Who’s going to KC this weekend?

[Einstein]

Just now, NewEra said:

Just wait til we win a super bowl and go to 3 straight AFCCGs. 

 

I truly hope Bills fans don’t turn into that. But perhaps you’re right.

[Augie]

5 minutes ago, NewEra said:

It’s not too late!  You can sleep on the couch!

 

I’m in on Nashville a week later. I’m pretty free with my time, but everyone has limits. Well, most of us…….

[Augie]

18 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

I used to feel the same way. Chiefs fans did indeed remind me of us.

 

But now? Pfft. No way. They’ve turned into Patriot fans. Obnoxious. Arrogant.

 

They live in Kansas City. The joke would be on them. 

 

 

 

EDIT: I admit I am spoiled, and so-so disappoints me. I like to live where we all want to go on our one or two weeks in paradise. 

 

 

.

Edited October 7, 2021 by Augie

[philholbroo]

If anyone coming to KC is staying up north, Al's in Parkville is a Bills/Buffalo bar and grill to hang out at. If you are looking for BBQ- Joes is some of the best you can find and there are several locations. People also love Q39 and Char Bar.  Also definately want to go to the game early for the parking lot experience. Most fans will be good to you and even invite you over to their tailgate. Hopefully they treat you all good. The only times I've had trouble is in the actual stadium and even then its usually just Chiefs fans fighting each other from being too drunk.

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, Augie said:

 

I’m in on Nashville a week later. I’m pretty free with my time, but everyone has limits. Well, most of us…….

had to try.  

 

 

for anyone looking for more info, I posted this in the tailgate thread

 

 

Edited October 7, 2021 by NewEra

[Zerovoltz]

Some KC BBQ comments that might be useful to those visiting KC....and remember, just like everyone has different opinions about what wings are best and what constitutes a good wing......same is true with KC sytle BBQ...these are my opinions.....and I'm not trying to tell you what is best or worst...mostly I am trying to tell you what to expect.  Most KC BBQ places are really good.  The sauce means more in KC than it does in places like Texas or Memphis etc.  

 

1.  Joes.  Joes is no.1 on alot of lists for good reason....it's good stuff.  If you want to make sure you limited time in KC is utilized on a sure thing....go to Joes...order a Z-man sandwich.  the Z man is an absolute good.  It's impossible not to love it.  Joes has other really good items too, but this is the signalture sandwhich and it's outstanding.  The sauce is a traditional, rich, sweet/smoky KC style sauce.

 

2. Q39.  slightly upscale...but wow....you can't miss with the burnt ends plate or a Mr. Burns sandwich.  The sauce here is a bit more dark and rich, but still KC sweet.

 

3. Jackstack.  The most upscale of the KC BBQ places...Jackstack is notable for it's vareity of ribs..you can get pork ribs here..but you go to this place because yo uwant beef or lamb ribs...so good!  Also...if you are into fried mushrooms....you should try them here...they are huge and tasty.  The sauce is slightly less sweet than typical KC sauce...still quite good.

 

4.  Arthur Bryants.  Not located in a great part of town, but no one will bother you right near the restaurant, especially during the daytime.  Bryants is one of the KC originals...old school.  If you want a heaping mountain of meat between 2 pieces of bread with good sauced and a staggering payload of fries for a goog price..you go to Bryants.  The combo sandwich and fries will feed an army for days.  Sauce here is bit more peppery....still good though.  just sweet enough.

 

5.  Johnny's.  If you want a slab of pork ribs....in my opinion...Johnny's are the best.  Good smoked sausages here too.  Sauce is typical rich sweet KC sauce.

 

6.  Slaps.  Slaps is almost more famous for their variety of good sides than for their meats...wich are great too.  Slaps is a joint that you either love or hate due to the sauce.  Slaps sauce is the SWEETEST sauce in KC.  Almost like putting sweet maple syrup on your BBQ....it's not that far off.  If you prefer a darker, richer, smokier sauce, Slaps isn't going to be your thing...but if you like it sweet with good sides...this is your place.  it's quite popular.

 

7.  Smokehouse.  Nothing notable...they kind of do everything good...just not great.  Reccomend the burnt ends here....sauces is a typical rich, sweet smoky sauce.

 

8.  Zardas.  This one I think I problaby rank higher than most in KC...The BBQ BEANS at this place are incredible.  Best beans in KC.  You can buy them in most local grocery stores.  so good.  They have some decent specialty sandwiches.  The "Hog Wild" or Average Joe are both good.

 

9.  Woodyard BBQ.  An off the beaten path type of place...unique in that they operate as a BBQ wood supplier primarily, but also operate a small BBQ joint thats quite small...most of the seating is outdoors so if you do go to this one...pick a nice sit outside kind of day. The pit is outside next to the trees/outdoor seeting as you arrive.  Smells so good. These guys offer traditional fare, but usually have a speciality item or 2 at any given moment...if they have it...try the BBQ Cheesesteak...so good!  Sauce is typical KC style sauce.  

 

10.  Gates.  Another of the KC originals.  Lives more off reputation than anything these days but you can still get good food here.  You may know this places as the joint wehre they yell "HI MAY I HELP YOU!!!" as you are standing in line...you give kind of yell your order back to them..all the years I've been and somehow they never screw up my order when you think surely this disorganized chaotic system can't possibly get good accurate results..but it does somehow.  Gates used to have some of the best ribs in town....best way to enjoy gates is either a beef on bun with fries, or just get a mixed plate and share it with a friend.  Gates by default, usues their original sauce on things....and gates original sauces is peppery.  I really like their sauce, but they also have a sweet n mild version that is also very good and more typical of a KC style sauce you find in most places.  They've also got a hot n spicy version.  If you aren't sure about the sauce situation, when you are ordering just yell up at the lady....for example beef on bun DRY!   Or "MIXED PLATE DRY"  they won't put any sauce on it...then you can grab some of each and see what you like.  ...don't get me wrong on my rating here...I could eat at GATES all day....but KC has so many others...and better to choose from....

 

11.  Rosedales.  The last of the old schoolers...Rosedales is pretty cheap....it's not especially good, but they do have some stuff that's decent and well priced.  Smoked sausage sandwich is really good.  Alot of folks like the corn nuggets and fried mushrooms.  You can probalby get a slab of ribs here cheaper than anywhere else in town.  Rosedales has a very vinegary tart sauce....more familiar to texas BBQ than KC.  As a kid, my dad would buy a slab here and you'd eat it but try and pick around the sauce...as an adult I can appreciate the sauce now, but it's not for everyone.  Hit it up if you like a tart vinegar sauce.....or a cheap slab of ribs (with said tart sauce) ...or a pretty good cheap smoked sausage sandwich.....and some corn nuggets.  

 

Here are few to avoid...in my opinion....the first one might be Rosedales...probalby not a place out of towners ought to try out....would ruin your first ever KC BBQ experience...but its got its good bits...anyhow....

 

Smokin Guns in Norht KC.  Always slow and seems dry and pricy.

 

Haywards....meh

 

Danny Edwards.  This place has the wierd distinction of not having particullary good BBQ at the restaurant...but their catered meals are pretty damn good.  Skip if if you can.

 

Bandanna's.  Not sure they have a location in KC anymore....think they still operate out of St. Joe, MO.  Either way...very MEH. 

 

Dickey's  Somehow this texas chain remains in businees at various locations...if you happen upon one.  DO NOT ENTER.  This is Texas chain BBQ.  It SUCKS.  If you do go in, just remember ths is NOT KC BBQ...we don't claim it.  Texas barely claims it.

 

Want some good sauce to take home?  Stop in any KC area grocery store...you'll find a whole damn isle of nothing but BBQ sauce.  

 

FUN FACT:  When babies are born in Kc, the hospital gives them a droplet of KC style BBQ sauce 

 

If you find a hole in the wall place not mentioned here...try it...it's most likely good.  There are many I didn't mention here.

 

And last....IF BBQ isn't your thing or you get tired of it and want something else...KC has an incredible mexican food scene that's hidden in the shaddows of the BBQ places.....go hit up 7th Street/Argentine district....Taqueria San Antonio..El Polo Rey and so many others down there...GREAT mexican food.

 

 

 

[GunnerBill]

5 hours ago, Einstein said:

 

I truly hope Bills fans don’t turn into that. But perhaps you’re right.

 

We already have some of the traits without the arrogance that success brings. This fanbase would be unbearable with a Lombardi. I'm still here for it though  

[muppy]

5 hours ago, NewEra said:

Just wait til we win a super bowl and go to 3 straight AFCCGs. 

i read stuff like this and I think muppy breathe in....breathe out....heavy exhale ........yer stressing me out dude I need to start working out my heart muscles Now!

 

lmaoo

[Rick 'r Mortis]

Someone pick me up in Toledo. I'll pay for gas and your first 12 drinks.

[CookieG]

6 hours ago, Zerovoltz said:

Some KC BBQ comments that might be useful to those visiting KC....and remember, just like everyone has different opinions about what wings are best and what constitutes a good wing......same is true with KC sytle BBQ...these are my opinions.....and I'm not trying to tell you what is best or worst...mostly I am trying to tell you what to expect.  Most KC BBQ places are really good.  The sauce means more in KC than it does in places like Texas or Memphis etc.  

 

1.  Joes.  Joes is no.1 on alot of lists for good reason....it's good stuff.  If you want to make sure you limited time in KC is utilized on a sure thing....go to Joes...order a Z-man sandwich.  the Z man is an absolute good.  It's impossible not to love it.  Joes has other really good items too, but this is the signalture sandwhich and it's outstanding.  The sauce is a traditional, rich, sweet/smoky KC style sauce.

 

2. Q39.  slightly upscale...but wow....you can't miss with the burnt ends plate or a Mr. Burns sandwich.  The sauce here is a bit more dark and rich, but still KC sweet.

 

3. Jackstack.  The most upscale of the KC BBQ places...Jackstack is notable for it's vareity of ribs..you can get pork ribs here..but you go to this place because yo uwant beef or lamb ribs...so good!  Also...if you are into fried mushrooms....you should try them here...they are huge and tasty.  The sauce is slightly less sweet than typical KC sauce...still quite good.

 

4.  Arthur Bryants.  Not located in a great part of town, but no one will bother you right near the restaurant, especially during the daytime.  Bryants is one of the KC originals...old school.  If you want a heaping mountain of meat between 2 pieces of bread with good sauced and a staggering payload of fries for a goog price..you go to Bryants.  The combo sandwich and fries will feed an army for days.  Sauce here is bit more peppery....still good though.  just sweet enough.

 

 

 

 

 

That was a pretty good guide. Well, very good, especially identifying the places to avoid.  But in KC..the nice thing is, if you pick a place at random, the odds of getting good BBQ are better than getting bad BBQ.

 

  I will say that if this is a person's first, or possibly their only trip to KC, and if a person wants to say, "I've been there"...its Arthur Bryant's of Gates.  Arthur Bryant's is the creator of the burnt end...an order should be on everyone's food based Bucket List. Gates is...well...Gates.  I still use both of their sauces, because both have bite to them and neither has that too sweet taste.  

 

Arthur Bryant's is like walking into Allen Fieldhouse.  Its an old building, ugly and without any modern creature comforts.  But when youlook at the photos of who has been there, its like Allen Fieldhouse and seeing the banners.  

 

You know you are in someplace special. 

Ooops...forgot to add a very good article on Arthur Bryant's.

 

https://sportsworld.nbcsports.com/the-proper-way-to-order-bryants-burnt-ends/

[\GoBillsInDallas/]

On 10/6/2021 at 1:24 AM, NewEra said:

Who’s going to KC this weekend?

 

No they're not. They're not starting their tour until November, and it will be UK venues only:

 

https://www.thewho.com/roger-daltrey-announces-uk-tour/

 

[Zerovoltz]

10 hours ago, CookieG said:

That was a pretty good guide. Well, very good, especially identifying the places to avoid.  But in KC..the nice thing is, if you pick a place at random, the odds of getting good BBQ are better than getting bad BBQ.

 

  I will say that if this is a person's first, or possibly their only trip to KC, and if a person wants to say, "I've been there"...its Arthur Bryant's of Gates.  Arthur Bryant's is the creator of the burnt end...an order should be on everyone's food based Bucket List. Gates is...well...Gates.  I still use both of their sauces, because both have bite to them and neither has that too sweet taste.  

 

Arthur Bryant's is like walking into Allen Fieldhouse.  Its an old building, ugly and without any modern creature comforts.  But when youlook at the photos of who has been there, its like Allen Fieldhouse and seeing the banners.  

 

You know you are in someplace special. 

Ooops...forgot to add a very good article on Arthur Bryant's.

 

https://sportsworld.nbcsports.com/the-proper-way-to-order-bryants-burnt-ends/

THANKS!  

 

I don't disagree with the notion that everyone should have some Gates and Bryants....the OG's of KC BBQ.....I would just say, if you want to 100% make sure that your out of town guest who might be only getting one taste of KC style, is going to love it....I gotta say you go to Joes.  

 

Bryants and Gates are bucket list type places...but if your out of town boss was coming to town and your promotion was riding on your boss enjoying his lunch meeting with you, and he wanted BBQ....you go to Joes and sleep well the night before.

[The Dean]

On 10/6/2021 at 5:51 PM, NewEra said:

Last time I went to KC we had a blast. Went to P&L, met a group of locals who brought us to a local bar in the burbs. We had a blast.
 

You can miss something in every city of you aren’t a turd

 

I can't recommend this post enough (other than the typo, but let's move on).  Nearly every city I've ever visited has some fun to be found. And actually, fun is on the inside of a person, not in the outside world. MAKE the fun if you can't find it. But usually, you can find it. I guess growing up in WNY teaches you that, to a degree.

 

20 hours ago, Zerovoltz said:

Some KC BBQ comments that might be useful to those visiting KC....and remember, just like everyone has different opinions about what wings are best and what constitutes a good wing......same is true with KC sytle BBQ...these are my opinions.....and I'm not trying to tell you what is best or worst...mostly I am trying to tell you what to expect.  Most KC BBQ places are really good.  The sauce means more in KC than it does in places like Texas or Memphis etc.  

 

1.  Joes.  Joes is no.1 on alot of lists for good reason....it's good stuff.  If you want to make sure you limited time in KC is utilized on a sure thing....go to Joes...order a Z-man sandwich.  the Z man is an absolute good.  It's impossible not to love it.  Joes has other really good items too, but this is the signalture sandwhich and it's outstanding.  The sauce is a traditional, rich, sweet/smoky KC style sauce.

 

2. Q39.  slightly upscale...but wow....you can't miss with the burnt ends plate or a Mr. Burns sandwich.  The sauce here is a bit more dark and rich, but still KC sweet.

 

3. Jackstack.  The most upscale of the KC BBQ places...Jackstack is notable for it's vareity of ribs..you can get pork ribs here..but you go to this place because yo uwant beef or lamb ribs...so good!  Also...if you are into fried mushrooms....you should try them here...they are huge and tasty.  The sauce is slightly less sweet than typical KC sauce...still quite good.

 

4.  Arthur Bryants.  Not located in a great part of town, but no one will bother you right near the restaurant, especially during the daytime.  Bryants is one of the KC originals...old school.  If you want a heaping mountain of meat between 2 pieces of bread with good sauced and a staggering payload of fries for a goog price..you go to Bryants.  The combo sandwich and fries will feed an army for days.  Sauce here is bit more peppery....still good though.  just sweet enough.

 

5.  Johnny's.  If you want a slab of pork ribs....in my opinion...Johnny's are the best.  Good smoked sausages here too.  Sauce is typical rich sweet KC sauce.

 

6.  Slaps.  Slaps is almost more famous for their variety of good sides than for their meats...wich are great too.  Slaps is a joint that you either love or hate due to the sauce.  Slaps sauce is the SWEETEST sauce in KC.  Almost like putting sweet maple syrup on your BBQ....it's not that far off.  If you prefer a darker, richer, smokier sauce, Slaps isn't going to be your thing...but if you like it sweet with good sides...this is your place.  it's quite popular.

 

7.  Smokehouse.  Nothing notable...they kind of do everything good...just not great.  Reccomend the burnt ends here....sauces is a typical rich, sweet smoky sauce.

 

8.  Zardas.  This one I think I problaby rank higher than most in KC...The BBQ BEANS at this place are incredible.  Best beans in KC.  You can buy them in most local grocery stores.  so good.  They have some decent specialty sandwiches.  The "Hog Wild" or Average Joe are both good.

 

9.  Woodyard BBQ.  An off the beaten path type of place...unique in that they operate as a BBQ wood supplier primarily, but also operate a small BBQ joint thats quite small...most of the seating is outdoors so if you do go to this one...pick a nice sit outside kind of day. The pit is outside next to the trees/outdoor seeting as you arrive.  Smells so good. These guys offer traditional fare, but usually have a speciality item or 2 at any given moment...if they have it...try the BBQ Cheesesteak...so good!  Sauce is typical KC style sauce.  

 

10.  Gates.  Another of the KC originals.  Lives more off reputation than anything these days but you can still get good food here.  You may know this places as the joint wehre they yell "HI MAY I HELP YOU!!!" as you are standing in line...you give kind of yell your order back to them..all the years I've been and somehow they never screw up my order when you think surely this disorganized chaotic system can't possibly get good accurate results..but it does somehow.  Gates used to have some of the best ribs in town....best way to enjoy gates is either a beef on bun with fries, or just get a mixed plate and share it with a friend.  Gates by default, usues their original sauce on things....and gates original sauces is peppery.  I really like their sauce, but they also have a sweet n mild version that is also very good and more typical of a KC style sauce you find in most places.  They've also got a hot n spicy version.  If you aren't sure about the sauce situation, when you are ordering just yell up at the lady....for example beef on bun DRY!   Or "MIXED PLATE DRY"  they won't put any sauce on it...then you can grab some of each and see what you like.  ...don't get me wrong on my rating here...I could eat at GATES all day....but KC has so many others...and better to choose from....

 

11.  Rosedales.  The last of the old schoolers...Rosedales is pretty cheap....it's not especially good, but they do have some stuff that's decent and well priced.  Smoked sausage sandwich is really good.  Alot of folks like the corn nuggets and fried mushrooms.  You can probalby get a slab of ribs here cheaper than anywhere else in town.  Rosedales has a very vinegary tart sauce....more familiar to texas BBQ than KC.  As a kid, my dad would buy a slab here and you'd eat it but try and pick around the sauce...as an adult I can appreciate the sauce now, but it's not for everyone.  Hit it up if you like a tart vinegar sauce.....or a cheap slab of ribs (with said tart sauce) ...or a pretty good cheap smoked sausage sandwich.....and some corn nuggets.  

 

Here are few to avoid...in my opinion....the first one might be Rosedales...probalby not a place out of towners ought to try out....would ruin your first ever KC BBQ experience...but its got its good bits...anyhow....

 

Smokin Guns in Norht KC.  Always slow and seems dry and pricy.

 

Haywards....meh

 

Danny Edwards.  This place has the wierd distinction of not having particullary good BBQ at the restaurant...but their catered meals are pretty damn good.  Skip if if you can.

 

Bandanna's.  Not sure they have a location in KC anymore....think they still operate out of St. Joe, MO.  Either way...very MEH. 

 

Dickey's  Somehow this texas chain remains in businees at various locations...if you happen upon one.  DO NOT ENTER.  This is Texas chain BBQ.  It SUCKS.  If you do go in, just remember ths is NOT KC BBQ...we don't claim it.  Texas barely claims it.

 

Want some good sauce to take home?  Stop in any KC area grocery store...you'll find a whole damn isle of nothing but BBQ sauce.  

 

FUN FACT:  When babies are born in Kc, the hospital gives them a droplet of KC style BBQ sauce 

 

If you find a hole in the wall place not mentioned here...try it...it's most likely good.  There are many I didn't mention here.

 

And last....IF BBQ isn't your thing or you get tired of it and want something else...KC has an incredible mexican food scene that's hidden in the shaddows of the BBQ places.....go hit up 7th Street/Argentine district....Taqueria San Antonio..El Polo Rey and so many others down there...GREAT mexican food.

 

 

 

 

WOW, now this is a helpful post. Outstanding! Well done, sir.

[hondo in seattle]

On 10/7/2021 at 3:05 AM, Zerovoltz said:

Some KC BBQ comments that might be useful to those visiting KC....and remember, just like everyone has different opinions about what wings are best and what constitutes a good wing......same is true with KC sytle BBQ...these are my opinions.....and I'm not trying to tell you what is best or worst...mostly I am trying to tell you what to expect.  Most KC BBQ places are really good.  The sauce means more in KC than it does in places like Texas or Memphis etc.  

 

1.  Joes.  Joes is no.1 on alot of lists for good reason....it's good stuff.  If you want to make sure you limited time in KC is utilized on a sure thing....go to Joes...order a Z-man sandwich.  the Z man is an absolute good.  It's impossible not to love it.  Joes has other really good items too, but this is the signalture sandwhich and it's outstanding.  The sauce is a traditional, rich, sweet/smoky KC style sauce.

 

2. Q39.  slightly upscale...but wow....you can't miss with the burnt ends plate or a Mr. Burns sandwich.  The sauce here is a bit more dark and rich, but still KC sweet.

 

3. Jackstack.  The most upscale of the KC BBQ places...Jackstack is notable for it's vareity of ribs..you can get pork ribs here..but you go to this place because yo uwant beef or lamb ribs...so good!  Also...if you are into fried mushrooms....you should try them here...they are huge and tasty.  The sauce is slightly less sweet than typical KC sauce...still quite good.

 

4.  Arthur Bryants.  Not located in a great part of town, but no one will bother you right near the restaurant, especially during the daytime.  Bryants is one of the KC originals...old school.  If you want a heaping mountain of meat between 2 pieces of bread with good sauced and a staggering payload of fries for a goog price..you go to Bryants.  The combo sandwich and fries will feed an army for days.  Sauce here is bit more peppery....still good though.  just sweet enough.

 

5.  Johnny's.  If you want a slab of pork ribs....in my opinion...Johnny's are the best.  Good smoked sausages here too.  Sauce is typical rich sweet KC sauce.

 

6.  Slaps.  Slaps is almost more famous for their variety of good sides than for their meats...wich are great too.  Slaps is a joint that you either love or hate due to the sauce.  Slaps sauce is the SWEETEST sauce in KC.  Almost like putting sweet maple syrup on your BBQ....it's not that far off.  If you prefer a darker, richer, smokier sauce, Slaps isn't going to be your thing...but if you like it sweet with good sides...this is your place.  it's quite popular.

 

7.  Smokehouse.  Nothing notable...they kind of do everything good...just not great.  Reccomend the burnt ends here....sauces is a typical rich, sweet smoky sauce.

 

8.  Zardas.  This one I think I problaby rank higher than most in KC...The BBQ BEANS at this place are incredible.  Best beans in KC.  You can buy them in most local grocery stores.  so good.  They have some decent specialty sandwiches.  The "Hog Wild" or Average Joe are both good.

 

9.  Woodyard BBQ.  An off the beaten path type of place...unique in that they operate as a BBQ wood supplier primarily, but also operate a small BBQ joint thats quite small...most of the seating is outdoors so if you do go to this one...pick a nice sit outside kind of day. The pit is outside next to the trees/outdoor seeting as you arrive.  Smells so good. These guys offer traditional fare, but usually have a speciality item or 2 at any given moment...if they have it...try the BBQ Cheesesteak...so good!  Sauce is typical KC style sauce.  

 

10.  Gates.  Another of the KC originals.  Lives more off reputation than anything these days but you can still get good food here.  You may know this places as the joint wehre they yell "HI MAY I HELP YOU!!!" as you are standing in line...you give kind of yell your order back to them..all the years I've been and somehow they never screw up my order when you think surely this disorganized chaotic system can't possibly get good accurate results..but it does somehow.  Gates used to have some of the best ribs in town....best way to enjoy gates is either a beef on bun with fries, or just get a mixed plate and share it with a friend.  Gates by default, usues their original sauce on things....and gates original sauces is peppery.  I really like their sauce, but they also have a sweet n mild version that is also very good and more typical of a KC style sauce you find in most places.  They've also got a hot n spicy version.  If you aren't sure about the sauce situation, when you are ordering just yell up at the lady....for example beef on bun DRY!   Or "MIXED PLATE DRY"  they won't put any sauce on it...then you can grab some of each and see what you like.  ...don't get me wrong on my rating here...I could eat at GATES all day....but KC has so many others...and better to choose from....

 

11.  Rosedales.  The last of the old schoolers...Rosedales is pretty cheap....it's not especially good, but they do have some stuff that's decent and well priced.  Smoked sausage sandwich is really good.  Alot of folks like the corn nuggets and fried mushrooms.  You can probalby get a slab of ribs here cheaper than anywhere else in town.  Rosedales has a very vinegary tart sauce....more familiar to texas BBQ than KC.  As a kid, my dad would buy a slab here and you'd eat it but try and pick around the sauce...as an adult I can appreciate the sauce now, but it's not for everyone.  Hit it up if you like a tart vinegar sauce.....or a cheap slab of ribs (with said tart sauce) ...or a pretty good cheap smoked sausage sandwich.....and some corn nuggets.  

 

Here are few to avoid...in my opinion....the first one might be Rosedales...probalby not a place out of towners ought to try out....would ruin your first ever KC BBQ experience...but its got its good bits...anyhow....

 

Smokin Guns in Norht KC.  Always slow and seems dry and pricy.

 

Haywards....meh

 

Danny Edwards.  This place has the wierd distinction of not having particullary good BBQ at the restaurant...but their catered meals are pretty damn good.  Skip if if you can.

 

Bandanna's.  Not sure they have a location in KC anymore....think they still operate out of St. Joe, MO.  Either way...very MEH. 

 

Dickey's  Somehow this texas chain remains in businees at various locations...if you happen upon one.  DO NOT ENTER.  This is Texas chain BBQ.  It SUCKS.  If you do go in, just remember ths is NOT KC BBQ...we don't claim it.  Texas barely claims it.

 

Want some good sauce to take home?  Stop in any KC area grocery store...you'll find a whole damn isle of nothing but BBQ sauce.  

 

FUN FACT:  When babies are born in Kc, the hospital gives them a droplet of KC style BBQ sauce 

 

If you find a hole in the wall place not mentioned here...try it...it's most likely good.  There are many I didn't mention here.

 

And last....IF BBQ isn't your thing or you get tired of it and want something else...KC has an incredible mexican food scene that's hidden in the shaddows of the BBQ places.....go hit up 7th Street/Argentine district....Taqueria San Antonio..El Polo Rey and so many others down there...GREAT mexican food.

 

 

 

 

Thanks Zero.  I just moved to KC three months ago and this gives me a great idea where I should eat next.  I've already been to your top 3 BBQ places - all great.   

 

Looking forward to exploring the rest of your list.

 

I haven't had great Mexican here yet but will try your suggestions.  

 

 

[QB Bills]

Any tips on getting tickets for Sunday? Never been to arrowhead before. Should I buy now or wait until closer to gametime? Especially now that weather might be an issue..

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, BUFFALOBART said:

Rent a Limo. Chances are, the Limo driver will have all of the information that you need.

 

I’m just looking for tailgate plans— still no word from pinto.  

[BADOLBILZ]

On 10/7/2021 at 6:16 AM, GunnerBill said:

 

We already have some of the traits without the arrogance that success brings. This fanbase would be unbearable with a Lombardi. I'm still here for it though  

 

 

Rest assured,  the Bills fan arrogance was out of control in the early 90's.    Which only made the whimpering and complaining after SB losses more satisfying to the opposition and definitely contributed to the rest of the country getting really sick of the Bills making it to SB's.      

[zow2]

United Airlines typically doesn't fly nonstop from BUF to KC, but they have one regularly scheduled nonstop today leaving at 4;30p.  I looked into it.  Pretty cool. they knew the demand would be high. The return flight is Monday.  

[CookieG]

1 hour ago, zow2 said:

United Airlines typically doesn't fly nonstop from BUF to KC, but they have one regularly scheduled nonstop today leaving at 4;30p.  I looked into it.  Pretty cool. they knew the demand would be high. The return flight is Monday.  

Its actually pretty rare to find a direct flight from KCI to BUF on any airline.  Living in KS, I've flown KC-Buf maybe 2 dozen times and only had a direct flight once.  So congrats on the rare find. Tip:  United seems to have more restrictive baggage requirements.  At least when we flew 3 years ago, the only baggage that was free was the one you could put under your seat.  They charged for the ones you put in the overhead compartment. 

 

And if you, (or anyone else), has never been to KCI, it is one of the easiest airports to navigate.  IT is shaped like a cloverleaf, with a big circle connecting the terminals and smaller circles for each terminal.  If you miss either or terminal or gate area, just drive around the circle again.  There are shuttles to take you to the car rental area. 

 

Buffalo's Airport just sucks...it really does.

 

 

[CookieG]

On 10/7/2021 at 9:30 PM, Zerovoltz said:

THANKS!  

 

I don't disagree with the notion that everyone should have some Gates and Bryants....the OG's of KC BBQ.....I would just say, if you want to 100% make sure that your out of town guest who might be only getting one taste of KC style, is going to love it....I gotta say you go to Joes.  

 

Bryants and Gates are bucket list type places...but if your out of town boss was coming to town and your promotion was riding on your boss enjoying his lunch meeting with you, and he wanted BBQ....you go to Joes and sleep well the night before.

I agree with most of that unless your boss to be is a name dropper.  At Arthur Bryant's you can bring up that 4 presidents have eaten there, (OK 3, I'm sure Clinton had someone get a take out order at one time), actors, directors, etc, etc.  Its a good way to show your prospective boss your research skills, lol.

[Bermuda Triangle]

14 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Rest assured,  the Bills fan arrogance was out of control in the early 90's.    Which only made the whimpering and complaining after SB losses more satisfying to the opposition and definitely contributed to the rest of the country getting really sick of the Bills making it to SB's.      

yeah, it was out of control on social media, etc.!

[BADOLBILZ]

50 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said:

yeah, it was out of control on social media, etc.!

 

People communicated amongst each other before social media.   For real.   "We're back, deal with it America!" 

 

And any pent up energy not used during the week came out at the games.

 

People would be floored today by the poor treatment Bills fans used to give the opposition during those winning years.

 

That would be followed up by call in shows and letters to the editor and nightly news reports.

 

I've cited the Peter King story about the employees at Foxboro referring to Bills fans as "huns".

 

As wildly insecure as our fanbase is it would be foolish to think that winning SB's would be handled graciously.

[Patrick Duffy]

11 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

People would be floored today by the poor treatment Bills fans used to give the opposition during those winning years.

 

That would be followed up by call in shows and letters to the editor and nightly news reports.

 

I've cited the Peter King story about the employees at Foxboro referring to Bills fans as "huns".

 

As wildly insecure as our fanbase is it would be foolish to think that winning SB's would be handled graciously

I do recall how some Bills fans were back then and yeah at times wasn't a pretty sight, but I wouldn't say any worse than some of what we see today. Maybe the long drought might have made some (not all) change their act.

 

As for the bold, imo I think if Bills win a SB most/majority would handle graciously. Still will always have those fans for every team here and there that are a-holes. But with all the frustrating years of losing, I think a lot of Bills fans would react a lot better than you think.

[K-9]

On 10/6/2021 at 2:24 AM, NewEra said:

My buddy and I arrive Saturday night 8 pm and fly out Monday @9pm.  We have an apartment in P&L and will be looking for some debauchery. My boy is going through a divorce and needs to blow off some steam.  What’s going on this weekend in KC?
 

Who’s making the trip?  

I hear there’s a lotta crazy women there so your boy may be in luck. 

[BADOLBILZ]

3 hours ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

I do recall how some Bills fans were back then and yeah at times wasn't a pretty sight, but I wouldn't say any worse than some of what we see today. Maybe the long drought might have made some (not all) change their act.

 

As for the bold, imo I think if Bills win a SB most/majority would handle graciously. Still will always have those fans for every team here and there that are a-holes. But with all the frustrating years of losing, I think a lot of Bills fans would react a lot better than you think.

 

I'm just responding to the people wondering if Bills fans will be gracious, in general.

 

They will not.   There will be much gloating and wearing of gaudy championship gear etc..

 

They will be trolling opposing teams social media looking for respect/admiration/hate.............especially when the realization hits them that your team winning a championship doesn't tangibly impact much in your life........so there will be a lot of them out on the lookout for satisfaction.

    

[DrPJax]

On 10/6/2021 at 6:09 PM, PJBrown7 said:

I’m having surgery Monday morning (knee replacement) so no for me. I’m in Nashville so I’ll be watching next weeks game from the recliner with ice on the knee (and in my glass!). I did get to Miami though so all good. Go Bills!!!

Best wishes and good luck!  Hope the Sunday night game chills your own pre game jitters! Hope the Bills give you a great , cheerful, serenity as you head in to surgery the following morning and. I am confident you are headed to better days and more comfortable pacing as the Bills keep marching themselves toward that elusive super bowl! 

[Bob in STL]

6 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

People communicated amongst each other before social media.   For real.   "We're back, deal with it America!" 

 

And any pent up energy not used during the week came out at the games.

 

People would be floored today by the poor treatment Bills fans used to give the opposition during those winning years.

 

That would be followed up by call in shows and letters to the editor and nightly news reports.

 

I've cited the Peter King story about the employees at Foxboro referring to Bills fans as "huns".

 

As wildly insecure as our fanbase is it would be foolish to think that winning SB's would be handled graciously.

This is all pretty much crap.   Stop referring to the few bad actors as the majority of Bills fans.  There were a lot of great and gracious Bills fans then, as there is now.  I’ve lived all over the country and have a totally different experience.  

 

 

[MiltonWaddams]

5 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

I'm just responding to the people wondering if Bills fans will be gracious, in general.

 

They will not.   There will be much gloating and wearing of gaudy championship gear etc..

 

They will be trolling opposing teams social media looking for respect/admiration/hate.............especially when the realization hits them that your team winning a championship doesn't tangibly impact much in your life........so there will be a lot of them out on the lookout for satisfaction.

    

Speak for yourself! Every iota of self-respect I have left is tied to the fact that I currently support a championship calibre NFL team. You better believe that it will make a tangible difference in my life if they win a Super Bowl. I will walk taller, speak prouder, be a better father, women will want to be with me and men will want to be me.

[BADOLBILZ]

14 hours ago, Bob in STL said:

This is all pretty much crap.   Stop referring to the few bad actors as the majority of Bills fans.  There were a lot of great and gracious Bills fans then, as there is now.  I’ve lived all over the country and have a totally different experience.  

 

 

 

 

I trashed this "crap" take of yours earlier........pointing out how being 1,000 miles from where "the majority" of the fanbase was in 1990 essentially disqualified you from telling me how it was in WNY at the time.

 

While you were waiting on your copy of Shout! magazine to find out what was going on,  I was here living it every day.   

 

And it' doesn't take "the majority" of Bills fans to make the fanbase look ingracious.

 

As a "worldly" man myself I spent a good deal of time as a kid visiting my relatives in the Boston area and going to Red Sox and Bruins games and I can tell you that "the majority" of Boston sports fans are actually very nice people.   Humbled by not winning the thing they wanted most......a World Series....... for about 100 years.   Superstitious and fatalistic like a lot of Bills fans.   If anyone can relate to domination like the Pats against the Bills in the 2000's...... it's a long time Red Sox fan after a 100 years of domination by the Yankees.

 

But to bitter Bills fans on TSW........Boston fans are all spoiled and ingracious in victory and denial in defeat.    In reality,  it's just enough of a % to notice.    But of course,  the "Bills Mafia" would never be like that.   The minute someone in the media has a negative take on the team they try to cancel that person.   Thinking they will be more gracious in victory is ridiculous. 

[Bob in STL]

6 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

I trashed this "crap" take of yours earlier........pointing out how being 1,000 miles from where "the majority" of the fanbase was in 1990 essentially disqualified you from telling me how it was in WNY at the time.

 

While you were waiting on your copy of Shout! magazine to find out what was going on,  I was here living it every day.   

 

And it' doesn't take "the majority" of Bills fans to make the fanbase look ingracious.

 

As a "worldly" man myself I spent a good deal of time as a kid visiting my relatives in the Boston area and going to Red Sox and Bruins games and I can tell you that "the majority" of Boston sports fans are actually very nice people.   Humbled by not winning the thing they wanted most......a World Series....... for about 100 years.   Superstitious and fatalistic like a lot of Bills fans.   If anyone can relate to domination like the Pats against the Bills in the 2000's...... it's a long time Red Sox fan after a 100 years of domination by the Yankees.

 

But to bitter Bills fans on TSW........Boston fans are all spoiled and ingracious in victory and denial in defeat.    In reality,  it's just enough of a % to notice.    But of course,  the "Bills Mafia" would never be like that.   The minute someone in the media has a negative take on the team they try to cancel that person.   Thinking they will be more gracious in victory is ridiculous. 

You claim to be an expert on how the Bills fans are perceived based on your knowledge from the inside.  That makes you less qualified.  I had a traveling job and was in both coasts, the south, and the Midwest.  Bills fans are not looked at as negatively as you say.  

[The Dean]

7 minutes ago, Bob in STL said:

You claim to be an expert on how the Bills fans are perceived based on your knowledge from the inside.  That makes you less qualified.  I had a traveling job and was in both coasts, the south, and the Midwest.  Bills fans are not looked at as negatively as you say.  

 

 

How one perceives the behavior of a fan base is very subjective. Not only do your feelings/attitude/etc impact it, it also varies by what fans you happen to come into contact with.  As I kept getting better/bigger jobs, I moved around a bit in the 90s.  My experience is that Bills fans strutted a bit more than in the past (who can blame them) and yes, some were idiots. I suspect if you were in WNY the entire time, you saw more Bills fans and, therefore, saw more obnoxious Bills fans. 

 

Social media was more or less non-existent then, so I'm guessing if it happened today, the fans would seem to be much worse, as of course we are expected to just be moronic idiots online every day. People are meaner/crueler online, obviously.  Just take a peek at this forum---and this thread.

 

The biggest transformation of a fan base, IMO, as been with the Pats* fans. I  lived in the Boston area in the late 80s. It seemed like most of them were NY Giants fans. It was very easy to get a ticket to a game there. I saw very few, if any, Pats* flags flying from cars or in front of houses. Saw a lot of Giants flags, though. I suppose it's somewhat understandable given their amazing success for such a long time. But I consider their fan base to be fairly weak overall. When they hit a losing streak, I suspect many of those fans will disappear. 

 

OTOH, Steeler fans also can be a bit unbearable. But they always seemed like real fans to me. And I've never had an issue dealing with them. 

[Zerovoltz]

For those that went...I hope my city treated you well and that you found some good BBQ somewhere.  Congratulations on your victory.  

[BADOLBILZ]

7 hours ago, Bob in STL said:

You claim to be an expert on how the Bills fans are perceived based on your knowledge from the inside.  That makes you less qualified.  I had a traveling job and was in both coasts, the south, and the Midwest.  Bills fans are not looked at as negatively as you say.  

 

 

We have a thread on TSW of Bills fans going to the opposing teams fan sites to gloat and enjoy their misery............you can pretend that SB success wouldn't go to Bills fans heads.   It's out of touch,  but you do you. 

 

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

You lucky bastards in KC right now! You played with fire and won. 

 

Looked like a good amount of Bills fans in the stadium. Happy for them all.

[2020 Our Year For Sure]

2 hours ago, Zerovoltz said:

For those that went...I hope my city treated you well and that you found some good BBQ somewhere.  Congratulations on your victory.  

Chiefs fans were almost all a pleasure to interact with. Lovely people out here. A lot of friendly conversations as if we were wearing the same colors.