RyanC883 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) Just now, Big Turk said: No, doesn't have the wiring setup for what they need from a broadcast standpoint. yikes. You think at some point they would fix that. The NFL could host a Bills v. Jets or other NFL game there. Likely can't have a reg season NBA game there either, when you could have a Toronto v. Philly game there. Edited November 17, 2022 by RyanC883 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Assuming travel bans will be in mass effect, if you want people to actually follow the bans you can't have the game in Buffalo Fans will show up in droves it doesn't matter the weather or the roads 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Just now, Cheektowaga Chad said: Assuming travel bans will be in mass effect, if you want people to actually follow the bans you can't have the game in Buffalo Fans will show up in droves it doesn't matter the weather or the roads Well...could use it as a huge revenue boost. Erie County Sherriff's basically just set up a roadblock and write mass tickets for everyone coming into the stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Well...could use it as a huge revenue boost. Erie County Sherriff's basically just set up a roadblock and write mass tickets for everyone coming into the stadium. And just like that the public money needed for the new stadium has been secured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 40 minutes ago, wppete said: For some reason rules don’t apply for athletes. NBA and MLB can enter without the papers. It’s all ready to go. Yeah, this just isn’t true. As far as Covid documentation, that is correct. No vaxx needed anymore. But they still require proper documentation for crossing into Canada and back into the US. before you argue with me, know that I have personally asked multiple customs and border agents already and have all dismissed your non factual BS. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: Assuming travel bans will be in mass effect, if you want people to actually follow the bans you can't have the game in Buffalo Fans will show up in droves it doesn't matter the weather or the roads how can you find out about travel bans. Is there a NYS website or something. I'm out of state. All I've seen so far is commercial traffic bans. Coming from PGH, so it's 79 north to 90. also, if there are travel bans, do tickets get refunded? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, mrags said: Yeah, this just isn’t true. As far as Covid documentation, that is correct. No vaxx needed anymore. But they still require proper documentation for crossing into Canada and back into the US. before you argue with me, know that I have personally asked multiple customs and border agents already and have all dismissed your non factual BS. Obviously the need proper documentation like passport ect to enter. It’s a National border! Who In Their right minds think they can cross a border without a passport or documentation? Cmon man. The post was referring to Vax requirements to enter Canada which are dropped for athletes as of Oct. https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/canada-will-drop-covid-19-vaccinate-mandate-for-visitors-including-professional-athletes-in-october/amp/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, wppete said: Obviously the need proper documentation like passport ect to enter. It’s a National border! Who In Their right minds think they can cross a border without a passport or documentation? Cmon man. The post was referring to Vax requirements to enter Canada which are dropped for athletes as of Oct. https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/canada-will-drop-covid-19-vaccinate-mandate-for-visitors-including-professional-athletes-in-october/amp/ Except @Big Turknever said anything about Vaxx status. He only said proper documentation. You assumed he meant that and because of that, you are incorrect. The point still holds true, some players may not have proper documentation to cross an INTERNATIONAL border. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, mrags said: Except @Big Turknever said anything about Vaxx status. He only said proper documentation. You assumed he meant that and because of that, you are incorrect. The point still holds true, some players may not have proper documentation to cross an INTERNATIONAL border. That was mostly my point...I probably shouldn't have included those links as they talked about vax status, but the NFL lets teams know well in advance if they will be crossing international borders or playing in international games so they can get all their ducks in a row with paperwork, etc...24-48 hours certainly isn't enough time for that to happen. Edited November 17, 2022 by Big Turk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 minute ago, mrags said: Except @Big Turknever said anything about Vaxx status. He only said proper documentation. You assumed he meant that and because of that, you are incorrect. The point still holds true, some players may not have proper documentation to cross an INTERNATIONAL border. Wow! Do you really think anyone In Their right minds thinks they can cross an international border without a passport and documentation to identify themselves?? Cmon. Obviously he was referring to Vaxx requirements. You are just stating the obvious that a passport is required to enter into Canada or an other country. Cmon, stop the nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahnyc Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 I know the home field advantage is important, but given the reliance of our offense on the passing game, would it potentially be a better result to play in a dome (i.e., Detroit) with no adverse weather conditions (i.e., wind and snow)? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: how can you find out about travel bans. Is there a NYS website or something. I'm out of state. All I've seen so far is commercial traffic bans. Coming from PGH, so it's 79 north to 90. also, if there are travel bans, do tickets get refunded? I always go to the local buffalo news stations wivb (cbs), wkbw (abc) and wgrz (NBC) websites In 2014 the jets game they got refunded. No idea how they would do it this season with their dynamic pricing though Bills refund bills ticket holders, secondary markets refund the secondary market ticket holders Edited November 17, 2022 by Cheektowaga Chad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, jahnyc said: I know the home field advantage is important, but given the reliance of our offense on the passing game, would it potentially be a better result to play in a dome (i.e., Detroit) with no adverse weather conditions (i.e., wind and snow)? Yes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Move to Detroit would be the best possible thing for the Bills. They'd get to play the game, then just remain in Detroit for the week to follow, leading to the Lions game. I can't think of a better solution. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, wppete said: Wow! Do you really think anyone In Their right minds thinks they can cross an international border without a passport and documentation to identify themselves?? Cmon. Obviously he was referring to Vaxx requirements. You are just stating the obvious that a passport is required to enter into Canada or an other country. Cmon, stop the nonsense. Except you didn’t say that. You said: “For some reason rules don’t apply for athletes. NBA and MLB can enter without the papers. It’s all ready to go.” Hinting that you believe sports teams have some exemption to crossing the border to play international games. Pretty sure most others here assumed you meant the same. It’s cool. Keep walking it back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, mrags said: Except you didn’t say that. You said: “For some reason rules don’t apply for athletes. NBA and MLB can enter without the papers. It’s all ready to go.” Hinting that you believe sports teams have some exemption to crossing the border to play international games. Pretty sure most others here assumed you meant the same. It’s cool. Keep walking it back. Wow you are truly special. Ridiculous argument if you really think any government would give exceptions to athletes from Identify themselves with a passport to cross an international border. That’s a given to any Normal person. Move on. Done with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NyBob85 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 20 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: which sucks. Wonder why? Capacity? All the reasons used to rule out the Carrier Dome seem trivial and pointless: "Doesn't have the capacity." --The Chargers played in a 20,000 seat soccer stadium for three whole seasons, no reason why the Bills couldn't play a single game in a 50,000 seat college football venue. "Isn't an 'NFL-caliber' Stadium" --Again, you had the Chargers situation for three years, the Rams playing in an ancient 1930s college stadium for even longer, and plenty of other one-off regular season games in Europe and Mexico have been held in stadiums that were not designed with American football in mind. That excuse doesn't fly either. "Not equipped with NFL-level TV cameras/infrastructure" --This is the only one that halfway holds water, I guess. I suppose there are licensing and contractual broadcasting requirements that have to be satisfied but it's still pretty stupid. I've watched Syracuse home games on ESPN and the ACC Network that look pretty indistinguishable from NFL broadcasts in terms of picture quality and camera angles, but maybe I just don't have a nice enough TV or appreciate the artistic nuance enough to understand why flying drone cameras and super-HD shots of every last drop of sweat falling from the players' noses is an absolutely indispensable prerequisite to conducting a regulation professional football contest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdmoreRyno Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 hour ago, BuffBills51 said: Why isn't the Carrier Dome being discussed as an option? Syracuse is away this weekend and would still give the Bills a home field advantage. Don't want drunk fans getting sucked out of the stadium when they opened the doors (watched an OSU tuba player get sucked out the doors leaving the stadium when Oklahoma State played there in the Sweet 16 of the NCAA Tournament in 2000). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, wppete said: Wow you are truly special. Ridiculous argument if you really think any government would give exceptions to athletes from Identify themselves with a passport to cross an international border. That’s a given to any Normal person. Move on. Done with you. Love how you keep saying that I thought that when it was you who posted what you did. Now youre walking it back. Cute tho 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gisele Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 Fitzpatrick just took his shirt off. Game is in Buffalo. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 58 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: which sucks. Wonder why? Capacity? It lacks electronic / video equipment equipment as required for NFL games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Man Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 11 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said: Don't want drunk fans getting sucked out of the stadium when they opened the doors (watched an OSU tuba player get sucked out the doors leaving the stadium when Oklahoma State played there in the Sweet 16 of the NCAA Tournament in 2000). Hahaha, that getting sucked out of the building effect was crazy. However those days are gone now. They put a physical roof on the building a couple of years ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottaRun Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) 37 minutes ago, wppete said: Wow! Do you really think anyone In Their right minds thinks they can cross an international border without a passport and documentation to identify themselves?? Cmon. Obviously he was referring to Vaxx requirements. You are just stating the obvious that a passport is required to enter into Canada or an other country. Cmon, stop the nonsense. I should introduce you to my brother, he arrived at the Toronto airport with his drivers license because he read somewhere that he could fly from Canada to Barbados with a drivers license. Or, not border related, remind you of when Marshawn Lynch thought Buffalo was in NYC https://nesn.com/2013/10/marshawn-lynch-didnt-know-buffalo-wasnt-part-of-new-york-city-when-bills-drafted-him/#:~:text=When he was drafted%2C Lynch,” Lynch told E%3A60. Edited November 17, 2022 by GottaRun 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 35 minutes ago, wppete said: Wow! Do you really think anyone In Their right minds thinks they can cross an international border without a passport and documentation to identify themselves?? Cmon. Obviously he was referring to Vaxx requirements. You are just stating the obvious that a passport is required to enter into Canada or an other country. Cmon, stop the nonsense. There are plenty of people, trust me. I'd suggest most people who remember crossing the border once when they were visiting Uncle Lou and Aunt Susan 30 years ago and simply had to show their driver's license. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Big Turk said: There are plenty of people, trust me. I'd suggest most people who remember crossing the border once when they were visiting Uncle Lou and Aunt Susan 30 years ago and simply had to show their driver's license. Yeah those days are long gone. Stay updated. that was 30 years ago. 7 minutes ago, GottaRun said: I should introduce you to my brother, he arrived at the Toronto airport with his drivers license because he read somewhere that he could fly from Canada to Barbados with a drivers license. Or, not border related, remind you of when Marshawn Lynch thought Buffalo was in NYC https://nesn.com/2013/10/marshawn-lynch-didnt-know-buffalo-wasnt-part-of-new-york-city-when-bills-drafted-him/#:~:text=When he was drafted%2C Lynch,” Lynch told E%3A60. Some people are truly special. You can’t fix stupid. Edited November 17, 2022 by wppete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, Big Turk said: There are plenty of people, trust me. I'd suggest most people who remember crossing the border once when they were visiting Uncle Lou and Aunt Susan 30 years ago and simply had to show their driver's license. ***** when I had season tickets in the mid 2000's coming from Canada, we only required a drivers license. I think that changed for us around 2007-08? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 19 minutes ago, Big Turk said: There are plenty of people, trust me. I'd suggest most people who remember crossing the border once when they were visiting Uncle Lou and Aunt Susan 30 years ago and simply had to show their driver's license. Well. Pre 9/11 you didn’t even need a drivers license to cross into Canada. Used to go every weekend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Very interesting convo from Cover 1 with former VP of Administrative Planning for the Bills during the Snovember game in 2014 that was moved to Detroit talking timelines, etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdmoreRyno Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 24 minutes ago, Metal Man said: Hahaha, that getting sucked out of the building effect was crazy. However those days are gone now. They put a physical roof on the building a couple of years ago. It was my first trip to Western/upstate NY. BIG Oklahoma State fan and for years, traveled in the post-season to watch them play hoops (2 Final Fours, countless sweet 16's, etc. under Eddie Sutton). Never experienced an 'inflated dome' before that. Was crazy. Glad they changed it! Made me nervous leaving on breaks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 38 minutes ago, Gisele said: Fitzpatrick just took his shirt off. Game is in Buffalo. Pics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagon127 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, loyal2dagame said: I think the Bills would have sent some type of communication out to season ticket holders at this point. Ill see y'all at the game in Orchard Park. Nobody knows for sure how much snow we are getting, and when it will stop falling. It all comes down to how long will it take to shovel the stadium out. We may not know anything until sunday morning. Edited November 17, 2022 by wagon127 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) Hoping it moves to Detroit. Inclement weather gives an advantage to the Browns with their running game. And the subsequent Thanksgiving being in Detroit makes the decision a no brainer. This weather is Real and its not gong to be a good look to be out on the roads. The precedent is there from the past when the Bills played the Jests in Detroit in 2014. Gotta move it. I'll be surprised if they don't from what I've read. Edited November 17, 2022 by muppy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, wagon127 said: Nobody knows for sure how much snow we are getting, and when it will stop falling. It all comes down to how long will it take to shovel the stadium out. We may not know anything until sunday morning. I think they only thing that could effect the game being played is if there's a travel ban and the roads are impassable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 14 minutes ago, wppete said: Yeah those days are long gone. Stay updated. that was 30 years ago. Some people are truly special. You can’t fix stupid. Not to be petty but there is a HUGE difference between "stupid" and ignorant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Question is, how many would travel to see the game? seems many would like to see the move to Detroit but the worst of the snow from what weather I have seen is Friday. Chance of snow 80%. 8 to 12 inches of snow expected. Heavier amounts in persistent snowbands. Saturday Chance of snow 90%. 1 to 3 inches of snow. expected. Then Sunday very little snow called for. Partly cloudy and windy. A few flurries or snow showers possible. High 28F. Winds W at 20 to 30 mph. no, I don't see the game being moved but I'm not the decision maker, so who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagon127 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, Motorin' said: I think they only thing that could effect the game being played is if there's a travel ban and the roads are impassable. Yep, and it needs to be passable by saturday evening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Very interesting convo from Cover 1 with former VP of Administrative Planning for the Bills during the Snovember game in 2014 that was moved to Detroit talking timelines, etc... He says without any knowledge he puts odds at 3-1 the game is played here...maybe moved to 4pm. However, then when told they are playing in Detroit for Thanksgiving, said it's a very good possibility they may just do that and stay out there... Edited November 17, 2022 by Big Turk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Super Fan Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 The Buffalo Bills deserve this for being cheap, stubborn and stupid not putting a dome on our stadium like Detroit in a snow belt Orchard Park. So basically once a year we are going to have a road game in Detroit because we are too cheap, stubborn and stupid because we won’t dome our stadium got it. Because Detroit was smart putting a dome on there stadium the Bills will play there once or twice a year in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Buffalo Super Fan said: The Buffalo Bills deserve this for being cheap, stubborn and stupid not putting a dome on our stadium like Detroit in a snow belt Orchard Park. So basically once a year we are going to have a road game in Detroit because we are too cheap, stubborn and stupid because we won’t dome our stadium got it. Because Detroit was smart putting a dome on there stadium the Bills will play there once or twice a year in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo The last serious snow game was five years ago, and it was pretty epic. This isn't anywhere close to a "once a year" thing. Edit: Also, they'd probably be talking about moving the game even if we had a dome. The issue as I understand it is with getting the Browns into Buffalo and getting everyone to and from the stadium safely. A dome wouldn't help with any of that stuff. Edited November 17, 2022 by BillsFanSD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, Buffalo Super Fan said: The Buffalo Bills deserve this for being cheap, stubborn and stupid not putting a dome on our stadium like Detroit in a snow belt Orchard Park. So basically once a year we are going to have a road game in Detroit because we are too cheap, stubborn and stupid because we won’t dome our stadium got it. Because Detroit was smart putting a dome on there stadium the Bills will play there once or twice a year in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo Are they doing to dome the entire region so the roads are not closed? 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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