We don't have the mentality to win close games

[BullBuchanan]

9 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Ok again bias.  When it comes to one score games you say that the overall body of work doesnt count but his record for games when down by 10 at halftime his overall body of work somehow does count.  Thats some serious mental gymnastics.  Maybe you should take a break.

I said none of those things.

[Scott7975]

2 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

I said none of those things.

 

Ya literally just did.  Take a break.  You dont even know your own argument anymore.

Edited October 3, 2022 by Scott7975

[BullBuchanan]

16 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Again that wasnt 3 years ago.  Thats two years ago + 4 games.  Do you call yourself a year older when your birthday isnt for another 5 or 6 months?

It's 3 football seasons dude. I'm just asking you to count to three not to do calculus.

1 minute ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Ya literally just did.  Take a break.  You dont even know your own argument anymore.

I won't take responsibility for you miscomprehending information.

14 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

I literally just looked at the exact last two years of games.  It is not wrong.  This year + last year is not two full years.  We are four games into the season.  I skipped the first four games of 2020. You need a break bro.

Well that's your problem. count to three and go back one more year.

[DrDawkinstein]

28 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

It wasn't a specific period of time though. It's not like it's some arbitrary slice of past data that has no relevancy.

 

But also.

 

28 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

It was every game from the Hail Murray-present.

 

I'm dyin. 🤣

[4merper4mer]

6 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

It's 3 football seasons dude. I'm just asking you to count to three not to do calculus.

I won't take responsibility for you miscomprehending information.

Well that's your problem. count to three and go back one more year.

In 2020 the Bills we’re 5-1 in one score games, 6-1 if you count the Colts playoff win.  Your “analysis” has them at 0-1 due to an arbitrary time line.  Why do the other 2020 one score games not count?  Why does the playoff game not count?  Are playoff games unimportant?

[Virgil]

Don't mind me.  I'm just here for the comments

[BullBuchanan]

in the regular season they were 4-5 in 2019, 6-1 in 2020 , 0-6, in 2021 and 1-1 in 2022. In 2019, they lost a one scroe playoff game tot he Texans, 2020, they picked up a one score playoff win against the colts and in 2021 a one score loss against the chiefs. Data including all games looks like this

17: 0,1,0,1,1,1,1,0
18: 1,0,1,0,0,1
19:  1,1,0,1,0,0,1,0,0,0
20: 1,1,1,1,1,1,0,1
21: 0,0,0,0,0,0,
22: 0,1,

it's  a 19-21 record from 2017 to date including playoffs.

19 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

In 2020 the Bills we’re 5-1 in one score games, 6-1 if you count the Colts playoff win.  Your “analysis” has them at 0-1 due to an arbitrary time line.  Why do the other 2020 one score games not count?  Why does the playoff game not count?  Are playoff games unimportant?

It's not my "analysis" it's just the common results everyone is referencing. I didn't discover it or create it. Also, there are 7 in a row if you count the playoffs or you don't, it just pushing the data tot he left or right.

Edited October 3, 2022 by BullBuchanan

[4merper4mer]

10 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

in the regular season they were 4-5 in 2019, 5-1 in 2020 , 0-6, in 2021 and 1-1 in 2022. In 2019, they lost a one scroe playoff game tot he Texans, 2020, they picked up a one score playoff win against the colts and in 2021 a one score loss against the chiefs. Data including all games looks like this

17: 0,1,0,1,1,1,1,0
18: 1,0,1,0,0,1
19:  1,1,0,1,0,0,1,0,0,0
20: 1,1,1,1,1,0,0,1
21: 0,0,0,0,0,0,
22: 0,1,

it's  a 19-21 record from 2017 to date including playoffs.

It's not my "analysis" it's just the common results everyone is referencing. I didn't discover it or create it. Also, there are 7 in a row if you count the playoffs or you don't, it just pushing the data tot he left or right.

Why do the games early in 2020 not matter but the game in AZ does?

[BullBuchanan]

Just now, 4merper4mer said:

Why do the games early in 2020 not matter but the game in AZ does?

who said they didn't matter?

[Warcodered]

43 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Ok again bias.  When it comes to one score games you say that the overall body of work doesnt count but his record for games when down by 10 at halftime his overall body of work somehow does count.  Thats some serious mental gymnastics.  Maybe you should take a break.

 

I literally just looked at the exact last two years of games.  It is not wrong.  This year + last year is not two full years.  We are four games into the season.  I skipped the first four games of 2020. You need a break bro.

So do you think the Ravens can't win at home?

[Marvin]

Hail, Murray, fur of face?

53 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

It was every game from the Hail Murray-present.

 

[Warcodered]

1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said:

It wasn't a specific period of time though. It was every game from the Hail Murray-present. It's not like it's some arbitrary slice of past data that has no relevancy. If someone wants to look up records by year, go ahead.

Did I ***** dream this game?

 

 

[BullBuchanan]

1 minute ago, Warcodered said:

Did I ***** dream this game?

 

 

This was already answered above.

[Scott7975]

44 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

It's 3 football seasons dude. I'm just asking you to count to three not to do calculus.

I won't take responsibility for you miscomprehending information.

Well that's your problem. count to three and go back one more year.

 

First you talk about only including two years in which you say the Bills are 1-7.  I show thats wrong.  Now you are telling me to go back 3 years.  Take a break. Your lost.

[BullBuchanan]

1 minute ago, Scott7975 said:

 

First you talk about only including two years in which you say the Bills are 1-7.  I show thats wrong.  Now you are telling me to go back 3 years.  Take a break. Your lost.

2 earth years started 3 football seasons ago.

[CircleTheWagons99]

37 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Don't mind me.  I'm just here for the comments

Its getting spicey 

[Scott7975]

16 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

So do you think the Ravens can't win at home?

 

They definitely cant if we draw the line at the last 5 home games.  Seems like its the only relevant measure.

[Warcodered]

2 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

First you talk about only including two years in which you say the Bills are 1-7.  I show thats wrong.  Now you are telling me to go back 3 years.  Take a break. Your lost.

All you have to do is pick and choose around the data to get the results that he wants what aren't people getting.

 

[Scott7975]

7 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

2 earth years started 3 football seasons ago.

 

No *****. Thats what I been telling you this whole time.  The Bills are not 1-7 in the last two years which was your original claim.

 

This is your exact sentence "1-7 in the last two years and 0-13 under McD when trailing by 10 or more at the half, but all previous data now invalid."

 

You drunk or something?

Edited October 3, 2022 by Scott7975

[BullBuchanan]

6 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

No *****. Thats what I been telling you this whole time.  The Bills are not 1-7 in the last two years which was your original claim.

 

This is your exact sentence "1-7 in the last two years and 0-13 under McD when trailing by 10 or more at the half, but all previous data now invalid."

Dude. Please read this very, very slowly.

The Bills lost 7 regular season one-score games in a row going back to November 15th, 2020. which is 23 months or roughly 2 years.
Including playoff games the Bills lost 7 one-score games in a row starting the first game of the following season on September 15th 2021

Do with it what you wish.

Edited October 3, 2022 by BullBuchanan
clarifying for the simple

[Scott7975]

9 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

Dude. Please read this very, very slowly.

The Bills lost 7 regular season one-score games in a row going back to November 15th, 2020. which is 23 months or roughly 2 years.
Including playoff games the Bills lost 7 one-score games in a row starting the first game of the following season on September 15th 2021

Do with it what you wish.

 

Ok so I see.  You want to include months that arent actually football months.  Makes complete sense to count February, March, April, May, June, July, August when talking about football statistics.  You are manipulating your argument to make something sound worse than it is.

 

With that I am done because its just nonsense.

Edited October 3, 2022 by Scott7975

[BullBuchanan]

1 minute ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Ok so I see.  You want to include months that arent actually football months.  Makes complete sense to count February, March, April, May, June, July, August when talking about football statistics.  You are manipulating your argument to make something sound worse than it is.

You should check into concussion protocol.

[billsfan1959]

10 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

The Bills lost 7 regular season one-score games in a row going back to November 15th, 2020. which is 23 months or roughly 2 years.
Including playoff games the Bills lost 7 one-score games in a row starting the first game of the following season on September 15th 2021

Do with it what you wish.

 

There is nothing to do with it. It doesn't matter. It has absolutely zero relevance to anything current. Who really gives AF what they did or didn't do over the last two years?

[Malazan]

15 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

Dude. Please read this very, very slowly.

The Bills lost 7 regular season one-score games in a row going back to November 15th, 2020. which is 23 months or roughly 2 years.
Including playoff games the Bills lost 7 one-score games in a row starting the first game of the following season on September 15th 2021

Do with it what you wish.

 

When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging. 

[NoHuddleKelly12]

[Billsfan1972]

Why do some people take it so personally? It was a fact the Bills did not come back and were losing close games. Last 3+ years the Bills have been one of the top five teams in the NFL yet were not able to win close games. Really it is not an arguable point the statistics back it up.

 

The last close game that came back on was versus the Rams when they gave up a huge lead. I refuse to include the Patriots game when we barely survived Cam Newton at home or back door covers (ie Miami 2020).....

[teef]

1 minute ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Why do some people take it so personally? It was a fact the Bills did not come back and were losing close games. Last 3+ years the Bills have been one of the top five teams in the NFL yet were not able to win close games. Really it is not an arguable point the statistics back it up.

 

The last close game that came back on was versus the Rams when they gave up a huge lead. I refuse to include the Patriots game when we barely survived Cam Newton at home or back door covers (ie Miami 2020).....

so you're eliminating close games they won just because?  and i'm not sure the bolded is true.  maybe you're right, but can you show us?

[Augie]

15 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

You should check into concussion protocol.

 

Should he use ice or heat for those back spasms???

 

Last year we were as unfortunate in close games as we were fortunate the year before that. Going back, it averages out. 

 

 

.

 

Edited October 3, 2022 by Augie

[LeGOATski]

2 minutes ago, teef said:

so you're eliminating close games they won just because?  and i'm not sure the bolded is true.  maybe you're right, but can you show us?

It's not true. Since McDermott got there in 2017, the Bills are something like 33-23 when trailing to start the 4th quarter. It's just last season's misfortune that got everyone up in arms about it.

[teef]

1 minute ago, LeGOATski said:

It's not true. Since McDermott got there in 2017, the Bills are something like 33-23 when trailing to start the 4th quarter. It's just last season's misfortune that got everyone up in arms about it.

don't do his homework!  also, our man is eliminating close games the bills won because he wants to.  there's a lot wrong with his post.

[Simon]

2 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

Since McDermott got there in 2017, the Bills are something like 33-23 when trailing to start the 4th quarter.

 

That's actually incredible if true

[LeGOATski]

1 minute ago, teef said:

don't do his homework!  also, our man is eliminating close games the bills won because he wants to.  there's a lot wrong with his post.

***** early 70s fans...the worst.

[Billsfan1972]

7 minutes ago, teef said:

so you're eliminating close games they won just because?  and i'm not sure the bolded is true.  maybe you're right, but can you show us?

They were 13-3 in 2020.  Miami scored with 49 seconds left to get within 3.  Raiders scored with under 2 to get within 7.  Barely beating NE that year on a Newton fumble in the red zone nothing to put on your coaching resume.

[Scott7975]

13 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Why do some people take it so personally? It was a fact the Bills did not come back and were losing close games. Last 3+ years the Bills have been one of the top five teams in the NFL yet were not able to win close games. Really it is not an arguable point the statistics back it up.

 

The last close game that came back on was versus the Rams when they gave up a huge lead. I refuse to include the Patriots game when we barely survived Cam Newton at home or back door covers (ie Miami 2020).....

 

Show your work because the other poster has a different idea about what 3+ years of games actually means.  Are you talking Earth years, Football seasons, or years from the planet Zolton?

[Billsfan1972]

4 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

That's actually incredible if true

check snopes🤣.... So false......

[Gugny]

6 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Why do some people take it so personally? It was a fact the Bills did not come back and were losing close games. Last 3+ years the Bills have been one of the top five teams in the NFL yet were not able to win close games. Really it is not an arguable point the statistics back it up.

 

The last close game that came back on was versus the Rams when they gave up a huge lead. I refuse to include the Patriots game when we barely survived Cam Newton at home or back door covers (ie Miami 2020).....

 

3 minutes ago, teef said:

so you're eliminating close games they won just because?  and i'm not sure the bolded is true.  maybe you're right, but can you show us?

 

2019: 4-6 (one game was a week 17 throwaway game in which our backups played the Jets)

2020: 5-1

2021:  0-6

 

I don't know where that ranks league-wide, but I'd hardly call it a trend.  It's more likely that last season was a fluke.

 

 

 

[billsfan1959]

1 minute ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Barely beating NE that year on a Newton fumble in the red zone nothing to put on your coaching resume.

 

But they did win it. No?

[teef]

Just now, Billsfan1972 said:

They were 13-3 in 2020.  Miami scored with 49 seconds left to get within 3.  Raiders scored with under 2 to get within 7.  Barely beating NE that year on a Newton fumble in the red zone nothing to put on your coaching resume.

they're close games the bills won.  it counts whether you agree with it or not.  it's insane you don't think they count, and this is why you get the grief you do.  don't say something isn't arguable because stats back it up, then completely manipulate numbers so it works in you favor.  this has been the last few pages of this thread.  certain posters just want to look at last year and this year when it comes to close games.  that's not mcd's resume.  it's starts in 2017, so base his coaching talent in close games from that time at least.  was it bad in 2021...sure, but that single year doesn't show a picture of him overall as a coach in close games.  

2 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

 

2019: 4-6 (one game was a week 17 throwaway game in which our backups played the Jets)

2020: 5-1

2021:  0-6

 

I don't know where that ranks league-wide, but I'd hardly call it a trend.  It's more likely that last season was a fluke.

 

 

 

he won't be able to comprehend it.  

2 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

check snopes🤣.... So false......

show us then.

[cba fan]

1 minute ago, teef said:

they're close games the bills won.  it counts whether you agree with it or not.  it's insane you don't think they count, and this is why you get the grief you do.  don't say something isn't arguable because stats back it up, then completely manipulate numbers so it works in you favor.  this has been the last few pages of this thread.  certain posters just want to look at last year and this year when it comes to close games.  that's not mcd's resume.  it's starts in 2017, so base his coaching talent in close games from that time at least.  was it bad in 2021...sure, but that single year doesn't show a picture of him overall as a coach in close games.  

Bills pull away in 2nd half so close games don't occur all that much when they win.

[Scott7975]

1 minute ago, teef said:

they're close games the bills won.  it counts whether you agree with it or not.  it's insane you don't think they count, and this is why you get the grief you do.  don't say something isn't arguable because stats back it up, then completely manipulate numbers so it works in you favor.  this has been the last few pages of this thread.  certain posters just want to look at last year and this year when it comes to close games.  that's not mcd's resume.  it's starts in 2017, so base his coaching talent in close games from that time at least.  was it bad in 2021...sure, but that single year doesn't show a picture of him overall as a coach in close games.  

he won't be able to comprehend it.  

 

Hey Id let him do it if he actually went back through every teams games and removed the close ones with whatever imaginary criteria he uses for the Bills and then see where it stacks up.  He should respond to that in a few years time.