It's Time to Mandate Vaccines

[BillStime]

Dereliction of duty - pro-life party strikes again.  So preventable and sad.

 

 

[BillStime]

Stupid is as stupid does...

 

 

[dpberr]

20 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

Brought to you by the CCP DNC and the WHO:

 

FRIDAY NEWS DUMP!

 

After 3-month probe, intelligence community 'divided' on COVID-19's origins

 

 

U.S. intelligence agencies remain "divided on the most likely origins of COVID-19," after President Joe Biden's 90-day push for his intel community to "redouble their efforts" to find a more definitive conclusion regarding the source of the virus.

In a declassified summary released late Friday afternoon, the agencies said that two hypotheses for the virus' origin remain possible: either natural exposure to an infected animal, or an accidental lab leak.

 

Four elements of the U.S. intelligence community said with "low confidence" that COVID-19 was initially spread from an animal to a human, while one element assessed with "moderate confidence" that the first human infection was the result of a "laboratory-associated incident, probably involving experimentation, animal handling, or sampling by the Wuhan Institute of Virology," and pointing to the "inherently risky nature of work on Coronaviruses."

 

The agencies, however, generally agreed that the virus was most likely not developed as a biological weapon, and that China's leaders did not know about the virus before the start of the global pandemic.

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/biden-briefed-us-intel-assessment-covid-19s-origins/story?id=79568787

 

 

 

 

Next step:  Ban GOF research and treat it like chemical and biological weapons research.    

 

SARS and COVID were research projects that broke containment. 

 

SARS and COVID have no natural origin smoking guns, and never will, because nature didn't make them.  

[Chef Jim]

6 hours ago, BillStime said:

Spin it any way you want sunshine but this isn’t about research - your fellow cult members are already taking it cuz your “leaders” are pontificating on it.

 

 

 

Ummmm yeah the Tweet you shared was all about research Twit for Brains. 

 

 

[unbillievable]

[Chef Jim]

5 hours ago, BillStime said:

Stupid is as stupid does...

 

 

 

So Denmark is better at getting it's people to get the vaccine.  This one's on Biden right?  Just checking for a friend. 

[SoCal Deek]

23 minutes ago, unbillievable said:

Speaking of Braveheart….wasn’t Biden supposed to unite the clans? Or is he saving that for after intermission?

[BillStime]

26 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

So Denmark is better at getting it's people to get the vaccine.  This one's on RED STATES right?  Just checking for a friend. 

Fixed it for you 

[Chef Jim]

8 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Fixed it for you 

So 12 months ago this was 100% on the President and now it’s 100% on the states?   Did I get that right?  😏

 

[Big Blitz]

Lol like they didn't know this 12 months ago.

 

They've been lying since January 2020.  Nothing shocking here:

 

 

 

Infectious disease expert: Americans must 'recalibrate' vaccine expectations

 

COVID-19 vaccines won't eliminate the coronavirus, "no matter how many booster shots the United States gives," Céline R. Gounder writes for The Atlantic. But that's no reason to panic or lose confidence in them.

 

Grounder, an infectious disease specialist and epidemiologist at New York University's Grossman School of Medicine and Bellevue Hospital in New York City, thinks public health messaging got out of hand early on during the vaccine drive, especially when the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention published real-world evidence that showed that two doses of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines were 90 percent effective at preventing infections, as opposed to just disease.

 

After that, (low info moron) folks got excited, believing that full vaccination status meant you could only very rarely get infected or transmit the disease. But now that the efficacy appears to be lower, there's a lot of anxiety.

 

Grounder says Americans simply need to "recalibrate our expectations about what makes a vaccine successful." While "the public discussion of the pandemic has become distorted by a presumption that vaccination can and should eliminate COVID-19 entirely," that's not an attainable standard, she argues. And it's one that makes "each breakthrough infection" look "like evidence that the vaccines are not working," even though they're performing "extremely well" and reducing what may have been serious infections to either mild or asymptomatic ones. Read Grounder's full piece at The Atlantic.

 

https://theweek.com/vaccines/1004268/infectious-disease-expert-americans-must-recalibrate-vaccine-expectations

[Orlando Tim]

41 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

Lol like they didn't know this 12 months ago.

 

They've been lying since January 2020.  Nothing shocking here:

 

 

 

Infectious disease expert: Americans must 'recalibrate' vaccine expectations

 

COVID-19 vaccines won't eliminate the coronavirus, "no matter how many booster shots the United States gives," Céline R. Gounder writes for The Atlantic. But that's no reason to panic or lose confidence in them.

 

Grounder, an infectious disease specialist and epidemiologist at New York University's Grossman School of Medicine and Bellevue Hospital in New York City, thinks public health messaging got out of hand early on during the vaccine drive, especially when the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention published real-world evidence that showed that two doses of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines were 90 percent effective at preventing infections, as opposed to just disease.

 

After that, (low info moron) folks got excited, believing that full vaccination status meant you could only very rarely get infected or transmit the disease. But now that the efficacy appears to be lower, there's a lot of anxiety.

 

Grounder says Americans simply need to "recalibrate our expectations about what makes a vaccine successful." While "the public discussion of the pandemic has become distorted by a presumption that vaccination can and should eliminate COVID-19 entirely," that's not an attainable standard, she argues. And it's one that makes "each breakthrough infection" look "like evidence that the vaccines are not working," even though they're performing "extremely well" and reducing what may have been serious infections to either mild or asymptomatic ones. Read Grounder's full piece at The Atlantic.

 

https://theweek.com/vaccines/1004268/infectious-disease-expert-americans-must-recalibrate-vaccine-expectations

The issue is twofold in my opinion: they promised the vaccine would allow back to normal life which is untrue and the efficacy of the vaccine after 6-8 months is not great. My parents live in a retirement community and Covid is raging there the past two weeks amongst people who were vaccinated in February. This community never had a major Covid outbreak until the past few weeks.

[Big Blitz]

7 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

The issue is twofold in my opinion: they promised the vaccine would allow back to normal life which is untrue 

 

 

Um.   Yep.   I was hoping I'd get this response to this post I can't believe its the first reply.   It's exactly why I posted it.  

 

And you wonder why we have a problem here.  

 

 

There are 10 or so Governors in America that understand this is either the intent (Great Reset), or the global fascist socialists of the world trying to cement a permanent biomedical police state.  

 

Every single mandate needs to be resisted and you just said why.  

 

We did everything "we were told" in order to get back to normal.  We didn't sign up for ANYTHING else.  

 

[Big Blitz]

 

 

But remember all the mask mandates were because they care about you .......***t........legit everything we're doing is allegedly because "we care about you."

 

[Big Blitz]

 

[Sundancer]

10 hours ago, BillStime said:

Dereliction of duty - pro-life party strikes again.  So preventable and sad.

 

 

 

That can't be. Two days ago, @Big Blitz said in Florida, "Deaths nowhere near where they were in winter. "

[Big Blitz]

1 hour ago, Sundancer said:

 

That can't be. Two days ago, @Big Blitz said in Florida, "Deaths nowhere near where they were in winter. "

 

Have 30 million people visited any deep blue ***t hole this summer?  Didn't think so. 

 

But I'll look play along a second and look at the data again.....

 

Total recorded cases in Florida between December 1, 2020 and February 15:

 

880,000 Cases in 2 and a half months

 

Florida recorded deaths on December 15, 2020:  21,500 Florida recorded deaths on March 1, 2021:  32,500

 

Total Deaths from Dec 15 to March 1:

 

11,000 recorded deaths over 2 and a half months.  

 

Total cases in Florida from June 30 to August 28, 2021 (have to use years now):

 

900,000 in 2 months  (And cases are about to plummet and hospitalizations dropped by over 300 this weekend.  We get it.  You're running out of time to take out Ron) 

 

Florida deaths July 1, 2021:  38,295

 

Florida deaths Sept 1, 2021:  43,979

 

Total recorded deaths from July 1 to August 28th

 

5,684 in 2 months 

 

 

Math says cases much higher.  Deaths much less.  CFR lower.  IFR most definitely lower.  Let's keep hiding.  

 

It's also summer.  Cases will be much higher then December 2020 they are full open and people are choosing to live their lives.  Death rate...still lower.  

 

But that doesn't really matter unless you are an idiot that thinks vaccines will save us and the virus will be eradicated.  Not going anywhere. 

 

Get vaccinated or not because here is the only question that matters for the free state of Florida.  How many of these deaths are among the unvaccinated --- and why do you care?  You are wishing death to them anyway.  It's their call.  YOLO

 

The other questions that should matter to parents especially the ones taking the risk of sending their kids into Ebola central and think a piece of cloth will keep everyone virus free...

 

How many of these deaths were among people under 12?  Its all that matters at this point.  

 

Time to drop everything and live with it.  President DeSantis understands this.  He understands there as insidious group of people who think they're actions are super noble and will save people but in reality (a place liberals are unaware exists).....they are completely worthless.  

 

Much like those people that want to mandate them. 

 

Plexiglass.  Lololololol.  

Edited August 29, 2021 by Big Blitz

[Governor]

1 hour ago, Sundancer said:

 

That can't be. Two days ago, @Big Blitz said in Florida, "Deaths nowhere near where they were in winter. "

He also said it already peaked.

[Big Blitz]

8 minutes ago, Governor said:

He also said it already peaked.

 

 

“We, for the last three days, have seen the number starting to fall with regards to our total number of hospitalizations for COVID. I do believe that we have not only plateaued, but I believe we have peaked,” Dr. Neil Finkler of AdventHealth said at a briefing Thursday.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2021/08/26/hospitalizations-drop-in-orlando-amid-water-crisis-from-oxygen-shortage/

 

 

 

Edited August 29, 2021 by Big Blitz

[Boatdrinks]

6 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Um.   Yep.   I was hoping I'd get this response to this post I can't believe its the first reply.   It's exactly why I posted it.  

 

And you wonder why we have a problem here.  

 

 

There are 10 or so Governors in America that understand this is either the intent (Great Reset), or the global fascist socialists of the world trying to cement a permanent biomedical police state.  

 

Every single mandate needs to be resisted and you just said why.  

 

We did everything "we were told" in order to get back to normal.  We didn't sign up for ANYTHING else.  

 

Exactly. Although I’d say the vaccines WILL allow it. Left wing politicians and their obedient followers will not. The vaccines are doing their job, further mitigation is of minimal consequence and unnecessary. Just a means of constant governmental control of daily life. 

[Doc Brown]

22 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Exactly. Although I’d say the vaccines WILL allow it. Left wing politicians and their obedient followers will not. The vaccines are doing their job, further mitigation is of minimal consequence and unnecessary. Just a means of constant governmental control of daily life. 

I agree somewhat especially when it comes to mask mandates.  However, the majority of blue states percentage wise have more people vaccinated.  The threat of further mitigation is seems to drive up those numbers which saves lives.  It's a strange dynamic.

[Governor]

Off topic, but I’ve never seen anything like this before. This is the extent of excuses for this player. It’s truly remarkable.

 

The never ending Edmunds debate. 

 

I'm convinced that most people misunderstand Edmunds role in the defense.   I'm not certain, but I'm pretty sure.  

 

I said something like this in the thread about today's game:  I think if you the Bills would talk to you frankly about Edmunds, they'd tell you that outside the red zone, his focus is primarily to defend space laterally and behind him.  Only when the opponent is inside the 10 is Edmunds' role primarily to defend in front of him.  

 

That's not at all how most of us, including me, understand the role of the middle linebacker, but that's what I think his role is.   Given his size, speed, and quickness, he's good in the role he's asked to play.   

 

It's obvious to me that McDermott thinks winning in the NFL is all about passing and stopping the pass.  Edmunds is an excellent player in a defense designed to stop the pass.   He doesn't need to defend a lot of passes, or intercept a lot of passes.   He needs to cover a lot of territory and discourage teams from throwing in that area of the field.   He does that.  

 

Some people will say, "What about Kelce and the Chiefs?"   The Chiefs ran plays designed to option off what Edmunds did.  They outplanned the Bills, but the Bills will have an answer for that scheme. 

[Big Blitz]

Rev. Jesse Jackson transferred to rehab facility, unvaccinated wife in ICU as COVID-19 symptoms persist

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/covid-19-jesse-jackson-in-rehab-center-unvaccinated-wife-in-icu-2021-8

 

 

 

 

Vaccine Refusers Don't Get to Dictate Terms Anymore

 

"Getting a shot to protect yourself and others from COVID-19 is both a social responsibility and the best way to hasten the end of the pandemic, and if you don’t believe that, we’re not waiting around for you to step up."

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/08/vaccine-refusers-hesitancy-mandates-fda-delta/619918/

 

 

 

K.

[Big Blitz]

New COVID variant detected in South Africa, most mutated variant so far

 

 

 

A new coronavirus variant, C.1.2, has been detected in South Africa and a number of other countries, with concerns that it could be more infectious and evade vaccines, according to a new preprint study by South Africa's National Institute for Communicable Diseases and the KwaZulu-Natal Research Innovation and Sequencing Platform. The study is awaiting peer review.

 

Scientists first detected C.1.2 in May 2021, finding that it was descended from C.1, which scientists found surprising as C.1 had last been detected in January. The new variant has "mutated substantially" compared to C.1 and is more mutations away from the original virus detected in Wuhan than any other Variant of Concern (VOC) or Variant of Interest (VOI) detected so far worldwide.

 

While first detected in South Africa, C.1.2 has since been found in England, China, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Mauritius, New Zealand, Portugal and Switzerland.

 

https://www.jpost.com/health-science/new-covid-variant-detected-in-south-africa-most-mutated-variant-so-far-678011

 

 

 

 

If the U.S. just gets to 90% vaccinated this all ends we super swear.....

[B-Man]

 

 

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/mask-mandate-farce

 

Even before taking the top job, she told NBC’s “Today” that she intends to mandate masks for all public school students in the state.

 

She’s got President Joe Biden and the Democratic Party on her side, but the science is against her. There are no studies that demonstrate forcing young kids to wear masks reduces the spread of COVID-19 in schools.

 

Mandates that settle for cloth masks with cartoon characters on them are a joke.

 

Most of the masks kids are wearing are laughably ineffective. A cloth mask blocks only 3 percent of viral particles from reaching the wearer, according to a study in the British Medical Journal. For such a minuscule difference, who would force kids to struggle with masks all day?

 

 

[Big Blitz]

I guess the masks aren't working in Oregon

 

 

 

[Big Blitz]

Fauci: 100,000 new Covid deaths in US ‘predictable but preventable’

 

As many as 100,000 new Covid-19 deaths in the US by December is “predictable but preventable”, the leading US infectious diseases expert said on Sunday, as dozens of states reported rapidly increasing fatalities.

 

Amid resistance in some states to public health measures and mandates, the Delta variant of the virus has pushed up deaths in 14 states by more than 50% in a week, and by at least 10% in 28 more, according to Johns Hopkins University. Those figures follow a dire warning from the University of Washington that tens of thousands more could die, with a daily peak of 1,400 by mid-September.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/29/anthony-fauci-covid-deaths-vaccinations

 

 

All I read is a country that's wide open "might" see 75% less daily deaths then they did in April 2020 and January 2021 in twice the length of time.  And a death total over 4 plus months that's the equivalent to an awful flu season.  

 

Get vaccinated or not the choice is yours. 

 

Enough with the f....ing low info fear porn 

[Big Blitz]

Do something about it then.....and tell Crenshaw the same thing

 

 

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

2 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

Fauci: 100,000 new Covid deaths in US ‘predictable but preventable’

 

As many as 100,000 new Covid-19 deaths in the US by December is “predictable but preventable”, the leading US infectious diseases expert said on Sunday, as dozens of states reported rapidly increasing fatalities.

 

Amid resistance in some states to public health measures and mandates, the Delta variant of the virus has pushed up deaths in 14 states by more than 50% in a week, and by at least 10% in 28 more, according to Johns Hopkins University. Those figures follow a dire warning from the University of Washington that tens of thousands more could die, with a daily peak of 1,400 by mid-September.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/29/anthony-fauci-covid-deaths-vaccinations

 

 

All I read is a country that's wide open "might" see 75% less daily deaths then they did in April 2020 and January 2021 in twice the length of time.  And a death total over 4 plus months that's the equivalent to an awful flu season.  

 

Get vaccinated or not the choice is yours. 

 

Enough with the f....ing low info fear porn 

Sure these deaths are preventable.  Just get the FDA to approve treatments for hospitalized patients that have shown efficacy and safety in clinical trials, that show up to 85% reductions in deaths, sitting on their desks for month after month and accelerate trials on promising virus killers like Nitric Oxide nasal sprays that P2 trials have shown kill 95% of the virus in one day of use.  Something these knuckleheads can't seem to comprehend is if the vaccine doesn't stop the virus from spreading, mutating, or incubating in the host you're not going to stop the pandemic.

 

And maybe recognizing the value of naturally acquired immunity. But nothing that can help that isn't focusing on their vaxing obsession seems to matter.

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Notice at the end of the video the student seems to be on his knees resisting. Also notice the other college students laughing at him.

 

This is disturbing because it seems on this particular campus, The University of Tennessee, the kids are hook, line, and sinker when it comes to (probably) vaccinated people being forced to wear masks.

 

These students are our future.

 

Speaking of the future: it's going to be very interesting to see how American police respond to these Covid restrictions. I've been thinking for a while now that here in America it could never happen like it has in, say, Australia. Our police have at least a little bit of dignity.

 

It seems to me this officer really didn't want to do this.

 

But he did.

[Orlando Tim]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/88-old-professor-georgia-resigned-183510351.html

This is absurdly unhealthy expecting 18 year olds to change their behaviors to protect a 88 year old who needs to protect himself. This professor should have retired when he needed everyone else on the planet to protect him. I would fully explain to my parents that if they expect complete strangers to go out of their way so they could feel better they should not be in that situation 

[Big Blitz]

 

[Big Blitz]

Triple Vaxxed is the new Double Vaxxed.

 

Restrictions will be placed on citizens who have only received two Vaccines beginning September 1. People who do not receive a third Vaccine shot will be denied a green passport, which allows entry into public life.

 

“This is simply because, in terms of its effectiveness, the vaccine is valid only for a period of five or six months. After about half a year, you have to get a third dose. Otherwise, the vaccine loses its power.”

 

 

[Orlando Tim]

On 8/26/2021 at 1:46 PM, Chef Jim said:

 

And Biden should be reaching out to the community leaders like I mentioned to get them to motivate people to get it done.  You know......teamwork! 

 

You're just pissed because it's a great idea and your old man didn't think of it because he has no idea how to lead. Not his fault actually. He's had no real role models in DC in the half a century he's been there to show him what true leadership is. 

 

Carry on Follower 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/israel-offers-covid-booster-shot-to-all-eligible-for-vaccine/amp/

 

I know I am stupid for believing the Israel government but between my parents needing a booster 6 months after initial jabs and Israel I am gonna say the efficacy of the shots are not all that effective 6 months after the jab.

[All_Pro_Bills]

29 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/israel-offers-covid-booster-shot-to-all-eligible-for-vaccine/amp/

 

I know I am stupid for believing the Israel government but between my parents needing a booster 6 months after initial jabs and Israel I am gonna say the efficacy of the shots are not all that effective 6 months after the jab.

What's tough about the Coronavirus is that it presents a moving target.  Like the Common Cold virus.  You get one strain of the cold today and then 4 months from now you get another one.  Before this you might see maybe 10 or 15 thousand Coronavirus cases in the US per year.  But none of those prior natural strain varieties had the severity or were as highly infectious as COVID-19.  I say natural strain because I'm totally convinced this COVID-19 strain is man-made from one source or another.  So I'm not at all surprised the vaccine has a limited shelf life and that its less effective against variants.  

 

I know a little about viruses but myself nor anyone else would never, ever consider me a viral expert.  Far from it.  But just like most of us what I do know how to do is read and do research and interpret statistics and data.  So after looking at the nature of this specific virus and forming some conclusions I expected what's unfolding right now to happen.  That the vaccine alone is not going to get the job done.  Now here's the part that pisses me off. 

 

I'm 100% positive all the real "experts" knew this too.  But said nothing (or got censored) other than things like if we get everyone vaccinated and reach "herd immunity" life can return to "normal".  Either lying or withholding information.  That's what aggravates me about this situation.  It was clear as day and yet they fed the public constant BS about the vaccine initiative.  And now its endless booster shot time and some convoluted tracking system and rules to identify the "status" of every person.  More BS.  Somewhere I saw it pointed out that almost all these experts depend on government grants and contracts to perform and continue their "research".  And as it goes its hard to convince a man of the truth when their livelihood depends on not believing it. 

 

And socially all along we're asked to surrender our freedoms for safety and at the moment it appears we have neither.  That's why I've been shouting out about things like instant testing, better treatments for hospitalized patients, and effective virus killing compounds and medications.  Today these things are available.  And nobody in charge of anything is pushing to augment the vaccine initiative with the other available tools that will make the response much more effective.  And bring the outbreak under control through a common sense and achievable plan.   

Edited August 30, 2021 by All_Pro_Bills

[Beach]

do they put that vaccine card anywhere near you before injecting the shot?  once again im asking for a friend.

[RiotAct]

10 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

holy moly

[Big Blitz]

The fact that at this point NO ONE is telling you how this plays out and how we can get back to normal means you're not and they know it.  

 

You have an insidious agenda if you can't rationally explain what's happening as anyone with a brain can draw the logical conclusion this doesn't end and neither will your pathetically masked 7 year old in school.  

 

 

There is a special place in hell for anyone that doesn't acknowledge this.  

Edited August 30, 2021 by Big Blitz

[Big Blitz]

"Refuse?"  What if they can't get it or don't have access?

 

No questions asked media.  Just get the jab that needs a booster in 5 months. 

 

What if you know you are naturally immune and want to wait for the newest version of that vaccine in March 2022?  

 

Sounds like orders.  

 

 

 

 

 

WHO warns of possible 236,000 new COVID-19 deaths in Europe by December, and Fauci says U.S. could see another 100,000

 

The World Health Organization warned Monday that Europe will likely see 236,000 new COVID-19 deaths by Dec. 1, and Dr. Anthony Fauci said the U.S. could suffer another 100,000 deaths in the same time frame, mostly among people who continue to refuse vaccination.

 

https://on.mktw.net/3juSZqM

 

Edited August 30, 2021 by Big Blitz

[Governor]

12 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

Israel has/had extreme right wing authoritarian leadership for most of our lifetime. 

[B-Man]

 

 

YOUR BODY, THEIR CHOICE: 

 

Union for state employees sues Washington Governor Inslee as thousands protest vaccine mandates.

 

https://thepostmillennial.com/state-employee-union-sues-governor-inslee