Hochul

[Big Blitz]

RCP latest avg:

 

Hochul 49

Zeldin 43

NY is in play.  Wow.

 

Coumo won by 22 in 2018.  He was going to be POTUS LOLOLOLOL

 

 

The Democrat party is an absolute disaster.  Too caught up in TDS to realize what a cluster f*** they have turned this country - and with their like minded cohorts - around the world 

 

Edited October 27, 2022 by Big Blitz

[Doc]

Hochul will win.  And more people will flee.

[KDIGGZ]

16 hours ago, Chef Jim said:

Do you not feel PPP was something that was needed?  

I would suggest the majority was not. It was highly abused, which has been well documented. I know from experience. A lot of already rich people who didn't need it got even richer. And then to make it so it didn't need to be repaid was the kicker.

 

Like most socialist programs, folks are operating under the guise that people will do the right things in life when in reality people will do the opposite when given the opportunity to cheat the system. The thinking is it's a free handout so even though that person doesn't need it they might as well take it because everyone else is.

Edited October 27, 2022 by KDIGGZ

[ALF]

NYC decides national and statewide races , will be interesting how they choose with their high crime rate. In the debate Zeldin said Pegula should pay for his own stadium not the State and Casino money.

[Chef Jim]

7 hours ago, KDIGGZ said:

I would suggest the majority was not. It was highly abused, which has been well documented. I know from experience. A lot of already rich people who didn't need it got even richer. And then to make it so it didn't need to be repaid was the kicker.

 

Like most socialist programs, folks are operating under the guise that people will do the right things in life when in reality people will do the opposite when given the opportunity to cheat the system. The thinking is it's a free handout so even though that person doesn't need it they might as well take it because everyone else is.

Sure there was abuse.  These types of things always get abused.  But the majority?  And you base this on experience?  Do tell.  
 

You do understand why they were forgivable don’t you?  

Edited October 27, 2022 by Chef Jim

[KDIGGZ]

55 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

Sure there was abuse.  These types of things always get abused.  But the majority?  And you base this on experience?  Do tell.  
 

You do understand why they were forgivable don’t you?  

It was the biggest abuse in possibly the history of this country (not counting the ongoing abuse of welfare, medicare, rent assistance, other long term socialist programs) and not a lot of people are talking about it. I wasn't even talking about the obvious fraud committed by people overseas or by giving false info. Right off the bat that is probably 1/4 of it right there. You could Google the name of a company and get all the details you needed and put false phone number and address, it was really that easy. They were sending money first and asking questions later. Just a total trainwreck of a process from the start. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1279664

 

Surely you understand that I can't say how I know but I'd wager that 7 out of 10 cases I came across from actual companies were very very wealthy individuals that clearly did not have to sell their 3rd or 4th house to be able to keep payroll going. In fact they were buying more houses, cars, etc with the extra dough. It wasn't hard to inflate the numbers to maximize their payouts either. Popular belief was that the money had to be used on payroll only and that's not true, it was pretty much all operating expenses to keep the business running including rent, mortgage, utilities, operating costs, etc which were much easier to fudge the numbers on.

 

The only people I know personally who needed the payroll money owned restaurants/bars and there were ways to cut hours temporarily and still accept the PPP because technically you weren't laying people off. They definitely didn't need the money and the salaries of those types of employees is already low because they work mostly for tips. Do you think they were making as much in tips with nobody going out during that time? Was their salary increased after getting the PPP money? Absolutely not. It didn't end up in the right hands.

 

Basically it was a complete money grab and I personally know some wealthy folks who got even richer off of this. One guy we know made so much that he bought a 3 story condo with an elevator in FL, a speed boat, and a new Corvette. His income was never impacted because his business was deemed essential from the start but that didn't stop him from collecting millions in PPP! True story.

[B-Man]

 

[Chef Jim]

38 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

It was the biggest abuse in possibly the history of this country (not counting the ongoing abuse of welfare, medicare, rent assistance, other long term socialist programs) and not a lot of people are talking about it. I wasn't even talking about the obvious fraud committed by people overseas or by giving false info. Right off the bat that is probably 1/4 of it right there. You could Google the name of a company and get all the details you needed and put false phone number and address, it was really that easy. They were sending money first and asking questions later. Just a total trainwreck of a process from the start. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1279664

 

Surely you understand that I can't say how I know but I'd wager that 7 out of 10 cases I came across from actual companies were very very wealthy individuals that clearly did not have to sell their 3rd or 4th house to be able to keep payroll going. In fact they were buying more houses, cars, etc with the extra dough. It wasn't hard to inflate the numbers to maximize their payouts either. Popular belief was that the money had to be used on payroll only and that's not true, it was pretty much all operating expenses to keep the business running including rent, mortgage, utilities, operating costs, etc which were much easier to fudge the numbers on.

 

The only people I know personally who needed the payroll money owned restaurants/bars and there were ways to cut hours temporarily and still accept the PPP because technically you weren't laying people off. They definitely didn't need the money and the salaries of those types of employees is already low because they work mostly for tips. Do you think they were making as much in tips with nobody going out during that time? Was their salary increased after getting the PPP money? Absolutely not. It didn't end up in the right hands.

 

Basically it was a complete money grab and I personally know some wealthy folks who got even richer off of this. One guy we know made so much that he bought a 3 story condo with an elevator in FL, a speed boat, and a new Corvette. His income was never impacted because his business was deemed essential from the start but that didn't stop him from collecting millions in PPP! True story.

So those working for tips?   What tips?   Yeah fug em.  
 

Yes it was abused because it was hastily put together because it needed to be thrown together. This damn thing moved fast.  People were not working and couldn’t collect unemployment because as you said they were still employed. 

 

Now let’s work on the comparison between this and the student loan forgiveness.  This is the true conversation we’re having.  They are not even remotely similar. 

[KDIGGZ]

7 hours ago, Chef Jim said:

So those working for tips?   What tips?   Yeah fug em.  
 

Yes it was abused because it was hastily put together because it needed to be thrown together. This damn thing moved fast.  People were not working and couldn’t collect unemployment because as you said they were still employed. 

 

Now let’s work on the comparison between this and the student loan forgiveness.  This is the true conversation we’re having.  They are not even remotely similar. 

Employee Rentention Program is the next thing coming.  They are just giving away free money as a bonus for those businesses that kept on their employees.  

[B-Man]

Where's Kathy? NY Governor disappears after debate with GOP challenger

 

The following day, Hochul showed up at a senior citizens’ center in Times Plaza where she individually spoke with a few dozen residents over lunch. Reporters were directed to the lobby of the building for a press gaggle by the Governor’s spokeswoman. But they waited in vain after Hochul was bustled out of a back door. Reporters running outside to catch her only managed to get a glimpse of her SUV as it sped away. 
 

https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2022/10/27/wheres-kathy-ny-governor-disappears-after-debate-with-gop-challenger-n506108

[Big Blitz]

They’re in full on panic 

[Irv]

Dems Running Scared

 

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[Precision]

Surprised no one has mentioned the murder in Cheektowaga.  A tragedy that would have been avoided if not for the bail reform legislation.

 

NY man sprung on no bail in Facebook-posted beating executes wife in front of kids just hours later: cops

 

He was arraigned in Cheektowaga Town Court on Oct. 4 but was released because state law prevented the judge from setting bail due to the low-level of the charges, Erie County District Attorney John J. Flynn said.

“There was zero evidence for anything higher than that,” Flynn said of the misdemeanor charges. “The charges were correctly charged. The judge had no choice but to release this person.”

Adding insult to injury, under the bail reforms enacted by the Democratic-controlled state Legislature and upheld by Hochul, the judge couldn’t even consider Bennefield’s 2000 conviction and 15-year prison sentence for kidnapping an ex-girlfriend and another woman at gunpoint because the Empire State is one of the few across the US that doesn’t allow judges to weigh the “dangerousness” of a perp in considering bail.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

All the rational  republicans out there need to admit trumpy nonsense opened the door to a lot of terrible anything but trump political outcomes. 
 

and we all see the policy disaster that’s has resulted top to bottom. 

[Wacka]

Why doesn't Hocul just go back to gnawing wood and building dams?

 

Live in Cheektowaga and have not seen any Hocul signs.

Edited November 2, 2022 by Wacka

[Buftex]

On 10/26/2022 at 9:27 PM, Doc said:

Hochul will win.  And more people will flee.

If a bunch of MAGA #######s leave great!  

[Irv]

Hochul. What a complete failure.  How do you lose when you have a 2-1 majority?  It’s because you’re an unequivocal idiot.  What a mess.  

[All_Pro_Bills]

58 minutes ago, Irv said:

Hochul. What a complete failure.  How do you lose when you have a 2-1 majority?  It’s because you’re an unequivocal idiot.  What a mess.  

I call her "The Joker".  She's always got that fake and creepy smile on her face.  People that are always smiling are either phonies or nuts.  She's obsessed with talking about abortion while surrounded by gunfire and crime as she's speaking in NYC.  Maybe letting all socialist Democrats get abortions is a good idea?  Over time, it will get rid of all of them as they stop breeding and multiplying!   

Edited November 2, 2022 by All_Pro_Bills

[Greg S]

The only good thing I will say about Hochul is she helped get the Bills new stadium deal in place securing the team's future in WNY. Even though taxpayers will foot the bill. Besides that, she is a disaster. The fact that the Governor's race is close in hard core blue NY tells you that.

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

50 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

I call her "The Joker".  She's always got that fake and creepy smile on her face.  People that are always smiling are either phonies or nuts.  She's obsessed with talking about abortion while surrounded by gunfire and crime as she's speaking in NYC.  Maybe letting all socialist Democrats get abortions is a good idea?  Over time, it will get rid of all of them as they stop breeding and multiplying!   

She was second in line in an administration that cooked the books on COVID deaths, participated in placing gravely ill people in nursing homes where the most vulnerable of our population reside, and was conspicuously silent when Cuomo was apparently groping just about any woman he could get his hands on while he was in office.  Meanwhile, there is apparently no plan to deal with the byproduct of the sanctuary state plan when people actually need sanctuary, NYC is shaking apart at the seams and police are retiring and getting out in droves. 
 

Naturally, she’s the perfect choice for Governor. 

[Irv]

13 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

She was second in line in an administration that cooked the books on COVID deaths, participated in placing gravely ill people in nursing homes where the most vulnerable of our population reside, and was conspicuously silent when Cuomo was apparently groping just about any woman he could get his hands on while he was in office.  Meanwhile, there is apparently no plan to deal with the byproduct of the sanctuary state plan when people actually need sanctuary, NYC is shaking apart at the seams and police are retiring and getting out in droves. 
 

Naturally, she’s the perfect choice for Governor. 

Agreed.  Let’s not forget she paid 2x the going rate for COVID tests to a donor on a non-bid contract. What a crook. What a mess.  

[PetermansRedemption]

9 hours ago, Buftex said:

If a bunch of MAGA #######s leave great!  

I’m not going to get into politics, however, you do realize that the majority of people fleeing New York are higher income earners? No matter what your political affiliation is, that’s a bad thing for the remaining tax payers in the state. 

[Irv]

Her name is too much like Hochuli.  Another reason to hate her.  

 

 

Edited November 2, 2022 by Irv

[SoCal Deek]

47 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said:

I’m not going to get into politics, however, you do realize that the majority of people fleeing New York are higher income earners? No matter what your political affiliation is, that’s a bad thing for the remaining tax payers in the state. 

One party rule is always a disaster. No matter which party is in charge. This country (and most States) thrives when there’s a healthy balance of ideas and policies. California is the poster child for one party rule and the decline is apparent everywhere you look. Really sad.

[Orlando Tim]

10 hours ago, Buftex said:

If a bunch of MAGA #######s leave great!  

So anyone who doesn't like giving the government an extra 15k a year now is MAGA? 

[Tiberius]

11 hours ago, Buftex said:

If a bunch of MAGA #######s leave great!  

It’s like flushing the toilet 

[Chef Jim]

2 hours ago, PetermansRedemption said:

I’m not going to get into politics, however, you do realize that the majority of people fleeing New York are higher income earners? No matter what your political affiliation is, that’s a bad thing for the remaining tax payers in the state. 

Same thing here in California.  We’re bleeding large companies and company headquarters that employ many and feed our economy and fill our tax coffers.  Anyone who says “bye and don’t let the door hit you on the ass on your way out” is a dolt. 

13 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

It’s like flushing the toilet 

So letting unchecked immigrants in is cool but causing  high tax paying individuals/companies to leave is also cool.  You’re whacked. 

[Doc]

6 hours ago, PetermansRedemption said:

I’m not going to get into politics, however, you do realize that the majority of people fleeing New York are higher income earners? No matter what your political affiliation is, that’s a bad thing for the remaining tax payers in the state. 

 

No, he/she clearly does not.

[EasternOHBillsFan]

On 11/2/2022 at 8:23 AM, Greg S said:

The only good thing I will say about Hochul is she helped get the Bills new stadium deal in place securing the team's future in WNY. Even though taxpayers will foot the bill. Besides that, she is a disaster. The fact that the Governor's race is close in hard core blue NY tells you that.

 

All the Bills Mafia Zeldin voters will have to answer if Zeldin f**** with the stadium deal and it collapses... you will be responsible for the consequences and I don't want to hear word one from you.

[Chef Jim]

4 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

 

All the Bills Mafia Zeldin voters will have to answer if Zeldin f**** with the stadium deal and it collapses... you will be responsible for the consequences and I don't want to hear word one from you.

That’s your concern if Zeldin wins? That taxpayers will not have to pay for a new stadium when there is a fully functioning recently renovated stadium already in place? I’d vote for him for that reason alone if I lived in NY.  

[SCBills]

46 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

 

All the Bills Mafia Zeldin voters will have to answer if Zeldin f**** with the stadium deal and it collapses... you will be responsible for the consequences and I don't want to hear word one from you.

This seems like a completely unfounded and baseless worry. 

[Doc]

39 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

That’s your concern if Zeldin wins? That taxpayers will not have to pay for a new stadium when there is a fully functioning recently renovated stadium already in place? I’d vote for him for that reason alone if I lived in NY.  

 

The recent renovations can't save the upper deck from collapsing.  And from what I've heard, the deal is irrevocable anyway.

[Chef Jim]

19 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

The recent renovations can't save the upper deck from collapsing.  And from what I've heard, the deal is irrevocable anyway.

So they renovated a collapsing stadium?  
 

I guess I’d have to be paying attention to know it was collapsing.  Hope y’all have fun at the home games.  Wear hard hats. 

[Doc]

6 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

So they renovated a collapsing stadium?  
 

I guess I’d have to be paying attention to know it was collapsing.  Hope y’all have fun at the home games.  Wear hard hats. 

 

The last renovations were 10 years ago.  That was pre-Pegulas.

[Chef Jim]

10 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

The last renovations were 10 years ago.  That was pre-Pegulas.

No the last renovations were done in 2018. 
 

The major renovations were in 2013. What a massive waste of money to tear it down.  

[B-Man]

 

 

NEW YORK’S HOCHUL CRIME MESS: 

 

Krazy Kat denies crime’s a problem — but Hillary Clinton lets the truth slip.

 

 

https://nypost.com/2022/11/04/hochul-denies-crimes-a-problem-but-hillary-clinton-lets-truth-slip/

 

 

 

[Chef Jim]

5 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

NEW YORK’S HOCHUL CRIME MESS: 

 

Krazy Kat denies crime’s a problem — but Hillary Clinton lets the truth slip.

 

 

https://nypost.com/2022/11/04/hochul-denies-crimes-a-problem-but-hillary-clinton-lets-truth-slip/

 

 

 

That’s an awkward picture. 😬