Playoffs? Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Sorry, my failed attempt at sarcasm. This wasn’t meant at you. Haha - All good my friend. Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 I'm just confused as to where the posters are that have incessantly told me about how the Bills have so many deficiencies compared to the Chiefs, Dolphins, Titans, Jets and Chargers? I know the Patriots talk ended Thursday, but I would have thought they were ready for today. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 What about Waddle, he got hurt right? Did he come back into the game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 34 minutes ago, BeavercreekBillsFan said: Disagree with top LB unit but hey if you like Edmunds that much then fine. Tre is not a top 3 corner even before his injury. Best DL depth in the league? Stop. Von is out so let’s revisit this each week after we can’t get pressure on Qbs without him. look I love the bills. But let’s not overrate the actual talent on this roster. Yes We have the 2nd or 3rd best qb in the league depending on how you rate burrow. Josh elevates a middle of the pack roster and makes us great. Tre is absolutely a top 3 CB before his injury. Surtain is having a great year but who knows if he'll be consistent. Xavien Howard is up there. Ramsey, Alexander, and Slay all come after Tre in my opinion. We got a ton of pressure on Mac without Von. And we are excellent against the run this year. You didn't address any of the other positions I mentioned and you vastly overrated the 49ers WR position. When it comes down to it, QB is still the most important part of the equation. We have equal talent to the 49ers throughout the rest of the roster, but we have a massive advantage where it matters most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 24 minutes ago, Process said: What about Waddle, he got hurt right? Did he come back into the game? He was back in 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 @GunnerBill How do you like my Bengals prediction now?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 15 minutes ago, MPT said: Tre is absolutely a top 3 CB before his injury. Surtain is having a great year but who knows if he'll be consistent. Xavien Howard is up there. Ramsey, Alexander, and Slay all come after Tre in my opinion. We got a ton of pressure on Mac without Von. And we are excellent against the run this year. You didn't address any of the other positions I mentioned and you vastly overrated the 49ers WR position. When it comes down to it, QB is still the most important part of the equation. We have equal talent to the 49ers throughout the rest of the roster, but we have a massive advantage where it matters most. Don’t know if it’s all injury related but Xavien Howard has been bad all year long. It’s a pretty big reason why their defense has struggled. flores certainly ran the offense straight into the ground but I think he was getting a lot more out of his defensive players than McDaniel is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Don’t know if it’s all injury related but Xavien Howard has been bad all year long. It’s a pretty big reason why their defense has struggled. flores certainly ran the offense straight into the ground but I think he was getting a lot more out of his defensive players than McDaniel is Past results do not guarantee future performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said: Past results do not guarantee future performance. I’m not saying he’ll play badly against us…I’m saying he should not be in the ‘elite corner’ group based on his play so far 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 1 hour ago, MPT said: We have a top 3 WR, best LB duo in the league, top 3 safety, top 3 CB, best DL depth in the league, and OH YEAH top 2 at the most important position where the 49ers have the 20th-ish guy. Also, the 49ers don't have the best pass rusher or a top 5 WR. The Cowboys, Patriots, and Steelers have better pass rushers. The Rams, too, if you include interior guys. I'm not even sure who you think their top 5 WR is. Deebo? Aiyuk? Neither are even top 10. Thinks you’re describing the eagles w DL depth. aj , Basham , shaq are JAGs. settle and DQ are one step above JAG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: I’m not saying he’ll play badly against us…I’m saying he should not be in the ‘elite corner’ group based on his play so far My comment was a general, "you never know' what next year will mean with any player from any team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Don’t know if it’s all injury related but Xavien Howard has been bad all year long. It’s a pretty big reason why their defense has struggled. flores certainly ran the offense straight into the ground but I think he was getting a lot more out of his defensive players than McDaniel is Yeah I was trying to go by overall career performance (weighted toward current ability so players like Gilmore, Harris, Peterson, Bouye didn't factor in) since Tre obviously hasn't been a top 3 corner this year due to injury. It's also very subjective so I find the other poster's claim that the 49ers roster is better than ours to be dubious at best especially considering the massive gap at QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 1 hour ago, BeavercreekBillsFan said: Haha well I tried to tell people and win them some money. I knew the bengals game would be close. I never once thought he dolphins would keep it under 10 so that was simple. That said, I’m higher on the Niners than anyone else on this board. I have a +1800 Super Bowl bet that I took out when Lance got hurt and Jimmy took over. Their roster in insane, best in the league by far. They won’t win it all now but they’re still going to win at least 1 playoff game, book that Agree. It’s also that we don’t have that elite DE without Von. Let’s be real, we’ve whiffed at that spot. Groot is good at stopping the run, but not rushing the passer as much I think Groot has a lot of promise, and elite DEs don't fall out of the trees. I like his trajectory from last year to this year and I am pretty sure we have not seen what his ceiling is yet. You cannot teach that length he has or that bend and hand use. Considering where we were drafting I think he may have been a steal - we will see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, balln said: Thinks you’re describing the eagles w DL depth. aj , Basham , shaq are JAGs. settle and DQ are one step above JAG You might be right considering their recent acquisitions of Joseph and Suh. But I'd put Rousseau ahead of their DE's and Oliver ahead of their DT's. And Lawson has played well above JAG status this year, he just doesn't have splash plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Just now, MPT said: You might be right considering their recent acquisitions of Joseph and Suh. But I'd put Rousseau ahead of their DE's and Oliver ahead of their DT's. And Lawson has played well above JAG status this year, he just doesn't have splash plays. On no planet is Oliver better than fletcher cox reddick is producing same as Von then you have Brandon graham and Robert Quinn oh yea don’t forget Jordan Davis puhhhh leaseeeee .. shaq lawson can’t win in pass rush. Like ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 15 hours ago, BuffaloBill said: Today Bills fans are also rooting for the Bengals, Eagles, Niners and Vikings!!!! Have a great Sunday. Ok. Now do next week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeavercreekBillsFan Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, balln said: On no planet is Oliver better than fletcher cox reddick is producing same as Von then you have Brandon graham and Robert Quinn oh yea don’t forget Jordan Davis puhhhh leaseeeee .. shaq lawson can’t win in pass rush. Like ever. Thank you, I’ve been trying to say our fans overrate so many of our players. I like our guys but we have very few elite guys, like top 10 guys at their position. Probably just josh, Diggs, Poyer, and maybe Von. Milano maybe too. Not sure if Tre is or not anymore. Yes, the eagles line is WAY better than ours. That’s the bigggest issue I have. We are severely lacking in the trenches. Especially the OL. Our lack of pass rush depth is going to hurt us until von comes back too. Might be ok against Mike white, Tua, Mac, and Justin Fields but Burrow is going to murder us with those weapons., Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 12 minutes ago, balln said: On no planet is Oliver better than fletcher cox reddick is producing same as Von then you have Brandon graham and Robert Quinn oh yea don’t forget Jordan Davis puhhhh leaseeeee .. shaq lawson can’t win in pass rush. Like ever. Fletcher Cox and Brandon Graham have had excellent careers but are starting to wear down. Robert Quinn hasn't done anything this year. Jordan Davis is an unproven rookie. I'm definitely not saying they're not one of the best units in the league, but if there is a gap between them and our DL it's very small. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallser Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Matt Ryan needs to retire, what the hell am I watching? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, BeavercreekBillsFan said: Thank you, I’ve been trying to say our fans overrate so many of our players. I like our guys but we have very few elite guys, like top 10 guys at their position. Probably just josh, Diggs, Poyer, and maybe Von. Milano maybe too. Not sure if Tre is or not anymore. Yes, the eagles line is WAY better than ours. That’s the bigggest issue I have. We are severely lacking in the trenches. Especially the OL. Our lack of pass rush depth is going to hurt us until von comes back too. Might be ok against Mike white, Tua, Mac, and Justin Fields but Burrow is going to murder us with those weapons., You're definitely right about our OL but if you go looking for teams that have more than 2 top-10 players at their positions you won't find many. You begrudgingly listed 4 for us, including the most important position in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, BeavercreekBillsFan said: Thank you, I’ve been trying to say our fans overrate so many of our players. I like our guys but we have very few elite guys, like top 10 guys at their position. Probably just josh, Diggs, Poyer, and maybe Von. Milano maybe too. Not sure if Tre is or not anymore. Yes, the eagles line is WAY better than ours. That’s the bigggest issue I have. We are severely lacking in the trenches. Especially the OL. Our lack of pass rush depth is going to hurt us until von comes back too. Might be ok against Mike white, Tua, Mac, and Justin Fields but Burrow is going to murder us with those weapons., Milano was playing absolutely out of his mind until the Detroit game. Rousseau is having a great season too if tre white is a similar level to years past were talkin 5 potential elite players on defense Edited December 5, 2022 by Generic_Bills_Fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 13 minutes ago, Fallser said: Matt Ryan needs to retire, what the hell am I watching? a funeral? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeavercreekBillsFan Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 22 minutes ago, MPT said: You're definitely right about our OL but if you go looking for teams that have more than 2 top-10 players at their positions you won't find many. You begrudgingly listed 4 for us, including the most important position in the game. This started out though with me saying the Niners roster is the best in the league. They have top 10 guys everywhere except at qb of course. They’re so good everywhere else that it hides that wart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Just now, BeavercreekBillsFan said: This started out though with me saying the Niners roster is the best in the league. They have top 10 guys everywhere except at qb of course. They’re so good everywhere else that it hides that wart. You actually said top 5 at first but sure let's say top 10. McCaffrey, Bosa, Kittle, Warner, Trent Williams? That's 5. Like you said, though, none of those are a QB. They're one of the best rosters in the league but they don't have the most important part. We do, and we have about as many top 10 players as they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Process said: What about Waddle, he got hurt right? Did he come back into the game? He was in and out all game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nelius Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 I'm pretty convinced that the bottom is going to fall out for either the Jets, Miami, or both. I think they've both peaked, New York especially. Mike White is a clear upgrade over Wilson, but he's still not the game changing QB that will do something against a consistent pass rush. I wouldn't be surprised if the D-line eats him alive next week, even without Von. And then you can't really turn to Flacco because he's an even worse statue against the rush. Jets are just buying time right now. They turned some heads but it was always about the next year or two for them. Somebody's going to make a move in the AFC, although it may not really impact the Bills much if we keep the #1. Got to think it's either Vegas or Cleveland now with Watson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 4 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: @GunnerBill How do you like my Bengals prediction now?? They do seem to have hit their groove a bit. I still don't see them going back to the Superbowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 6 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Don’t know if it’s all injury related but Xavien Howard has been bad all year long. It’s a pretty big reason why their defense has struggled. flores certainly ran the offense straight into the ground but I think he was getting a lot more out of his defensive players than McDaniel is Concerning their Defense: I watched the entire game, and after Jimmy G went out, it seems like the Fish blitzed on almost every play thereafter. If that is there main strategy, they are digressing--and wait until they have to play a 1st string QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeavercreekBillsFan Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 8 hours ago, MPT said: You actually said top 5 at first but sure let's say top 10. McCaffrey, Bosa, Kittle, Warner, Trent Williams? That's 5. Like you said, though, none of those are a QB. They're one of the best rosters in the league but they don't have the most important part. We do, and we have about as many top 10 players as they do. Sorry yes, they’re top 5 roster and I’ll still say it’s the best. If they figure out the qb position it would be over for the rest of the league. You forgot to mention Deebo. Don’t agree with me on how good their roster is? They’re on their 3rd string QB and only Philly and Dallas still have better odds to win the NFC. Yes the Niners are still above the Vikings, etc. Maybe that’s a bigger indictment on the Vikings but let’s be real. Vegas recognizes how stacked the Niners are. They’re still going to make the playoffs and I actually think I would pick them still to get to the NFC title game and lose a close one to Philly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 5 hours ago, GunnerBill said: They do seem to have hit their groove a bit. I still don't see them going back to the Superbowl. They're going to lose to us in the AFCCG. Cincy will beat KC at Arrowhead in the Divisional Round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 I saw numerous penalties called for hitting defenseless receivers worse than Hamlin but none of the players were ejected 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: They're going to lose to us in the AFCCG. Cincy will beat KC at Arrowhead in the Divisional Round. I don't think that is impossible. They do seem to be a little in KC's head. The only thing I'd say is they have squeaked past them 3 times in a row. Eventually you keep winning those narrow games to an opponent and one is going to bounce your way. Their offensive line is still a struggle to me. I am surprised that their corners have held up as well as they have again. Gotta give them credit because it is a no-star defense that they have playing out of their skin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 17 hours ago, Special K said: Contract gamble goes bust. Highly unlikely. If he hits UFA, he will be the highest paid QB in the NFL history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 17 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I don't think that is impossible. They do seem to be a little in KC's head. The only thing I'd say is they have squeaked past them 3 times in a row. Eventually you keep winning those narrow games to an opponent and one is going to bounce your way. Their offensive line is still a struggle to me. I am surprised that their corners have held up as well as they have again. Gotta give them credit because it is a no-star defense that they have playing out of their skin. Well they are a Tyler Boyd very easy dropped pass from having a more comfortable lead. Or maybe the narrow close games become more convincing wins for the Bengals. They're in the Chiefs heads! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Well they are a Tyler Boyd very easy dropped pass from having a more comfortable lead. Or maybe the narrow close games become more convincing wins for the Bengals. They're in the Chiefs heads! They were also an uncharacteristic Kelce fumble from losing. But agree, they are in KC's head, definitely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: They were also an uncharacteristic Kelce fumble from losing. But agree, they are in KC's head, definitely. Didn't we have a bet back in August? The Bengals don't make the playoffs, I post nudes. The Bengals, do make the playoffs, you post nudes. I would suggest your start dieting and working out.... Edited December 5, 2022 by Royale with Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 50 minutes ago, nucci said: I saw numerous penalties called for hitting defenseless receivers worse than Hamlin but none of the players were ejected Eagle player hit on Burks should have been ejected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 20 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Didn't we have a bet back in August? The Bengals don't make the playoffs, I post nudes. The Bengals, don't make the playoffs, I post nudes. I would suggest your start dieting and working out.... Nothing wrong with my dad bod. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 (edited) according to NUT in the 2nd quarter of the game it was "Game, Bengals blew it." sizzling hot take! Edited December 5, 2022 by DaBillsFanSince1973 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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