very good trio of WR and they have some solid depth there. Wilson is emerging as a real play maker. Davis is enough of a good vet to make teams pay for rolling coverage to Wilson. Moore is underutilized.

 

Hall is a star in the making. He is injured but Carter and Knight are fast and slippery.

 

Uzomah and Conklin are solid TEs.

 

If the Jets just get competent QB play they will be very dangerous. New England could have Aaron Rodgers and still struggle offensively.

[Logic]

I think our defense is going to bring Mike White back down to earth this Sunday.

You always see this happen with backups across the league. They come in and have a few great games and everyone is like "wait a second, has this been our best guy all along?!". Then some team eventually brings them crashing back to earth. Maybe because there's more film on this player's tendencies, maybe they just have a bad day at the office. Whatever the case may be, everyone quickly remembers why this player was a backup to begin with. I'm not that concerned about the Jets offense vs the Bills defense.

Now the Jets DEFENSE, that's another story. They, I do believe, are genuinely good, and will give the Bills some trouble this Sunday. Nevertheless, I expect the Bills to take care of business, and I think the 9.5 point spread is just about right.