ThurmanThomasEnglishMuffin Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Rochesterfan said: That guy is so off - this signing actually saves the Bills significant CAP space next year - a little more up front this year and in 2023 with the new TV deal. Perfectly done by Beane. Signing while the cap is low is a bright move. I didn't think it could be done. This deal and the Dak deal might look very smart a season or two from now. Still need to see details of payouts/ years. Jerry Jones might be annoying, but he is not stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 14 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Quick check in at the Jets forum: Cap space and defense winning championships. I'm so glad we're past those days. To the Jets guy 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 Up against the cap with one of the best QB's on the planet, oh the horror. Cute Jets fan, grasping for hope. We get it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaccof Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 7 hours ago, LeGOATski said: Why does this make me nervous? 😬 Because you're a Bills fan and as a Bills fan, good news is always viewed with a skeptical, nervous eye....until the team wins a SB, its a perfectly natural reaction....particularly if you're a long time Bills fan..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 What a glorious day! Congratulations to Josh Allen and his family. All the hard work has paid off. I'm so ready for the season to start. GO BILLS!!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Seoulofstone said: Even though she's now doubting a different group of young Bills players? I guess some people embrace negative opinions. Nothing negative about it at all. If you asked Beane if he thinks those guys need to step up, I’m pretty sure he’d agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 (edited) 55 minutes ago, TroutDog said: You've proven my point: it’s not NYS tax, it’s where he is playing. The balance CAN be mitigated. You're very confused. Allen plays most of his games in NYS. Things like bonuses are in NYS... You also said where he makes his 'home' which is just totally incorrect. You were wrong. It happens to all of us. Don't get silly trying to pretend otherwise. Edited August 7, 2021 by jeremy2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous Guy Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 20 minutes ago, chaccof said: Because you're a Bills fan and as a Bills fan, good news is always viewed with a skeptical, nervous eye....until the team wins a SB, its a perfectly natural reaction....particularly if you're a long time Bills fan..... Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 I just had a thought that wasn't pleasant. Could you imagine if we traded out from taking Mahomes one year and the very next we passed on Allen and took Rosen? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 26 minutes ago, chaccof said: Because you're a Bills fan and as a Bills fan, good news is always viewed with a skeptical, nervous eye....until the team wins a SB, its a perfectly natural reaction....particularly if you're a long time Bills fan..... Long enough... my whole life as a Bills Fan has only been filled with failure until last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 Just now, Beast said: I just had a thought that wasn't pleasant. Could you imagine if we traded out from taking Mahomes one year and the very next we passed on Allen and took Rosen? THat's basically the Jets...took a safety instead of Mahomes and then Darnold instead of Allen 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 I think that the tax payers should pay Josh's salary and the Pegula's pay for their stadium. That would be an easier sell to the public. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulofstone Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 13 minutes ago, SCBills said: Nothing negative about it at all. If you asked Beane if he thinks those guys need to step up, I’m pretty sure he’d agree. You're missing the point. She is one of the brainless analysts who always go for low hanging fruit. Classic example- Josh sucks when it was the majority view. If you always go with consensus you will be right more often than not. Now she's like "young players need to improve." I mean if that's the kind of insight you hitch your wagon to....fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 Just now, Seoulofstone said: You're missing the point. She is one of the brainless analysts who always go for low hanging fruit. Classic example- Josh sucks when it was the majority view. If you always go with consensus you will be right more often than not. Now she's like "young players need to improve." I mean if that's the kind of insight you hitch your wagon to....fair enough. For ESPN, she’s pretty good.. and everything she said today is accurate. Josh Allen, elite - accurate Bills FO, elite - accurate When asked by Steve Levy what changes for Buffalo when this contracts kicks, she responded that we cant wait years for high draft picks to develop when money gets a bit tighter - accurate It’s not that serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 1 hour ago, ThurmanThomasEnglishMuffin said: With Mahomes/ Allen/ Herbert/ Burrow etc the AFC should dominate the next 5-10 years. It's a matter of playoff seeding and wins vs the AFC. We are locked and loaded, draft well and prosper. not to mention Mayfield, Jackson, and likely T-Law as well. (although the Jags still have some big ?s) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: Quick check in at the Jets forum: Cap space and defense winning championships. I'm so glad we're past those days. They just don't get it. The Bills have their core players locked up through at least the 2022 season & Josh's cap number went down by $6.7 million dollars in 2022. So now if they started the day with less than a million they now have over $7 million in cap room with the new contract, and that's before they rework Edmund's contract if they extend him beyond his 5th year option & lower his 2022 cap hit from it's current projected $12.7 million. Here's why: Josh will get paid over $46.5 million next year in real $, but $42 million of it is in a fully guaranteed roster option. Since the $42 million is amortized over 5 years it adds (rounded) $8.5 million to next year's cap . His base salary, which was $23.1 million has been dropped to $4.1 million. Add in this year's $16,500,000 signing bonus divided by 5 years to get another $3.3 million & $500 k workout bonus & his cap number is $16.38 million. So his cap hit goes from (unrounded) $23,106,000 to $16,380,000, a cap savings of $6,726,000 even though Josh will more than double in real cash what his 5th year option would have paid next year with no extension. Meanwhile, the Jets plan is to draft a new QB with a top 5 pick every few years and never have to give him a 2nd contract at big $ and give their fans bragging rights to a lot of cap space going into each offseason. Here's a link to Josh's cap hits every year of the new contract if you want to see the numbers in a chart: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/josh-allen-25102/ Edited August 7, 2021 by Albany,n.y. 5 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 This is why I love this guy 2 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 8 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I love that Beane got Tre White and Allen done before the competition got done. Definitely saved money with White. The Allen deal seems right on target. But you never know what Jackson and Mayfield get. Nor will we care. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 7 hours ago, Sundancer said: Oy yi yi. Lamar can singlehandedly you win a game. Taylor could single handedly make an occasional 6 yard pass out of a broken mess on a single play. I would say Allen is much better than Lamar but Lamar is scary. He’s gonna get a nice payday. The problem is Lamar is one dimensional. When that one dimension on a QB isn't "good at throwing the football", they end up a regular season hero. There's ways to lock him down like the Bills and Titans have shown. Gimmick offenses don't thrive against playoff defenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulofstone Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 31 minutes ago, SCBills said: For ESPN, she’s pretty good.. and everything she said today is accurate. Josh Allen, elite - accurate Bills FO, elite - accurate When asked by Steve Levy what changes for Buffalo when this contracts kicks, she responded that we cant wait years for high draft picks to develop when money gets a bit tighter - accurate It’s not that serious. Glad you enjoy her thoughts. Heres Joe Marino's podcast on the extension a great listen IMO. https://www.stitcher.com/show/locked-on-bills/episode/emergency-podcast-buffalo-bills-qb-josh-allen-signs-six-year-contract-extension-85941450 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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