Big Turk Posted June 3, 2022 Posted June 3, 2022 (edited) On 6/3/2022 at 9:48 PM, eball said: Hard working and smart only gets you so far in the NFL. At some point the athletic talents need to take over. Expand Dude has serious wheels...he almost went 80 yards for a TD until that turf reached up and made the tackle a few yards short... https://youtu.be/DglNt4836Q0 Edited June 3, 2022 by Big Turk Quote
njbuff Posted June 3, 2022 Posted June 3, 2022 On 6/3/2022 at 8:13 PM, Greg S said: I don't know what to make of Jones. The Giants OL is trash so that doesn't help but he neither looks like he can be "the guy" or a scrub either. He seems average. He isn't a Schoen or Daboll pick and I believe the Giants didn't pick up his option. This is a big year for him otherwise I see the Giants moving on from him next year. Expand Was there ever OL that was worse than what Allen had as a rookie? Yet, with that putrid OL, Allen didn't have a losing record as a rookie in games he started and finished. Quote
Augie Posted June 3, 2022 Posted June 3, 2022 (edited) On 6/3/2022 at 8:02 PM, FrenchConnection said: You'll notice that he didn't say best... Expand On the bright side, he didn’t mention that he sews his own clothes. As they say down here…..”bless his heart!” . Edited June 3, 2022 by Augie 3 Quote
atlbillsfan1975 Posted June 3, 2022 Posted June 3, 2022 On 6/3/2022 at 8:43 PM, YoloinOhio said: “In conclusion, if he continues to look like he has the first 3 years it will be due to a complete absence of talent. And possibly ***** terrible coaching” …*holds finger to ear* “What’s that? Joe Judge is working with Mac Jones now?” Expand I don’t care if 1980’s Bill Walsh was working with Mac Jones, he’d still stink. Quote
Bangarang Posted June 3, 2022 Posted June 3, 2022 (edited) That’s it, I’m never talk to Webb again Edited June 4, 2022 by Bangarang Quote
billsbackto81 Posted June 4, 2022 Posted June 4, 2022 I'm not a fan, but I'll be fair. He's not a "bad" QB. Overdrafted and thrown into a QB1 position on a team with limited talent. If he had played in the 90's he'd be borderline Pro Bowl caliber. I.E. 2019 Daniel Jones 13 games/ 3027 yds, 24 TD's 12 INTs, 61.9 comp rate 1990 QBX 14 games/ 2829 yds, 24 TD's 9 INTs, 63.1 comp rate/ Pro Bowl selection and AFC SB representative. And he had a very talent laden roster to work with. Can you guess who QBX is?😂 He's a HOF'er. In no way am I saying Jones was anywhere as good as QBX but it really goes to show how the position is viewed and played today. Quote
ganesh Posted June 4, 2022 Posted June 4, 2022 On 6/3/2022 at 8:03 PM, billsbackto81 said: I'm sure he's smart, he went to Duke didn't he? Jeez! What do you want him to say? He's a scrub, it's no surprise his option wasn't picked up. He never said most talented did he? Expand I think Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes and Eli Manning will have objections on the "Hardest Working" part. He is trying to cheer his new teammate...and that is OK Quote
May Day 10 Posted June 4, 2022 Posted June 4, 2022 This is the nyg version of xxxxx qb is a gym rat, or xxxxxx qb put on 15 pounds of muscle, or xxxx qb actually throws a pretty ball, etc Quote
Don Otreply Posted June 4, 2022 Posted June 4, 2022 Yeah, and Tua is impressing in Miami… I still chuckle when I hear that…. Quote
YoloinOhio Posted June 4, 2022 Author Posted June 4, 2022 In other NYG news… did these 2 ever grace Key Bank Center? Sabres could have used them Quote
Buffalo716 Posted June 4, 2022 Posted June 4, 2022 (edited) On 6/3/2022 at 10:52 PM, Big Turk said: Dude has serious wheels...he almost went 80 yards for a TD until that turf reached up and made the tackle a few yards short... https://youtu.be/DglNt4836Q0 Expand Zach Wilson went like 70 yards for a TD too You honestly don't need "serious" wheels... You need a bit of a break and to hit the corner with clean long strides Josh has the speed to do it , but the circumstances for it to happen are very very rare in the NFL Edited June 4, 2022 by Buffalo716 Quote
julian Posted June 4, 2022 Posted June 4, 2022 On 6/4/2022 at 1:31 AM, billsbackto81 said: I'm not a fan, but I'll be fair. He's not a "bad" QB. Overdrafted and thrown into a QB1 position on a team with limited talent. If he had played in the 90's he'd be borderline Pro Bowl caliber. I.E. 2019 Daniel Jones 13 games/ 3027 yds, 24 TD's 12 INTs, 61.9 comp rate 1990 QBX 14 games/ 2829 yds, 24 TD's 9 INTs, 63.1 comp rate/ Pro Bowl selection and AFC SB representative. And he had a very talent laden roster to work with. Can you guess who QBX is?😂 He's a HOF'er. In no way am I saying Jones was anywhere as good as QBX but it really goes to show how the position is viewed and played today. Expand But those numbers don’t make for a franchise QB in 2022, so unless Daniel Jones has a hot tub time machine, he’s going to need to be much better or they’re drafting his replacement. 1 Quote
Big Turk Posted June 4, 2022 Posted June 4, 2022 On 6/4/2022 at 1:31 AM, billsbackto81 said: I'm not a fan, but I'll be fair. He's not a "bad" QB. Overdrafted and thrown into a QB1 position on a team with limited talent. If he had played in the 90's he'd be borderline Pro Bowl caliber. I.E. 2019 Daniel Jones 13 games/ 3027 yds, 24 TD's 12 INTs, 61.9 comp rate 1990 QBX 14 games/ 2829 yds, 24 TD's 9 INTs, 63.1 comp rate/ Pro Bowl selection and AFC SB representative. And he had a very talent laden roster to work with. Can you guess who QBX is?😂 He's a HOF'er. In no way am I saying Jones was anywhere as good as QBX but it really goes to show how the position is viewed and played today. Expand Comparing apples and oranges with stats. Two different eras, one of which the rules were tilted very heavily to favor the offense and one of which was not. Quote
ExWNYer Posted June 4, 2022 Posted June 4, 2022 On 6/3/2022 at 7:58 PM, YoloinOhio said: Expand On 6/3/2022 at 9:43 PM, ajmac said: Code for…dude doesn’t have talent, but he’s damn smart and hard working. Sounds like he couldn’t think of anything good to say about his talent…😂😂 Expand On 6/3/2022 at 9:48 PM, eball said: Hard working and smart only gets you so far in the NFL. At some point the athletic talents need to take over. Expand Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted June 4, 2022 Posted June 4, 2022 Smarter than Josh? Maybe book smart. On the Football field? No way. Harder worker? HA!! Quote
billsbackto81 Posted June 4, 2022 Posted June 4, 2022 On 6/4/2022 at 4:25 AM, julian said: But those numbers don’t make for a franchise QB in 2022, so unless Daniel Jones has a hot tub time machine, he’s going to need to be much better or they’re drafting his replacement. Expand On 6/4/2022 at 4:36 AM, Big Turk said: Comparing apples and oranges with stats. Two different eras, one of which the rules were tilted very heavily to favor the offense and one of which was not. Expand No kidding guys. Perhaps you missed the part of the post that read: In no way am I saying Jones was anywhere as good as QBX but it really goes to show how the position is viewed and played today. All I'm saying is he's not awful. I'd probably take him over Tua, Wilson, Hineike and Mills. Quote
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