Bills at Lions - Post Game Thread

[Motorin']

Just now, newcam2012 said:

I think you are missing the point. In fact, you make my point even stronger. The Bills played a mediocre Lions team who were hurt on both sides of the ball. They Bills weren't able to control the game and in fact struggled on both sides of the ball. The Bills were very fortunate to win today. Point being with all the Bills injuries they are not a great team. Not a team who can make a run to the Super Bowl. Anyone thinking the Bills can is out of touch with reality. 

 

You remind me of someone who enjoys smelling your own farts.

[KellyToTasker]

1 minute ago, newcam2012 said:

I think you are missing the point. In fact, you make my point even stronger. The Bills played a mediocre Lions team who were hurt on both sides of the ball. The Bills weren't able to control the game and in fact struggled on both sides of the ball. The Bills were very fortunate to win today. Point being with all the Bills injuries they are not a great team. Not a team who can make a run to the Super Bowl. Anyone thinking the Bills can is out of touch with reality. 

They’re a team surviving due to the injuries. Really, a trait of a great team. Get to the playoffs with a healthy team and they are capable of going to the Super Bowl. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

6 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I think you are missing the point. In fact, you make my point even stronger. The Bills played a mediocre Lions team who were hurt on both sides of the ball. They Bills weren't able to control the game and in fact struggled on both sides of the ball. The Bills were very fortunate to win today. Point being with all the Bills injuries they are not a great team. Not a team who can make a run to the Super Bowl. Anyone thinking the Bills can is out of touch with reality. 

I think you made my point even stronger honestly but agree to disagree I guess 😄. Bills are missing a ton of high impact starters that mostly have week to week injuries and will be returning.  
 

they are finding ways to win with holes all over the roster and faced with a lot of adversity.  Playing 2 road games in 5 days with little to no practice is insane.  
 

if a lot of these players were out for the year I’d see your point a little more but that is not the case.  Plugging edmunds back in is going to change a lot on the defensive side 
 

 

Edited November 25, 2022 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[QLBillsFan]

3 hours ago, QLBillsFan said:

Yeah .. good comments. NFL is easy with no travel weather or injury issues.Spot on !

What part is no not accurate? Thumbs down. What specifically don’t you agree with ?

[Heitz]

8 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I think you are missing the point. In fact, you make my point even stronger. The Bills played a mediocre Lions team who were hurt on both sides of the ball. The Bills weren't able to control the game and in fact struggled on both sides of the ball. The Bills were very fortunate to win today. Point being with all the Bills injuries they are not a great team. Not a team who can make a run to the Super Bowl. Anyone thinking the Bills can is out of touch with reality. 

At least your lack of faith in the Bills is consistent… 🤣

 

 

[newcam2012]

1 hour ago, Big Turk said:

 

But in the end put up over 400 yards and 28 points.

 

There are a LOT of teams who dream of "struggling" in that way.

 

This was also a HUGE deal for Detroit on Thanksgiving and they were really up for the game...and like most other teams, they view the Bills as their Super Bowl.

 

 

QB Power/QB Pin and Pull shouldn't only be used in end of game situations...those are money plays inside the 10 yard line. Unstoppable.

Come on Turk, surely you are more intelligent than that. Those numbers don't tell an accurate picture of the game. The Bills offense was out of sync for much of the game and Allen was often not sharp throwing the ball. The Bills offense should have dominated the Lions defense! This offense is simply making mistakes, out of sync, and the oline can't protect Allen. 

 

The defense struggled to stop the Lions offense. That was no surprise to me due to their offense and the Bills injuries. 

 

Any Bills fans is happy with the win but should absolutely be concerned at what they are seeing. It's anything but Super Bowl like. Just the facts...

[gtw3]

Great back to back wins overcoming a lot of non-football related adversity.  Now we can get back into a more regular football schedule and we all can just sit back and relax on Sunday.

[newcam2012]

1 hour ago, BillzFreak said:

Wait I'm confused so the Bills have injuries to, missing there starting center and then losing there starting left tackle for most of the game. So imo the injuries were a wash. The Bills found a way to win, plain and simple. People can nit pick all they want but a win is a win sorry if that upsets you or anyone else.

I'm ecstatic about the win but it comes with an asterisk. Von is out for how long and injuries have unfortunately made this team slightly above average. 

Edited November 25, 2022 by newcam2012

[QLBillsFan]

2 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

Come on Turk, surely you are more intelligent than that. Those numbers don't tell an accurate picture of the game. The Bills offense was out of sync for much of the game and Allen was often not sharp throwing the ball. The Bills offense should have dominated the Lions defense! This offense is simply making mistakes, out of sync, and the oline can't protect Allen. 

 

The defense struggled to stop the Lions offense. That was no surprise to me due to their offense and the Bills injuries. 

 

Any Bills fans is happy with the win but should absolutely be concerned at what they are seeing. It's anything but Super Bowl like. Just the facts...

Bills 8-3. Very long season. QB and 2 most important OL hurt or out. D injuries where do I start ? Bills had an unreal past several days. W ugly is better then a well played L. 

[newcam2012]

7 minutes ago, Heitz said:

At least your lack of faith in the Bills is consistent… 🤣

 

 

Trust your eyes not your heart. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

2 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I'm ecstatic about the win but it comes with an asterisk. Von is out for how long and injuries have unfortunately made this team slightly above average. 

He’ll be back for the playoffs id guess…Rousseau and edmunds will be back any week now though it seems…and I’m assuming tre white’s role will expand. 

[Putin]

Is anyone watching the patriots ? 
that OL is really really good I have no idea how we gonna get any pressure on McKorkle if we don’t get healthy real quick !!!

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

2 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I think you are missing the point. In fact, you make my point even stronger. The Bills played a mediocre Lions team who were hurt on both sides of the ball. They Bills weren't able to control the game and in fact struggled on both sides of the ball. The Bills were very fortunate to win today. Point being with all the Bills injuries they are not a great team. Not a team who can make a run to the Super Bowl. Anyone thinking the Bills can is out of touch with reality. 

 

 Given your scenario the Bills wouldn't have any of their injured returning before the playoffs? I don't think anyone believes with the current injuries on the Bills that they would have a good shot at winning a title if the playoffs were to start next week. But they don't start next week and as far as we know we may have everyone back from injury by the playoffs, including Micah. That and Josh and Tre have another month and a half to get where they need to be.

 

 Most teams would not be able to continue to win games with the amount of injuries and quality of players lost that have plagued the Bills since week #2. Von's injury today marked the 4th time this year the defense has lost an All-Pro player. 23 full games lost by just All-Pros this year and at least 4 partials. Add to that countless games lost to other starters and important backups. Plus Josh's elbow injury, Tre being out longer than most thought, a tougher schedule than it appeared at the start of the season and it's a minor miracle we're sitting at 8-3.

 

 

 

[newcam2012]

13 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

I think you made my point even stronger honestly but agree to disagree I guess 😄. Bills are missing a ton of high impact starters that mostly have week to week injuries and will be returning.  
 

they are finding ways to win with holes all over the roster and faced with a lot of adversity.  Playing 2 road games in 5 days with little to no practice is insane.  
 

if a lot of these players were out for the year I’d see your point a little more but that is not the case.  Plugging edmunds back in is going to change a lot on the defensive side 
 

 

This is certainly viable. I hope you are correct and I'm wrong. 

[Motorin']

8 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

Come on Turk, surely you are more intelligent than that. Those numbers don't tell an accurate picture of the game. The Bills offense was out of sync for much of the game and Allen was often not sharp throwing the ball. The Bills offense should have dominated the Lions defense! This offense is simply making mistakes, out of sync, and the oline can't protect Allen. 

 

The defense struggled to stop the Lions offense. That was no surprise to me due to their offense and the Bills injuries. 

 

Any Bills fans is happy with the win but should absolutely be concerned at what they are seeing. It's anything but Super Bowl like. Just the facts...

 

Talk about our of touch with reality, expecting a team to play like it's the Super Bowl every game of a long grueling season that's seen the whole league decimated by injuries. 

[newcam2012]

14 minutes ago, KellyToTasker said:

They’re a team surviving due to the injuries. Really, a trait of a great team. Get to the playoffs with a healthy team and they are capable of going to the Super Bowl. 

I agree with a healthy Bills team has a great path to the Super Bowl. However, Hdye is already out for the year and who knows about Von and others. Also, I'm not convinced Allen isn't hurt. Will he get healthy? 

[KellyToTasker]

7 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

Come on Turk, surely you are more intelligent than that. Those numbers don't tell an accurate picture of the game. The Bills offense was out of sync for much of the game and Allen was often not sharp throwing the ball. The Bills offense should have dominated the Lions defense! This offense is simply making mistakes, out of sync, and the oline can't protect Allen. 

 

The defense struggled to stop the Lions offense. That was no surprise to me due to their offense and the Bills injuries. 

 

Any Bills fans is happy with the win but should absolutely be concerned at what they are seeing. It's anything but Super Bowl like. Just the facts...

Just the facts:

 

1. Back up players, playing. They typically don’t play, few reps throughout the season.

 

2. They’ve barely practiced the last two games.  
 

All of the above equates to not pumping on all cylinders. If you take a step back, it’s not as concerning to the level you’re making it out to be. 

[WyoAZBillfan]

5 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

Trust your eyes not your heart. 

[KellyToTasker]

1 minute ago, newcam2012 said:

I agree with a healthy Bills team has a great path to the Super Bowl. However, Hdye is already out for the year and who knows about Von and others. Also, I'm not convinced Allen isn't hurt. Will he get healthy? 

Not trying to be a dick. But let’s take a step back here. All teams are injured by now. 

 

I think Allen will, yes. 
 

Most of their injuries are returning (even Hyde is a potential). 

[Airseven]

29 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

turn on sound for the video.

 

😆

 

 

Now that THAT is awesome!!

 

bravo

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

7 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I agree with a healthy Bills team has a great path to the Super Bowl. However, Hdye is already out for the year and who knows about Von and others. Also, I'm not convinced Allen isn't hurt. Will he get healthy? 

We actually don’t even know that hyde is out for the playoffs.

 

Offensive line was the mess today and it sounds like no one is seriously injured.  Morse wasn’t ready to go on the short week,  Dawkins got hurt midgame and was questionable to return which forced quessenberry in who was playing hurt.  
 

tough to take advantage of the favorable passing matchups when your offensive line can’t block anybody. 

 

id expect to get edmunds and maybe Rousseau back also on this mini bye week as well as morse and probably Dawkins although I didn’t hear what his injury ended up being. 
 

initial reports seem to be that von millers knee injury isn’t as serious as it looked.  Sounds like it’s gonna be a 3 or 4 game-er 
 

 

Edited November 25, 2022 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[newcam2012]

5 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said:

 

 Given your scenario the Bills wouldn't have any of their injured returning before the playoffs? I don't think anyone believes with the current injuries on the Bills that they would have a good shot at winning a title if the playoffs were to start next week. But they don't start next week and as far as we know we may have everyone back from injury by the playoffs, including Micah. That and Josh and Tre have another month and a half to get where they need to be.

 

 Most teams would not be able to continue to win games with the amount of injuries and quality of players lost that have plagued the Bills since week #2. Von's injury today marked the 4th time this year the defense has lost an All-Pro player. 23 full games lost by just All-Pros this year and at least 4 partials. Add to that countless games lost to other starters and important backups. Plus Josh's elbow injury, Tre being out longer than most thought, a tougher schedule than it appeared at the start of the season and it's a minor miracle we're sitting at 8-3.

 

 

 

Very nice post. With that being said, there are so many unknown variables and no one really knows what the health of this team will be going forward.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

Allen was methodical on the last TD drive, and rifled in that last throw to Diggs.

 

It wasn’t the prettiest at times, but Allen was over 300 total yards and 3-TDs.

 

His running started to tick up again and the Bills called some designed runs. 

[The Wiz]

33 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

I'm torn between saying this is awesome and science has gone too far.

I dunno about science but technology definitely has. 

[newcam2012]

7 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

We actually don’t even know that hyde is out for the playoffs.

 

Offensive line was the mess today and it sounds like no one is seriously injured.  Morse wasn’t ready to go on the short week,  Dawkins got hurt midgame and was questionable to return which forced quessenberry in who was playing hurt.  
 

tough to take advantage of the favorable passing matchups when your offensive line can’t block anybody. 

 

id expect to get edmunds and maybe Rousseau back also on this mini bye week as well as morse and probably Dawkins although I didn’t hear what his injury ended up being. 
 

initial reports seem to be that von millers knee injury isn’t as serious as it looked.  Sounds like it’s gonna be a 3 or 4 game-er 
 

 

Great news!!!

[Big Turk]

26 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

Come on Turk, surely you are more intelligent than that. Those numbers don't tell an accurate picture of the game. The Bills offense was out of sync for much of the game and Allen was often not sharp throwing the ball. The Bills offense should have dominated the Lions defense! This offense is simply making mistakes, out of sync, and the oline can't protect Allen. 

 

The defense struggled to stop the Lions offense. That was no surprise to me due to their offense and the Bills injuries. 

 

Any Bills fans is happy with the win but should absolutely be concerned at what they are seeing. It's anything but Super Bowl like. Just the facts...

 

Nah, this isn't Madden. What has transpired over the past week took a big toll mentally and physically on them. Real life doesn't matter in Madden but it does in the NFL.

 

The only I cared about in the last 2 games was getting the Dub. Didn't matter how.

 

People who don't understand how this stuff matters live in fantasy land.

Edited November 25, 2022 by Big Turk

[SageAgainstTheMachine]

So reading this thread, it appears that the fans don’t want to win close games after all.

[WideNine]

All I know is that Detroit is a scrappy team, playing at home, coming off a game where they kicked the Giants in the nads pretty good and my Bills pulled off the win.

 

Allen clearly toughed his way through the game and defense came up with enough stops and a key safety while losing Von and having a secondary that has been struggling locking things down and getting off the field on 3rd down.

 

Is there a lot that needs fixing - yes, but that was a gutsy win and I will take it. Kind of odd getting 2 Thursday games in a row, would have liked to have gotten a full week and a few days to get some of the walking wounded back in the lineup, but many of us felt the slight of the Bills rarely getting prime time games... that is not an issue this season.

 

 

[Norcalbillsfan]

Big win, wasn't the prettiest but that was the trap of all trap games, lions in their super bowl at home with momentum, bills banged up tired little practice on the road. Bills pull out an ugly but gutsy win against a really gutsy team. Other than the von injury, this was great game because I saw the fire in diggs and joshs eyes when bass put it through. This team will go nowhere without the swag/fire from Allen and Diggs. And I saw it at the end of the game.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

When the Chiefs win by 3 in a late game comeback they are lauded and praised. Mahomes ball washing ensues.

 

When the Bills win by 3 by going the length of the field in 20 seconds we go what’s wrong with Allen and the Bills?

 

[Kenosha2Buffalo]

5 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

When the Chiefs win by 3 in a late game comeback they are lauded and praised. Mahomes ball washing ensues.

 

When the Bills win by 3 by going the length of the field in 20 seconds we go what’s wrong with Allen and the Bills?

 

 

 

Bunch of weirdos 😅

 

Can't win even if you do 

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

22 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

Very nice post. With that being said, there are so many unknown variables and no one really knows what the health of this team will be going forward.

 

 I would say it would be hard to imagine the injury situation being worse. Possible, yes....probable, no.

 

 

 

[newcam2012]

8 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

When the Chiefs win by 3 in a late game comeback they are lauded and praised. Mahomes ball washing ensues.

 

When the Bills win by 3 by going the length of the field in 20 seconds we go what’s wrong with Allen and the Bills?

 

Did you hear what Romo said about Allen's throw? 

 

Plus, your comparassion is a bit disingenuous. The Chargers are seen by many as a playoff contender and dangerous if heathly. No one really considers the Lions as such. Add in the Lion injuries too. 

 

Lastly, Mahomes is out playing Allen despite losing to the Bills. With that said, Allen's throw to Diggs was tremoundous!

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

28 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Allen was methodical on the last TD drive, and rifled in that last throw to Diggs.

 

It wasn’t the prettiest at times, but Allen was over 300 total yards and 3-TDs.

 

His running started to tick up again and the Bills called some designed runs. 

I think they are game planning around his injury and he’s being limited some if I had to guess.  The qb carries are mostly only popping up down the stretch in close games 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 minute ago, newcam2012 said:

Did you hear what Romo said about Allen's throw? 

 

Plus, your comparassion is a bit disingenuous. The Chargers are seen by many as a playoff contender and dangerous if heathly. No one really considers the Lions as such. Add in the Lion injuries too. 

 

Lastly, Mahomes is out playing Allen despite losing to the Bills. With that said, Allen's throw to Diggs was tremoundous!

Mahomes has one of the best offensive lines in football and we have very much not that…Allen never really had a chance based on the supporting cast this season and his elbow injury.  
 

I don’t think there’s much of a chance that Allen gets back in the conversation but I do think it’s closer than it looks if that’s not contradictory at all 😂. Mahomes and Allen are pretty close in total tds and total yards 

 

 

 

[Mark Vader]

What a day and what a game!

 

Tyler Bass is perfect on Field Goal Attempts in Detroit.

 

Ed Oliver gave his all today.

 

Josh Allen delivered when we needed him the most. That pass to Diggs was spectacular. That wasn't Sugar Josh or Super Josh, that was Clutch Josh!

 

My stomach must have turned over 5 times today, but we won and that's what matters.

 

Yes, the Lions are a poorly ranked defense, but they were at home and on a 3 game winning streak.

 

There are almost no gimmes in this league.

 

Hoping Von Miller will be alright, and really can't wait for Edmunds & Rousseau to come back.

 

GO BILLS!!!

Edited November 25, 2022 by Mark Vader

[stevestojan]

Saw this a minute ago: 

 

“Took the Bills 5 days to tie the Lions for most wins in Detroit this season.”

[Straight Hucklebuck]

Listening to 97.1 on the way in, the city of Detroit could feel it. 
 

Win 4 in a row for the first time since 2016.

 

The whole building wanted it badly and the Bills fought that off. 
 

The Lions played hard today, regardless of what the expectation was. They fought and that crowd wanted it. 

[newcam2012]

22 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Mahomes has one of the best offensive lines in football and we have very much not that…Allen never really had a chance based on the supporting cast this season and his elbow injury.  
 

I don’t think there’s much of a chance that Allen gets back in the conversation but I do think it’s closer than it looks if that’s not contradictory at all 😂. Mahomes and Allen are pretty close in total tds and total yards 

 

 

 

True but one glaring omission is the INTs Allen is throwing. Many are totally on him at critical moments in the red zone. Several of those INTs likely cost the bills wins. I believe Allen is leading the league in INTs. 

[Scott7975]

1 hour ago, The Wiz said:

turn on sound for the video.

 

😆

 

 

 

I honestly dont even want to caption that.  Two of the biggest competitors in football and two best friends with real love for each other and the game they play.