Mass shooting in Buffalo (Those wishing to exchange on the political aspects of this situation should do so in the thread located in PPP) - edit by moderator

[Buffalo716]

8 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

 

God bless pearl and may she rest in peace 

[muppy]

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/14/nyregion/victims-buffalo-shooting.html

 

a link sharing info on the victims from yesterdays shootings May they RIP

Edited May 16, 2022 by muppy

[muppy]

a groundswell of support coming to the victims of the shooting; This surprises me zero. I imagine there are grassroots neighbor to neighbor outreaches going on also. It's the Buffalo way. If anyone has any links to please post.  Ive read there are scams already trying to take advantage. How low can a person go.............

 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/14/nyregion/victims-buffalo-shooting.html

 

 

 

EDIT: I found this......donations links that I hope are vetted and legit

 

https://www.wivb.com/news/buffalo-supermarket-mass-shooting-tops/ways-to-help-those-affected-by-the-buffalo-mass-shooting/

Edited May 16, 2022 by muppy

[Warcodered]

 

[Andy1]

[Buffalo716]

46 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

 

 

46 minutes ago, Andy1 said:

As the son of a hippie and a lifelong Buffalonian

 

"Make love not war"

"Peace love the Beatles" 

 

Quotes from my father

Edited May 16, 2022 by Buffalo716

[billsfanmiamioh]

7 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

I'm not sure what you're struggling with at this point.  The likelihood fo being shot by police as a black man is more than twice as high as it is for a white man.  So I am simply saying he likely would have been shot if black.

 

I know you know this already so why are you pretending to not understand my straightforward statement?

 

 

Atta boy.  Should have led with that 3 posts ago.

Unspeakable tragedy and being “right” is the most important thing on some peoples mind. Sorry, but this is a hot garbage take. This kind of stuff does nothing to help the problem. Got any lotto numbers I can have too since you have such a gift of foresight?
 

Anyone who is making this about anything but the victims at this point, should just STFU. I don’t have any clue what the answer is to any of this, but I know it’s not this. Actually as I’m writing this, I’m realizing that by even responding in here, I’m part of the problem too. The internet is detrimental to a large percentage of the population (myself included) and it’s only going to get worse. 

[JoPoy88]

13 minutes ago, billsfanmiamioh said:

Unspeakable tragedy and being “right” is the most important thing on some peoples mind. Sorry, but this is a hot garbage take. This kind of stuff does nothing to help the problem. Got any lotto numbers I can have too since you have such a gift of foresight?
 

Anyone who is making this about anything but the victims at this point, should just STFU. I don’t have any clue what the answer is to any of this, but I know it’s not this. Actually as I’m writing this, I’m realizing that by even responding in here, I’m part of the problem too. The internet is detrimental to a large percentage of the population (myself included) and it’s only going to get worse. 

right so whenever one of these things happen everyone should “STFU”,  disengage their brain, flip into mourning mode and shoot out those thoughts and prayers. Clearly that’s been working so far as a preventive measure. 
 

thank you for stating the f*ing obvious that this is (yet another) tragedy and that of course we all should (and are) mourning the victims of this.

[TBBills]

Can't even listen to sports radio b.c this is all they are talking about.

[BringBackFergy]

1 hour ago, TBBills said:

Can't even listen to sports radio b.c this is all they are talking about.

The effects of this massacre are far reaching. I’m sorry for your inconvenience. 

[JoPoy88]

2 hours ago, TBBills said:

Can't even listen to sports radio b.c this is all they are talking about.

clearly, you’re the victim here.

[TBBills]

23 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

The effects of this massacre are far reaching. I’m sorry for your inconvenience. 

 

3 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:

clearly, you’re the victim here.

Yea far reaching for a week and then you will all forget about it like always. So please spare me the bull#### of pretending to be sympathetic like everyone does in this world.

[Captain Caveman]

2 hours ago, TBBills said:

Can't even listen to sports radio b.c this is all they are talking about.

 

WAAAAGGGHHHHH

[JoPoy88]

10 minutes ago, TBBills said:

 

Yea far reaching for a week and then you will all forget about it like always. So please spare me the bull#### of pretending to be sympathetic like everyone does in this world.

So sorry but who the f* are you to presume we don’t care about this? I live 4 miles away I know people affected by this shooting. With all due respect, ***** off.

[billsfanmiamioh]

7 hours ago, JoPoy88 said:

right so whenever one of these things happen everyone should “STFU”,  disengage their brain, flip into mourning mode and shoot out those thoughts and prayers. Clearly that’s been working so far as a preventive measure. 
 

thank you for stating the f*ing obvious that this is (yet another) tragedy and that of course we all should (and are) mourning the victims of this.

Just saying playing internet psychologist doesn’t really help anything here. Problem is, nothing does. It’s tough for rational people to try and explain an irrational act of horrific violence like this. Like I said, hurling blame at this point does nothing except continue to diminish the victims lives and just turns the whole thing into another debate.
 

No clue what the answer is, but it sucks. I don’t like living in a world where I might be out grocery shopping with my kid and could be mowed down by some whacko. I get everyone is angry and I am too. Just wish that anger could actually be effectively channeled somehow and not just turn into the “usual”. Its not my job to tell people how to react or feel, so I’m sorry for the tone of my last post. And you’re right, “thoughts & prayers” doesn’t do squat either. Tough to come up with anything reasonable to say at this point. It just sucks

[Captain Caveman]

3 minutes ago, billsfanmiamioh said:

No clue what the answer is

 

The thing is, there are lots of actual steps that could be taken here, and most people saying they don't know what the answer is just don't like what the answers are.

 

[billsfanmiamioh]

17 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said:

 

The thing is, there are lots of actual steps that could be taken here, and most people saying they don't know what the answer is just don't like what the answers are.

 

Sure there is. I’m all for anything at this point, it certainly can’t hurt. Im a gun owner and have zero problem with stricter gun laws. If it prevents one incident, it’s helped.

I guess I’m just cynical, but its hard (or maybe impossible?) to completely eliminate the crazy from people. And that’s the depressing part. (To be clear, I’m not saying “since we can’t stop it, do nothing”)

[Captain Caveman]

Thanks for acknowledging that there are things we can do.  Yes, reasonable, common sense gun laws would be a good start.  Another would be for major networks to not give screen time to replacement theory, and to stop promoting grievance politics.

[Rico]

Far cleaner in obviously clear-cut cases just to quickly kill them.

 

Go kill 10 random people in a supermarket?
Kill him now.

 

Throw a Molotov cocktail into a police car? 
Kill them now.

 

Got mental health issues?
Doesn’t matter, kill them. A rabid dog can’t help it but you still kill it anyways.

 

Edited May 16, 2022 by Rico

[Brennan Huff]

1 hour ago, TBBills said:

 

Yea far reaching for a week and then you will all forget about it like always. So please spare me the bull#### of pretending to be sympathetic like everyone does in this world.

Just because you think it doesn’t mean you have to say it. I mean unless you like having everyone think that you are a giant POS

[extrahammer]

Yeah let's not pretend there hasn't been a rise in these cases and we actually care about it when nothing gets done. Both sides will politick the hell out of this and we will be lucky if there are any real solutions. 

Edited May 16, 2022 by extrahammer

[BillsFan4]

 

😢

[Gugny]

2 hours ago, TBBills said:

 

Yea far reaching for a week and then you will all forget about it like always. So please spare me the bull#### of pretending to be sympathetic like everyone does in this world.

 

You mad, bro?

[PetermansRedemption]

4 hours ago, billsfanmiamioh said:

Sure there is. I’m all for anything at this point, it certainly can’t hurt. Im a gun owner and have zero problem with stricter gun laws. If it prevents one incident, it’s helped.

I guess I’m just cynical, but its hard (or maybe impossible?) to completely eliminate the crazy from people. And that’s the depressing part. (To be clear, I’m not saying “since we can’t stop it, do nothing”)

I thought for the longest time that the process to buy a gun was similar to the NY Pistol permit process. Fill out an application, get a background check, references check, and an interview with local law enforcement. Then if you are deemed fit, you get the permit and pick up the gun. Perhaps this wouldn’t be a bad idea? Probably no way it ever passes though. 

[Buffalo716]

5 hours ago, TBBills said:

 

Yea far reaching for a week and then you will all forget about it like always. So please spare me the bull#### of pretending to be sympathetic like everyone does in this world.

This was the worst day in my city's history

 

We're hurting.. we will not forget this in a week

 

And it took somebody from outside our community to commit this atrocity

[Beck Water]

36 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said:

I thought for the longest time that the process to buy a gun was similar to the NY Pistol permit process. Fill out an application, get a background check, references check, and an interview with local law enforcement. Then if you are deemed fit, you get the permit and pick up the gun. Perhaps this wouldn’t be a bad idea? Probably no way it ever passes though. 

 

It's being reported that the piece of scum murderer in Buffalo passed his background check to buy an AR-15 in a gun shop despite having previously made shooting threats directed at a school and having been investigated/sent for mental health evaluation.  It would have to be a better, more thorough background check with more reasons to disallow people than we have currently.

 

We all have to be licensed to drive a car, which involves passing a written and practical exam and vision check.  The car must be registered and in most states, insured. Just saying.

[PetermansRedemption]

3 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

It's being reported that the piece of scum murderer in Buffalo passed his background check to buy an AR-15 in a gun shop despite having previously made shooting threats directed at a school and having been investigated/sent for mental health evaluation.  It would have to be a better, more thorough background check with more reasons to disallow people than we have currently.

 

We all have to be licensed to drive a car, which involves passing a written and practical exam and vision check.  The car must be registered and in most states, insured. Just saying.

Not sure your familiar with the process to buy a pistol in New York, but it’s completely different than buying a rifle. The rifle purchase requires an instant background check through the federal database (like how this guy purchased his rifle). It’s rife with holes and isn’t very thorough. The pistol permit process is extensive. It takes about a year of interviews and background checks in Erie county to finally get one. In the end your entire file with interviews, reference checks, and background investigation goes to a judge who has to sign off on your file. I’m advocating for every rifle to have that same process.

 

Of course New York’s pistol permit process is under fire and probably 50/50 to get overturned in the Supreme Court anyways. Which is why it probably would never fly. Most states you walk in to buy a pistol and it’s the same as buying a rifle (instant background check). 

[TBBills]

4 hours ago, Brennan Huff said:

Just because you think it doesn’t mean you have to say it. I mean unless you like having everyone think that you are a giant POS

See how the hate still around, human nature. No one is any different, thanks for proving my point. You just attack people on the internet calling them a POS when in reality you are no better.

19 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

 

Deflecting? No I'm pointing out we have a serious issue in this country with these shootings. You can't just ignore them and pretend they don't happen. 

You really don't have a serious issue. It's more of a population and educational problem. If this guy wasn't brought up like this it wouldn't have happened like it did. 

[JoPoy88]

 

23 minutes ago, TBBills said:

 

You really don't have a serious issue. It's more of a population and educational problem. If this guy wasn't brought up like this it wouldn't have happened like it did. 

A “population” problem? 

[Process]

Jfc

 

 

[Buffalo716]

2 minutes ago, Process said:

Jfc

 

 

Literally just called my mother and she was at tops on Union road

[TBBills]

5 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:

A “population” problem? 

Yes, overpopulation leads to worse education and less jobs or good paying jobs, poor education leads to people easily being manipulated. It happens all over the world but with overpopulation its happening more and more frequently. 

[Brennan Huff]

33 minutes ago, TBBills said:

See how the hate still around, human nature. No one is any different, thanks for proving my point. You just attack people on the internet calling them a POS when in reality you are no better.

You really don't have a serious issue. It's more of a population and educational problem. If this guy wasn't brought up like this it wouldn't have happened like it did. 

Big difference between “hate” against someone who makes themself look like an ####### on the Internet and innocent grocery shoppers who were murdered because of the color of their skin. You should quit while you’re behind

[JoPoy88]

1 minute ago, TBBills said:

Yes, overpopulation leads to worse education and less jobs or good paying jobs, poor education leads to people easily being manipulated. It happens all over the world but with overpopulation its happening more and more frequently. 

you know where this kid was from, right? You know where he went to high school? 12:1 student/teacher ratio. 

[Process]

5 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Literally just called my mother and she was at tops on Union road

I live one mile from the walmart. 

 

The threat is probably nothing and someone thinking they are being funny but man this world is effed up. 

[Buffalo716]

12 minutes ago, Process said:

I live one mile from the walmart. 

 

The threat is probably nothing and someone thinking they are being funny but man this world is effed up. 

At this point it's not funny 

 

Arrest that dude 

[TBBills]

42 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said:

Big difference between “hate” against someone who makes themself look like an ####### on the Internet and innocent grocery shoppers who were murdered because of the color of their skin. You should quit while you’re behind

I was talking about you.

 

I am done here, too dangerous of a thread for this banter. Just remember your snarky remarks just add to the problem of this world, not solve it.

Edited May 16, 2022 by TBBills

[Rico]

33 minutes ago, Process said:

I live one mile from the walmart. 

 

The threat is probably nothing and someone thinking they are being funny but man this world is effed up. 

Possibly someone trying to stir up sh** and make a bad situation worse.… impossible to tell anymore.

[Brennan Huff]

16 minutes ago, TBBills said:

I was talking about you.

 

I am done here, too dangerous of a thread for this banter. Just remember your snarky remarks just add to the problem of this world, not solve it.

Irony. Look it up

[TBBills]

3 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said:

Irony. Look it up

Nope I did nothing to you. Just showing how it's a part of everyday for everyone without even thinking about it. You came after me for a statement I made instead of just ignoring it or maybe even counter argue it.

 

That is all I am saying. That's it, done with this thread now. Take it to pm if you still want to respond.

Edited May 16, 2022 by TBBills