Big Turk Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Try putting your thumb underneath the ball and your index finger in between the first and second lack(with your index finger barely touching the back part of the first lace), and then spread out your fingers to go in between the laces. You want to feel the ball solidly remain balanced when you hold it, not tilted either forward or backwards. Then when you go to throw it, snap and twist your wrist as you let the ball go, which imparts spin on the ball and should eventually produce a nice spiral once you practice it enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Italian Bills said: North side, one hour by car from Milano, narrow swisse You ? Are you in Piemonte or Lombardia? You must not be too far from Monza! Edited October 30, 2022 by Nextmanup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 12 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: Throwing the ball wasn't his problem. JP could sling it. You're ok with him thinking about boogers during the game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 5 hours ago, Italian Bills said: Hello everybody. As you know i’m from Italy and since more than 30 years i’m a Bills diehard fan also. It seem a stupid request i know, but thanks in advance for your help. 😇🏈🏈🏈 Have some more wine before throwing and the you will see the perfect spiral 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Dan Darragh said: You're ok with him thinking about boogers during the game? I didn't say his brain functioned correctly. I said he could throw a nice ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Bills Posted October 30, 2022 Author Share Posted October 30, 2022 20 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Are you in Piemonte or Lombaria? You must not be too far from Monza! Very close. Look for MORBEGNO (SO) and you get me 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal2dagame Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: within a week Palmer would be tweeting that Italian Bills is among the best QB prospects he has ever coached. Simms already has this guy in his top 40... Well, in their defense, they weren't wrong about the last guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, loyal2dagame said: Well, in their defense, they weren't wrong about the last guy. which guy? Palmer hypes all of his clients. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal2dagame Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Really? You have to ask? Simms doesn't hype everybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 3 hours ago, Nextmanup said: Put the tips of your fingers along the laces on the football. Let the ball roll off the ends of your fingers as you throw. The idea is to impart a spin on the ball. If the ball is spinning tightly, it will go straight. This is good advice. If you watch some Youtube videos, I'm sure you'll be able to see the technique. But a warning: not all QB grips the ball exactly the same way. Every human hand is a bit different and some QBs have their own personal preferences. How many fingertips you have on the strings and how far your fingers overlap the strings may be somewhat different from whatever vid you watch. Like BringBackFergy, I used to only have 2 fingers on the laces. Malcolm Gladwell says you can master any task with 10,000 hours of practice. Get busy and good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 3 hours ago, Italian Bills said: Very close. Look for MORBEGNO (SO) and you get me 😄 I'm coming to visit! Gorgeous! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Well as someone who has played football and coached quarterbacks for a long time I will say there’s not one motion Everybody’s different From your classic over the top like Jim Kelly To a three-quarter SideArm like Philip Rivers Me personally as a lefty, I’ve always had a three-quarter SideArm delivery… Yet great spiral and touch The biggest key is finding the correct grip for your hand size on the ball… What feels the best between the laces Quick snappy motion …. The softer you toss the harder it is to throw a spiral… So if you put some juice behind it and Snap your wrist at the release it will greatly help Not to mention all the foot work stuff that we could get into but that’s not important right now Find the grip and release that feels good to you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, Italian Bills said: Hello everybody. As you know i’m from Italy and since more than 30 years i’m a Bills diehard fan also. I have an original football and i would love to learn how to throw it perfectly, with a perfect spiral. When sitting on my armchair i’m able to throw it up very well but if i try to throw the football when i’m in my yard, i can’t have a good spiral. Some advise ? I watched some video but without good results. It seem a stupid request i know, but thanks in advance for your help. 😇🏈🏈🏈 You probabkt weren't watching a GOOD video; YouTube is full of helpful videos. Maybe you aren't meant to play football. Edited October 30, 2022 by Herb Nightly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Herb Nightly said: You probabkt weren't watching a GOOD video; YouTube is full of helpful videos. Maybe you aren't meant to play football. I think after reading all this , our friend has the best help he could wish for right here ! Go Bills Edited October 30, 2022 by 3rdand12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 I suggest posting of video showing us how you are currently throwing the football. Then let all of us send our corrections/instructions. That should be helpful. O almeno divertente! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjohns85 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 11 hours ago, Italian Bills said: Hello everybody. As you know i’m from Italy and since more than 30 years i’m a Bills diehard fan also. I have an original football and i would love to learn how to throw it perfectly, with a perfect spiral. When sitting on my armchair i’m able to throw it up very well but if i try to throw the football when i’m in my yard, i can’t have a good spiral. Some advise ? I watched some video but without good results. It seem a stupid request i know, but thanks in advance for your help. 😇🏈🏈🏈 Make sure you are gripping the ball properly. It’s the number one factor into throwing a spiral. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonyab1974 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 7 hours ago, Italian Bills said: North side, one hour by car from Milano, narrow swisse You ? I'm from the United States, but my mom is from Naples! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Bills Posted October 30, 2022 Author Share Posted October 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Nextmanup said: I'm coming to visit! Gorgeous! If you will ever come, let me know, i’d be very happy to meet and have some good time. Over here there are many many great places to visit. 2 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Well as someone who has played football and coached quarterbacks for a long time I will say there’s not one motion Everybody’s different From your classic over the top like Jim Kelly To a three-quarter SideArm like Philip Rivers Me personally as a lefty, I’ve always had a three-quarter SideArm delivery… Yet great spiral and touch The biggest key is finding the correct grip for your hand size on the ball… What feels the best between the laces Quick snappy motion …. The softer you toss the harder it is to throw a spiral… So if you put some juice behind it and Snap your wrist at the release it will greatly help Not to mention all the foot work stuff that we could get into but that’s not important right now Find the grip and release that feels good to you I’ll try and let you know how will work 1 hour ago, Herb Nightly said: You probabkt weren't watching a GOOD video; YouTube is full of helpful videos. Maybe you aren't meant to play football. Videos are good but have people to teach me is way better. Also of course i didn’t practice enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Bills Posted October 30, 2022 Author Share Posted October 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Robert James said: I suggest posting of video showing us how you are currently throwing the football. Then let all of us send our corrections/instructions. That should be helpful. O almeno divertente! It could be the right thing to do. I’ll do that in this days. 37 minutes ago, sonyab1974 said: I'm from the United States, but my mom is from Naples! Lucky of you being from US. 😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Find a grip you’re comfortable with and don’t hold the ball flat against the palm. This will help the ball roll off the fingers for tight spirals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheels Not So Golden Now Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 From biography about Archie Manning (his two sons were pretty decent throwers): Coach Johnny Vaught’s instructions to Archie Manning on passing. Grip the ball with the fingers overlapping the laces slightly behind the middle of the ball. Grip firm but not hard, remember, fingers not the palm should grip the ball. If you can push the index finger of your hand between your palm and the ball, you have the proper grip. You can control the ball with your fingers but not with the palm. When delivering the ball, the quarterback’s action of transferring weight from back foot to front foot, leading with the front foot, and developing the follow through with the arm should be a rhythmical, fluid motion. Prior to the weight transfer, get the ball above the head by extending the arm. The left hand can only guide the ball up part of the way. If you attempt to let the left hand guide the ball all of the way up, it will destroy the rhythm. After getting the ball up, attempt to coordinate the weight transfer and the “darting technique” of throwing the ball. By attempting to throw the ball like you throw a dart, you emphasize finger control. The fingers are the last parts of the body to touch the ball. The fingers release the ball from the little finger to the index finger. Rotate the wrist away from the body. The index finger is the last finger to touch the ball and it is with this finger that you put RPMs on the ball. The sequence: Stand tall and balanced; ball high; step with the left foot and point with the left arm; dart the ball – put RPMs with fingers; follow through with right foot. Three common faults the passer must recognize. 1. Ball going high to target – Indicates early release by fingers. 2. Ball going low to target – Indicates late release by fingers. 3. Ball wobbly - Indicates inward rotation of wrist instead of outward rotation which allows finger control. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloTX Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Practice, practice, practice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 How’s your tackling form? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 On 10/30/2022 at 4:58 AM, Italian Bills said: Hello everybody. As you know i’m from Italy and since more than 30 years i’m a Bills diehard fan also. I have an original football and i would love to learn how to throw it perfectly, with a perfect spiral. When sitting on my armchair i’m able to throw it up very well but if i try to throw the football when i’m in my yard, i can’t have a good spiral. Some advise ? I watched some video but without good results. It seem a stupid request i know, but thanks in advance for your help. 😇🏈🏈🏈 https://youtu.be/PeiwvKtyxdI This is the video that showed me I was throwing the ball wrong. This Joe Montana guy might just know something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventeen Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Nice website with QB grips ... many ways to hold it. https://qbgrip.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Jordan Palmer turned Allen into a Superstar. Here’s his website https://www.qbsummit.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 1 hour ago, BarleyNY said: https://youtu.be/PeiwvKtyxdI This is the video that showed me I was throwing the ball wrong. This Joe Montana guy might just know something. Just watched the video, and enjoyed it! I loved this comment beneath the video: "After watching Joe's video, I'm the new starting qb for my 8th grade team. And I'm only 35." 😂 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 On 10/30/2022 at 7:42 AM, BringBackFergy said: Go to the one minute mark. Pretty good explanation of how Josh throws the ball. Really, only one or two fingers are on the laces. If you put all 5 fingers on the laces you’ll helicopter it (like my daughter when she was 9 years old.) I heard you shouldn't throw you kids till they're about 12 years old. That way they won't helicopter so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WickedGame Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Have you considered sitting on the football and throwing the armchair instead? Worth a try… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 On 10/30/2022 at 4:58 AM, Italian Bills said: Hello everybody. As you know i’m from Italy and since more than 30 years i’m a Bills diehard fan also. I have an original football and i would love to learn how to throw it perfectly, with a perfect spiral. When sitting on my armchair i’m able to throw it up very well but if i try to throw the football when i’m in my yard, i can’t have a good spiral. Some advise ? I watched some video but without good results. It seem a stupid request i know, but thanks in advance for your help. 😇🏈🏈🏈 1. Start off by just using the flick of wrist. Starting out its not about how far the ball goes but to see the result of just a flick wrist throw. 2. now that you did that 30 or so times and have learned the spiral through the wrist its about arm throw timing with wrist flick. 3. start out with 1/4th or 1/2 arm throw timing that flick of wrist. between step one and 3 is about 60 throws. you can do this fast with a few extra footballs and someone helping. now go long arm throw. by now the flick timing should be good. 75 throws a day just doing this every day for a few days a week will have that spiral working like a pro. Follow finger placement on threads just like the 100 or so video's i am sure you watched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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