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Let’s say Buffalo is in a 3 WR set…

 

D needs to double Diggs and have 2 very good man on man corners to cover the other 2.

they need a player on Josh running/ underneath crossing routes/ short dumps.

4 rush the passer.

that leave 2 Dmen to handle Knox., RB, and help contain Josh.

 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

Zone D.  Front 4 pressure.  Stout against run in base nickel.  

 

Comes down to pressure and getting home a few times or at least keeping allen looking at the rush instead of downfield.  

That's what the Rams tried to do, and Josh just got the ball out really quickly to short to medium targets to negate the rush. 

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55 minutes ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said:

Make the Bills run the ball.  Easier said than done but they haven't proven they can switch up and run the ball consistently.  

 

They pretty much abandoned it against the Titans because the pass game was clicking....but I would be concerned if a D-Coord actually finds a way to take away the passing attack. Does anyone feel comfortable that the Bills can ground and pound it for a win?

 

Bad weather would be this team's undoing.  

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1 hour ago, buffalo2218 said:

I'm not sold on the running game being effective just yet. The Titans sold out to stop the run which I thought was odd given their secondary wasn't exactly all pro. The narrative has changed this year to it seems to only team to stop the Bills is the Bills

 

If they would have let the running game get going, in theory play action would have made it even harder on the secondary.  Didn't seem to make a differene.

 

But that run game may be the difference between an ring and no ring..... 

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1 minute ago, B-Large said:

 

If they would have let the running game get going, in theory play action would have made it even harder on the secondary.  Didn't seem to make a differene.

 

But that run game may be the difference between an ring and no ring..... 

Couldn't agree more, but the Titans were selling out for the run most of the night. Even after Josh kept the death by 1000 cuts approach goin, they still acted like we had Jim Brown in his prime in our backfield

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21 minutes ago, djp14150 said:

Let’s say Buffalo is in a 3 WR set…

 

D needs to double Diggs and have 2 very good man on man corners to cover the other 2.

they need a player on Josh running/ underneath crossing routes/ short dumps.

4 rush the passer.

that leave 2 Dmen to handle Knox., RB, and help contain Josh.

 

 

 

 

Well first, you have to have the players who are physically capable of doing it.  That eliminates probably half the teams in the NFL right off the bat.  The Bills simply can just go out and beat those teams on physical talent alone, without even scheming anything. As in the Bills could show up with the most basic gameplans and probably still drub most of those teams.

 

That leaves the other half of teams.

 

The problem is, even if you play perfect coverage, have everything diagnosed properly and are in position perfectly, Allen is still capable of just taking off  and making a man or two miss and getting a big gain simply because he is faster and more athletic than the guys you have in position to stop him from doing so.

 

This is why you see things like Defensive coaches on the sidelines just throwing their hands up in the air like Vic Fangio did in Denver, Belichick throwing the Surface laptop and throwing the phone and generally getting so frustrated.  You do everything right, play the perfect defense, execute it perfectly and it still doesn't matter, Allen will still beat you. Think of the play in the Rams game where he leapt over Bobby Wagner for the TD...everyone was covered perfectly, Allen had nowhere to go. Wagner was right in position to make the play, one of the best tacklers in NFL history, an all-pro and future HOF player, and it didn't matter.

 

And the number of times in a game where you can do all of that are few and far between, so it is especially frustrating when you actually do it and STILL can't stop him.

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1 minute ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Doing intel for the Fins?

I heard there was a very large sale of rubber mats near their stadium this week. Hmmmmm….

 

Has anybody been poking around in our archives recently???

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19 minutes ago, B-Large said:

 

If they would have let the running game get going, in theory play action would have made it even harder on the secondary.  Didn't seem to make a differene.

 

But that run game may be the difference between an ring and no ring..... 

 

That's because play action effectiveness has no reliance on the running game actually being good, rather, it is more correlated with the situation potentially being a down/distance which makes a run play more likely. 

 

Full confidence we will be much better post bye once Kromer and the OLine has more time with the new run blocking system.

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You can call the perfect defense and Josh can still fire a laser that beats the coverage or he can beat you with his legs and brains. He does a tremendous job making decisions based off of defensive reactions and can change any play while it is developing on the field. The only hope DC’s have is that Josh makes a mistake. Of course that is for only one play. Josh is amazing and we are blessed to have him. Go Bills!!

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You do what the Giants did in Super Bowl XXV, keep the ball out of the Bills hands by dominating time of possession.  

 

To counteract the Bills' no-huddle offense, the Giants' used a tough-nosed, conservative plan on both sides of the ball. On offense, the plan was to use a power running game utilizing Ottis Anderson, aided by quarterback rollouts, bootlegs, and play-action fakes. As tight end Mark Bavaro later recalled, "We came out with three tight ends, fat slobs picking you up and moving you and letting you tackle O.J. [Anderson], if you could."[citation needed] This enabled them to take time off the clock and limit Buffalo's possessions. The Giants set a Super Bowl record for time of possession with 40 minutes and 33 seconds, including 22 minutes in the second half.

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