Bradberry to Eagles

[uninja]

I feel like this just means the Eagles are going to make the playoffs because they play in a ***** division and then get bounced from the playoffs in super wild card weekend, just like last year.

[MJS]

12 minutes ago, uninja said:

I feel like this just means the Eagles are going to make the playoffs because they play in a ***** division and then get bounced from the playoffs in super wild card weekend, just like last year.

Which is the same fate of any decent team without a good QB.

 

What it does do for you as a HC and GM is give you a bit more job security. If you make the playoffs you will probably be given another year or two to figure things out and find a QB.

[chris heff]

2 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

Far more athletic than his Uncle Ray.

Pure science fiction!

[H2o]

2 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

Far more athletic than his Uncle Ray.

Yes, but can he play a guitar like Chuck? 

[MJS]

1 hour ago, ScottLaw said:

It is possible Hurts takes a step this year. 

Of course, but I don't think it is likely.

[billsbackto81]

8 hours ago, Bangarang said:

Did people really expect us to go after him after drafting Elam? 

It would've been nice to have some insurance in the event,

 

Elam is slow to develop

White isn't fully back from the ACL

or Dane Jackson falls into a sophomore slump.

 

I know the cap is what it is but a 10 mil 1 year deal is a small price to pay for a Pro Bowl caliber DB in your SB window.

[Mr. WEO]

7 hours ago, Logic said:

Fair enough, but "I'd like to still get a veteran because I don't want to put all of our eggs in the rookie corner basket" is a world away from "I guess we're back to dumpster diving for CBs".

Trading up in the 1st round to draft a corner is certainly not "dumpster diving". It's understandable to desire a veteran corner for insurance and depth, but it's unreasonable, in my opinion, to suggest that the team hasn't made serious efforts to upgrade the cornerback position.

Lastly, and this is key: the Bills were NEVER going to spend $10M on a CB2. With the money they already spend on White, Poyer, and Hyde, they were simply never going to spend that much on the least prioritized position in their secondary. It seems clear to me that they made the "we can pay you a few million on a one year deal and you'll get a chance to win a Super Bowl" pitch to several veterans, and no one bit. A veteran still MAY take them up on their offer, if they choose to go that route. But again, I really don't think a $10M CB2 was ever in the cards, and I also don't think that equates to "dumpster diving". You can't pay everyone, and they made a conscious choice to spend big bucks on the defensive line and pass rush instead.
 

 

If TY Hilton is willing to prioritize winning over money, he'd be the perfect addition to the WR corps.

I agree that guard depth is our top need right now. Daryl Williams and Ereck Flowers are two guys I would love to target.

 

Hilton?  Bills did that last year with  Sanders.  

[HurlyBurly51]

1 hour ago, billsbackto81 said:

It would've been nice to have some insurance in the event,

 

Elam is slow to develop

White isn't fully back from the ACL

or Dane Jackson falls into a sophomore slump.

 

I know the cap is what it is but a 10 mil 1 year deal is a small price to pay for a Pro Bowl caliber DB in your SB window.

Yes, but if none of the above happened Bradberry wasn't going to sign where he wasn't locked in as full time starter, imo.

[MJS]

2 hours ago, billsbackto81 said:

It would've been nice to have some insurance in the event,

 

Elam is slow to develop

White isn't fully back from the ACL

or Dane Jackson falls into a sophomore slump.

 

I know the cap is what it is but a 10 mil 1 year deal is a small price to pay for a Pro Bowl caliber DB in your SB window.

Dane Jackson is going into his 3rd year. There shouldn't be any slump for him.

 

But I think Bradberry would not have viewed the Bills as an ideal situation since we have Tre White and the just drafted a first round corner. And I don't think Beane was willing to give him that big of a contract anyway.

[Putin]

5 minutes ago, MJS said:

Dane Jackson is going into his 3rd year. There shouldn't be any slump for him.

 

But I think Bradberry would not have viewed the Bills as an ideal situation since we have Tre White and the just drafted a first round corner. And I don't think Beane was willing to give him that big of a contract anyway.

When is Tre White coming back ? 

[Richard Noggin]

10 hours ago, Rubes said:

Probably won’t happen, but would be really interesting to see Baker in Philly.

 

 

Could be an oddly good fit if it goes well early, or a predictably terrible fit if it goes badly early. 

7 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

Far more athletic than his Uncle Ray.

I'll allow it lol

[MJS]

18 minutes ago, Putin said:

When is Tre White coming back ? 

This year sometime. He is still entrenched as the #1 corner.

[Alphadawg7]

11 hours ago, DJB said:

Bradberry was likely never an option the monent we went CB round 1

 

But im glad he went to the NFC.

 

He was never option long before that.  We weren't paying him $10M 

[DJB]

8 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

He was never option long before that.  We weren't paying him $10M 

 

Absolutely

[BillsFanForever19]

3 hours ago, billsbackto81 said:

It would've been nice to have some insurance in the event,

 

Elam is slow to develop

White isn't fully back from the ACL

or Dane Jackson falls into a sophomore slump.

 

I know the cap is what it is but a 10 mil 1 year deal is a small price to pay for a Pro Bowl caliber DB in your SB window.

 

He was never going to sign somewhere that didn't offer an unquestioned full time starting gig. He had multiple suitors that had that option. We weren't going to spend a 1st Round pick on someone and then make them 3rd Outside CB off the bench in his Rookie Year. Nor were we going to pay that kind of money for a depth player, even if he were okay with not starting. It was never happening. And if the Bills had concerns about Elam's ability to Start in Year 1 - they wouldn't have taken him at 23.

Edited May 19, 2022 by BillsFanForever19

[Logic]

2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Hilton?  Bills did that last year with  Sanders.  

And?

[GunnerBill]

10 hours ago, MJS said:

Of course, but I don't think it is likely.

 

Takes a step, I don't see any reason why he wouldn't. He took a step last year. No reason to think he has now maxed out that I can see. 

 

Now if you are talking becomes a long term answer top 10 type QB I think that is unlikely. But the guy just keeps on improving. From where he was when he was at Alabama to now is remarkable and a huge testament to himself and his hard work. 

[Mr. WEO]

9 hours ago, Logic said:

And?

 

 

If they saw value in a Sanders/Hilton type, they probably would have kept Sanders.

[Thurman#1]

17 hours ago, TheWeatherMan said:

There are more than 32 better QBs in the NFL better than TUA.  No, Im not naming them all.  

 

 

That's questionable even if you're talking about 2nd year Tua.

 

And there's no reason to think 3rd year Tua might not be quite a bit better than that old relic.

 

 

13 hours ago, billsbackto81 said:

It would've been nice to have some insurance in the event,

 

Elam is slow to develop

White isn't fully back from the ACL

or Dane Jackson falls into a sophomore slump.

 

I know the cap is what it is but a 10 mil 1 year deal is a small price to pay for a Pro Bowl caliber DB in your SB window.

 

Whatever your situation at DB, $10M for 1 year absolutely is a very big deal for a team that's got $5M in cap space this year and is already $10M under the cap for 2023.

 

And our Super Bowl window will last probably 12 years from now.

Edited May 19, 2022 by Thurman#1

[Logic]

2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

If they saw value in a Sanders/Hilton type, they probably would have kept Sanders.

Sanders hasn’t decided for sure that he wants to play again, and may be retiring.

[Mr. WEO]

31 minutes ago, Logic said:

Sanders hasn’t decided for sure that he wants to play again, and may be retiring.

 

The NFL has made that decision for him so far it seems...

[Sharky7337]

On 5/18/2022 at 11:41 AM, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Both Tua and Hurts can be the guy for their teams. I think Tua is going to surprise a lot of people. 

While I kinda agree with you.....

 

Now because of Josh in recent memory every one who supports them is expecting the year 3 breakout.

 

But we will see.

Edited May 19, 2022 by Sharky7337

[Buffalo_Stampede]

50 minutes ago, Sharky7337 said:

While I kinda agree with you.....

 

Now because of Josh in recent memory every one who supports them is expecting the year 3 breakout.

 

But we will see.

I think Tua can easily be an Alex Smith type QB. Or a Jimmy G. Dolphin fans are hoping for Drew Brees but he’d have to take giant steps in his processing.

[Nextmanup]

A very interesting move indeed.  Always been a big fan of his.

 

Fahrenheit 451 and the Martian Chronicles are some of my favorites.

 

 

[Back2Buff]

23 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

That's questionable even if you're talking about 2nd year Tua.

 

And there's no reason to think 3rd year Tua might not be quite a bit better than that old relic.

 

 

 

Whatever your situation at DB, $10M for 1 year absolutely is a very big deal for a team that's got $5M in cap space this year and is already $10M under the cap for 2023.

 

And our Super Bowl window will last probably 12 years from now.

 

It's not a ten million dollar deal

 

It's 7.5 with incentives.  Cap hit will be reasonable.

 

This is a move the Bills should have absolutely made

 

[BillsFanForever19]

7 hours ago, Back2Buff said:

 

It's not a ten million dollar deal

 

It's 7.5 with incentives.  Cap hit will be reasonable.

 

This is a move the Bills should have absolutely made

 

Could have? Maybe. We'd have had to do even more reworking than we already have to do that (and we've already done a ton of that). And he already has work to do to get to where he said he wants to be cap wise by the start of this season.

 

But Bradberry wasn't going to sign somewhere that didn't offer him a full time unquestioned starting CB1 or CB2 job for at least the whole season. He had multiple suitors who had that available to him. In Phili he might be CB1 over Darius Slay for the year. And if all goes well there for both sides, he'll have the ability to re-sign there and keep the starting role long term.

 

We weren't going to spend our 1st and our 4th on Elam and then make him 3rd Outside CB off the bench in his Rookie season. If they had any concerns about Elam's ability to hold down CB2 in his 1st year, they wouldn't have spent what they spent to get him. 

 

And even if Bradberry were okay with starting a few games until White was ready and then being depth behind White and Elam after White returned, we weren't going to pay upwards of 10 million for that role. 

 

Bradberry coming here was never going to happen. If we wanted Bradberry for the gig, we'd have made a move for him before the Draft and we would have addressed CB with much less Draft assets than we used for Elam.

Edited May 20, 2022 by BillsFanForever19