tbonehawaii Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 Ugh. Re-watching the game on NFL network now. After the safety and free kick we had the ball on our 23. If he got off the quick punt we would like have had the ball with 1:33 around their forty (or better). with four downs I think it is more likely than not we would have scored a TD. )= lets hope all the bad luck landed on this game 3 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 (edited) That is a big assumption given the way the rest of the second half went IMO. Lots of little things coudl have flipped the outcome. They were moving it easily between the 20's...the way it played out gave them a great chance, they just needed to get in FG range but Quessenberry held and messed it up. Dont blame him a lot given the fact he was spent though. If the ball landed in the endzone and Bills recover they take the lead right there.... Edited September 29, 2022 by Matt_In_NH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwater cadet Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, tbonehawaii said: Ugh. Re-watching the game on NFL network now. After the safety and free kick we had the ball on our 23. If he got off the quick punt we would like have had the ball with 1:33 around their forty (or better). with four downs I think it is more likely than not we would have scored a TD. )= lets hope all the bad luck landed on this game I was think the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phypon Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 No, just no. They couldn't get into FG range and you think they would have scored a TD? Just no. 2 3 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 8 minutes ago, tbonehawaii said: Ugh. Re-watching the game on NFL network now. After the safety and free kick we had the ball on our 23. If he got off the quick punt we would like have had the ball with 1:33 around their forty (or better). with four downs I think it is more likely than not we would have scored a TD. )= lets hope all the bad luck landed on this game Why was it more likely than not the Bills would score a TD? Did you watch any of the game prior to that punt? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 I caught a little heat in one of the other threads, but my opinion was it was more favorable the way things happened. They were basically in field goal range to win the game, they were just a little sloppy with the clock. The punt surely gives them a short field if they execute it. But now you gotta throw the touchdown and Allen threw some questionable passes in the 4th quarter. It’s just as likely he would have to force throws into the end zone and the odds are probably higher for a turnover than scoring the actual touchdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 19 minutes ago, tbonehawaii said: Ugh. Re-watching the game on NFL network now. After the safety and free kick we had the ball on our 23. If he got off the quick punt we would like have had the ball with 1:33 around their forty (or better). with four downs I think it is more likely than not we would have scored a TD. )= lets hope all the bad luck landed on this game Another what if. It is more likely we would have had a better field position, so maybe we get into field goal range. But maybe we run different plays and have worse results? The events coming cannot be predicted. What if Josh hits McKenzie for a TD? Maybe our defense gives up a TD? Who knows? It's over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 I would rather have fielded the punt from the end zone, down four, than from a free kick, down two. Said it at the time of the butt punt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 (edited) 46 minutes ago, tbonehawaii said: Ugh. Re-watching the game on NFL network now. After the safety and free kick we had the ball on our 23. If he got off the quick punt we would like have had the ball with 1:33 around their forty (or better). with four downs I think it is more likely than not we would have scored a TD. )= lets hope all the bad luck landed on this game We had a minute and a half to get into field goal range. Our offense was completely gassed and we blew it. No need to over analyze. Edited September 29, 2022 by Billz4ever 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 37 minutes ago, Bob in STL said: Another what if. It is more likely we would have had a better field position, so maybe we get into field goal range. But maybe we run different plays and have worse results? The events coming cannot be predicted. What if Josh hits McKenzie for a TD? Maybe our defense gives up a TD? Who knows? It's over. Totally agree. Close losses always cause "What If Mania." Very few games are decided by one play; this one included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Suffering Fan Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 1 hour ago, tbonehawaii said: Ugh. Re-watching the game on NFL network now. After the safety and free kick we had the ball on our 23. If he got off the quick punt we would like have had the ball with 1:33 around their forty (or better). with four downs I think it is more likely than not we would have scored a TD. )= lets hope all the bad luck landed on this game Here is a better "what if" - given that the ball was going off the backside of someone bending over, it could have easily gone forward. Instead of the safety (it only went out the back by about 5 yards), it could have gone slightly forward and we could have has a TD...or maybe had it at the 10 or 20. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPL Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 37 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: We had a minute and a half to get into field goal range. Our offense was completely gassed and we blew it. No need to over analyze. Agreed... not to mention the fact that we had the ball in the red zone multiple times in the 2nd half and couldn't score a single touchdown. The ball control plan was amazing—until it backfired in the 2nd half. I am convinced that Josh short-armed that ball to McKenzie because he had absolutely nothing left in the tank. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tierlifer Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 I think the free punt by Morstead that ended up being a booming one downfield that pinned Buffalo pretty deep was a huge play that didn’t get talked about enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 23 minutes ago, Long Suffering Fan said: Here is a better "what if" - given that the ball was going off the backside of someone bending over, it could have easily gone forward. Instead of the safety (it only went out the back by about 5 yards), it could have gone slightly forward and we could have has a TD...or maybe had it at the 10 or 20. Exactly….we needed it to come down in the end zone and not two yards out the back of the end zone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 Best case scenario would have been if the ball had lodged in the blocker's backside and he fell over just outside of the endzone. Then we would have gotten great field position and a lengthy rest while they stopped play to extract the ball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, phypon said: No, just no. They couldn't get into FG range and you think they would have scored a TD? Just no. Had to go similar distances… not really that outlandish. To get into the FG range, Allen didn’t have the option of throwing anywhere on the field. When he had to, we all saw the outcome.. time ran out. Every play was a broken play with that decimated OL. I’m much, MUCH more confident in Allen getting one chunk play from the Miami 40/45 down to the 25 and then having the ability to throw anywhere in the end zone than I am him having to work the sidelines after a throw in-bounds when he had zero time to let a route develop and WR’s running routes half speed. Edited September 29, 2022 by SCBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stonada Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: Best case scenario would have been if the ball had lodged in the blocker's backside and he fell over just outside of the endzone. Then we would have gotten great field position and a lengthy rest while they stopped play to extract the ball. So that’s why they call ya the Brown Bear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 24 minutes ago, Tierlifer said: I think the free punt by Morstead that ended up being a booming one downfield that pinned Buffalo pretty deep was a huge play that didn’t get talked about enough. It was an absolute bomb exactly when they needed it. If he uncorks a routine 50 yarder or so, and the Bills don’t get a holding penalty, you’re talking about 25 more yards there at least for a FG. One of the strangest games I can remember where the Bills dominated everywhere but the scoreboard. Felt worse than the Patriots wind game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 1 hour ago, phypon said: No, just no. They couldn't get into FG range and you think they would have scored a TD? Just no. it’s not much of a stretch. The moved the ball about the same distance down the field that they did on the final drive would have put them inside the15 with end zone shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, djp14150 said: it’s not much of a stretch. The moved the ball about the same distance down the field that they did on the final drive would have put them inside the15 with end zone shots. And then they ran out of time….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 (edited) Nah - several Bills gaffes throughout the game saved Miami. Edited September 29, 2022 by Azucho98 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 40 minutes ago, FireChans said: And then they ran out of time….. No…they take the clock prior to that last play…they shoot for the end zone at the 15… not over the middle plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 When I watched it again, I couldnt believe how far back the Miami player whose butt blocked the punt was. If he taken just one more step back, the ball would have hit him under his butt and bounced down into the endzone. Bills could have covered it for a TD. In addition, had the Dolphin player been slightly further forward the ball would have been partially blocked and gone forward and only come out of the endzone maybe to the 20, which once again puts the Bills in an excellent position to win with a short field. All told the Bills didnt get any breaks in that game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Livinginthepast said: When I watched it again, I couldnt believe how far back the Miami player whose butt blocked the punt was. If he taken just one more step back, the ball would have hit him under his butt and bounced down into the endzone. Bills could have covered it for a TD. In addition, had the Dolphin player been slightly further forward the ball would have been partially blocked and gone forward and only come out of the endzone maybe to the 20, which once again puts the Bills in an excellent position to win with a short field. All told the Bills didnt get any breaks in that game. I'd call the Dolphins punting one, unpressured, off of a guy's butt for a safety with less than two minutes remaining to cut it to 2 a "break" for the Bills. Could have been a better break, but a break nonetheless. But other than that? Yeah, we didn't have much in the way of luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Only because the free kick was insane…an average free kick and we likely win that game easily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, djp14150 said: it’s not much of a stretch. The moved the ball about the same distance down the field that they did on the final drive would have put them inside the15 with end zone shots. And how many drives did we watch that very game where they were unable to get the ball in the endzone? Had they been able to do that on any of the many possessions they had deep into Miami territory, we wouldn't even be having this conversation because they would've won the game without needing any late game heroics. Given the struggles to get it in the endzone, only needing a FG to win was probably best case for them. They had a minute and a half to get into FG range. They were physically spent and couldn't get it done. End of story. Edited September 30, 2022 by Billz4ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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