It's Time to Mandate Vaccines

[Sundancer]

We 

[Orlando Tim]

7 hours ago, BillStime said:

What state do I live in?

You said you live outside Boston- I assume Mass but it could be Maine or Connecticut also.

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

But, we have to keep it going for the false slant against Gov. Desanti !

[B-Man]

 

VETERAN ESPN PRODUCER FIRED FOR REFUSING VAX: 

 

Beth Faber is a widely respected sports radio producer who put in 29 years with ESPN.

 

She chose not to get the Covid jab. Now she’s out of a job.

 

 

https://pjmedia.com/culture/marktapscott/2021/09/05/espn-fires-veteran-producer-who-refused-covid-vaccination-n1476188

[Boatdrinks]

Wow, even some people in the media decide not to get the jab! At supremely woke ESPN nonetheless. 

[Irv]

On 9/3/2021 at 5:14 PM, B-Man said:

 

 

 

 

 

But, we have to keep it going for the false slant against Gov. Desanti !

Buulshit.  I’m fully vaccinated and tested positive on Thursday arms sick as *****.  

[Big Blitz]

Everyone:  "Covid's over."

 

 

 

NY Times:

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 5, 2021 by Big Blitz

[Governor]

34 minutes ago, Irv said:

Buulshit.  I’m fully vaccinated and tested positive on Thursday arms sick as *****.  

What does it feel like? I don’t know anyone who’s had it.

[Irv]

1 hour ago, Governor said:

What does it feel like? I don’t know anyone who’s had it.

Like a really bad cold or minor flu.  Sleep most of the day. Breathing iffy at times.  Not horrible but scary when you can’t breathe a little. Imagination running wild.  I don’t think this thing is over.

Edited September 5, 2021 by Irv

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

11 minutes ago, Irv said:

Like a really bad cold or minor flu.  Sleep most of the day. Breathing iffy at times.  Not horrible but scary when you can’t breathe a little. Imagination running wild.  I don’t think this thing is over.

Hope you feel better buddy. Speedy recovery 

Edited September 5, 2021 by Buffalo Bills Fan

[Irv]

Thanks for all the kind words.  I know we bust balls.  But all in fun.  I went on a fishing trip starting on 8/21 that included flying through multiple cities.     Everyone was vaccinated on my crew of six.  Around the 27th I got sick and it started to snowball with half the other guys.   Half are positive now.   My message is to not trust anything you read or hear.  It seems like total bull####.   Second, the one guy I went with lives in Alaska.  Within two days he was undergoing a 2 hour Monoclonal Antibody 2 hr IV treatment.  My upstate NY ####### Dr who is NEVER available has a greed to do a Telemedicine meeting on Friday.  WTF.  I’ll by hospitalized while he works on his golf score.  

 

The preventative and corrective medicine on this thing is totally random.   DON’T TRUST ANYBODY.  

[The Frankish Reich]

On 9/3/2021 at 3:14 PM, B-Man said:

 

 

 

 

 

But, we have to keep it going for the false slant against Gov. Desanti !

Dr. David Samadi, whoever you are ... you don't seem to understand the meaning of the word "pandemic."

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

7 hours ago, Irv said:

Buulshit.  I’m fully vaccinated and tested positive on Thursday arms sick as *****.  

Jeez Irv good luck!

[Governor]

5 hours ago, Irv said:

Thanks for all the kind words.  I know we bust balls.  But all in fun.  I went on a fishing trip starting on 8/21 that included flying through multiple cities.     Everyone was vaccinated on my crew of six.  Around the 27th I got sick and it started to snowball with half the other guys.   Half are positive now.   My message is to not trust anything you read or hear.  It seems like total bull####.   Second, the one guy I went with lives in Alaska.  Within two days he was undergoing a 2 hour Monoclonal Antibody 2 hr IV treatment.  My upstate NY ####### Dr who is NEVER available has a greed to do a Telemedicine meeting on Friday.  WTF.  I’ll by hospitalized while he works on his golf score.  

 

The preventative and corrective medicine on this thing is totally random.   DON’T TRUST ANYBODY.  

You mean don’t trust anything you hear because it’s much worse than we think? or don’t trust anyone as far as being vaccinated and knowing who they’ve been in contact with?

[Big Gun]

17 hours ago, Boatdrinks said:

Wow, even some people in the media decide not to get the jab! At supremely woke ESPN nonetheless. 

The Pfizer CEO declined to get his own companies shot, hmmmmmm, wonder why!

[Orlando Tim]

53 minutes ago, Big Gun said:

The Pfizer CEO declined to get his own companies shot, hmmmmmm, wonder why!

At this point he has, he was not one of the first in line because he felt he was relatively healthy and could deal with it better than most. 

[Irv]

10 hours ago, Governor said:

You mean don’t trust anything you hear because it’s much worse than we think? or don’t trust anyone as far as being vaccinated and knowing who they’ve been in contact with?

Look how many times the CDC has flip flopped on this thing.  They’re brilliant doctors but there is still an element they don’t know about.  They say if you’re vaccinated you have nothing to worry about.  Then the Delta variant comes along.  Another thing the CDC did not anticipate.  Then all the stories in the media.  The latest about vermectin overdoses overwhelming OK hospitals.  I immediately thought that had something to do with COVID.  Totally made up story.  Then their are the millions of internet experts shooting their mouths off and politicizing COVID.   Do your own homework and be wary.  You can get sick in the current environment even if vaccinated.  Who knows what’s coming next.  Mu variant?

[Beast]

How can you mandate a vaccine that doesn't prevent what it is made for?

[Governor]

1 hour ago, Irv said:

Look how many times the CDC has flip flopped on this thing.  They’re brilliant doctors but there is still an element they don’t know about.  They say if you’re vaccinated you have nothing to worry about.  Then the Delta variant comes along.  Another thing the CDC did not anticipate.  Then all the stories in the media.  The latest about vermectin overdoses overwhelming OK hospitals.  I immediately thought that had something to do with COVID.  Totally made up story.  Then their are the millions of internet experts shooting their mouths off and politicizing COVID.   Do your own homework and be wary.  You can get sick in the current environment even if vaccinated.  Who knows what’s coming next.  Mu variant?

As far as I’m concerned, the only unknowns left are the long term effects of Covid on the body. The whole approach with schools has been a travesty.

 

People saying things like “the kids are fine” never sat well with me. Sure, they aren’t dying in huge numbers but we really have no idea what Delta is doing to them.

[Orlando Tim]

53 minutes ago, Governor said:

As far as I’m concerned, the only unknowns left are the long term effects of Covid on the body. The whole approach with schools has been a travesty.

 

People saying things like “the kids are fine” never sat well with me. Sure, they aren’t dying in huge numbers but we really have no idea what Delta is doing to them.

So your argument is that to prevent a small number of long term lung infections you are ok with the high suicide rate in teens? Kids need mental health help and the adults that are making children responsible for saving the old people are causing it. 

[Governor]

29 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

So your argument is that to prevent a small number of long term lung infections you are ok with the high suicide rate in teens? Kids need mental health help and the adults that are making children responsible for saving the old people are causing it. 

There was never going to be a one size fits all fix but yeah, I’d be ok with a few suicides as opposed to wrecking millions of children’s lungs and who knows what else.

 

When your kids become adults and have serious damage to their bodies, are you going to tell them it was for their own good because you were worried about their mental health from missing a little school and soccer practice?

 

I can work on the kid’s depression and anxiety at a later time. What I CAN’T do is get him new set of lungs when he’s 40.

Edited September 6, 2021 by Governor

[Big Blitz]

43 minutes ago, Governor said:

There was never going to be a one size fits all fix but yeah, I’d be ok with a few suicides as opposed to wrecking millions of children’s lungs and who knows what else.

 

When your kids become adults and have serious damage to their bodies, are you going to tell them it was for their own good because you were worried about their mental health from missing a little school and soccer practice?

 

I can work on the kid’s depression and anxiety at a later time. What I CAN’T do is get him new set of lungs when he’s 40.

 

 

Millions of children's lungs?

 

 

Omg.  

 

Been 2 years.  Where are the mass lung failures among kids under 18?

 

Can't find em?  I can find millions of depressions.......and 1000s of those that turned suicidal.  

 

The kids will be fine!  Resilient!

[Governor]

6 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Millions of children's lungs?

 

 

Omg.  

 

Been 2 years.  Where are the mass lung failures among kids under 18?

 

Can't find em?  I can find millions of depressions.......and 1000s of those that turned suicidal.  

 

The kids will be fine!  Resilient!

It just isn’t a realistic argument to make with this many unknowns still out there. Is there any reason to believe that we won’t get some bad news about the long term effects of the virus in 2 years from now?

 

Like Irv said, the data is always changing.

 

My kid certainly wouldn’t be attending a Florida school right now, or since March 2020. 
 

I wouldn’t want to explain that poor decision to my kid. No thanks!

[Big Blitz]

4 minutes ago, Governor said:

It just isn’t a realistic argument to make with this many unknowns still out there. Is there any reason to believe that we won’t get some bad news about the long term effects of the virus in 2 years from now?

 

Like Irv said, the data is always changing.

 

My kid certainly wouldn’t be attending a Florida school right now, or since March 2020. 
 

I wouldn’t want to explain that poor decision to my kid. No thanks!

 

 

Fascinating.

 

Some feel the same way about the vaccine.  

 

 

Good luck in your bunker.  

[Governor]

11 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Fascinating.

 

Some feel the same way about the vaccine.  

 

 

Good luck in your bunker.  

If the kids are as resilient as you say, they can certainly handle a little depression and anxiety from not attending school until they can be vaccinated.

[Big Blitz]

 

[Big Blitz]

The kids will be OK everyone! 

 

 

[Orlando Tim]

3 hours ago, Governor said:

There was never going to be a one size fits all fix but yeah, I’d be ok with a few suicides as opposed to wrecking millions of children’s lungs and who knows what else.

 

When your kids become adults and have serious damage to their bodies, are you going to tell them it was for their own good because you were worried about their mental health from missing a little school and soccer practice?

 

I can work on the kid’s depression and anxiety at a later time. What I CAN’T do is get him new set of lungs when he’s 40.

Millions of kids lungs- you are either lying or stupid. There is nothing to indicate that for 99.99% of kids that they will have any long term damage, most kids have minor issues with the initial infection. Secondly you think mental issues are easier to fix than physical? I will state with almost certainty you have never dealt with the mentally ill before.

[Orlando Tim]

2 hours ago, Governor said:

It just isn’t a realistic argument to make with this many unknowns still out there. Is there any reason to believe that we won’t get some bad news about the long term effects of the virus in 2 years from now?

 

Like Irv said, the data is always changing.

 

My kid certainly wouldn’t be attending a Florida school right now, or since March 2020. 
 

I wouldn’t want to explain that poor decision to my kid. No thanks!

With your paranoia, and yes that is the level you are at, it is a good thing you don't have kids. My son goes to a 4000 student school, with zero hospitalizations from COVID-19 for students. They had two suicides last year, a kid die from an auto accident but not even a hospital from Covid.  2.7 million students across the state and our peak number is 224 kids hospitalized in a two week period. 

[TSOL]

Alot of generations of youth have faced way worse hardship than this. MOST generations have faced hardship at least as bad as this. 

 

I swear to god we are so pussified in this country these days 

[Big Blitz]

 

Lol the mask theater........

 

 

 

Yea.....

 

 

 

[OrangeBills]

4 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Fascinating.

 

Some feel the same way about the vaccine.  

 

 

Good luck in your bunker.  

 

They have successfully ruined people's minds.

3 hours ago, Governor said:

If the kids are as resilient as you say, they can certainly handle a little depression and anxiety from not attending school until they can be vaccinated.

 

The worst.  I'm sorry but I can't stand these people.  I don't know a single person affected by this virus directly, lucky me I guess....but I know two HS juniors who've committed suicide.  

 

Just stop talking

[dpberr]

4 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

Everything happening in Australia is by design. They'd love to try it here.

 

The population is entirely disarmed and protests nicely (during daylight, always in the town square) and the authority can ratchet up without a pause of hesitation.

[Governor]

1 hour ago, OrangeBills said:

 

They have successfully ruined people's minds.

 

The worst.  I'm sorry but I can't stand these people.  I don't know a single person affected by this virus directly, lucky me I guess....but I know two HS juniors who've committed suicide.  

 

Just stop talking

 

1 hour ago, OrangeBills said:

 

They have successfully ruined people's minds.

 

The worst.  I'm sorry but I can't stand these people.  I don't know a single person affected by this virus directly, lucky me I guess....but I know two HS juniors who've committed suicide.  

 

Just stop talking

And what we don’t know is the long term damage we’re doing to kids when we send them to total hick schools in a place like Florida.

 

Is that a conversation you want to have with your kid? 

[Governor]

2 hours ago, TSOL said:

Alot of generations of youth have faced way worse hardship than this. MOST generations have faced hardship at least as bad as this. 

 

I swear to god we are so pussified in this country these days 

The only ones pussifying the situation are those that pretend we should care more about depression than internal organs being destroyed.

[Governor]

3 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

With your paranoia, and yes that is the level you are at, it is a good thing you don't have kids. My son goes to a 4000 student school, with zero hospitalizations from COVID-19 for students. They had two suicides last year, a kid die from an auto accident but not even a hospital from Covid.  2.7 million students across the state and our peak number is 224 kids hospitalized in a two week period. 

What we established very early on is that parents don’t want to take any responsibility and be parents to their children. 
 

That apparently wasn’t part of the deal. Parents need to work, therefore their kids need to be pawned off on the state, and that can’t be disrupted because parents don’t want the kids at home.

 

So, let’s think of a million excuses why the kids are “safest” in school than at home during a pandemic.

 

I get it perfectly.

 

So, Irv is 100 perfect correct. The CDC screwed up. The first MAJOR screwup is when they lied to parents and said the safest place for a kid to be was in school during a pandemic.

 

No, the “safest” place for a kid to be is at home with their family, home schooling, playing in the woods with their sister and father, learning how to fish, setting up a tent, handing his father wrenches in the garage, etc.

 

 

Edited September 7, 2021 by Governor

[Doc Brown]

13 hours ago, Big Gun said:

The Pfizer CEO declined to get his own companies shot, hmmmmmm, wonder why!

Link?

3 hours ago, TSOL said:

Alot of generations of youth have faced way worse hardship than this. MOST generations have faced hardship at least as bad as this. 

 

I swear to god we are so pussified in this country these days 

Masks can get itchy.  

[Orlando Tim]

23 minutes ago, Governor said:

What we established very early on is that parents don’t want to take any responsibility and be parents to their children. 
 

That apparently wasn’t part of the deal. Parents need to work, therefore their kids need to be pawned off on the state, and that can’t be disrupted because parents don’t want the kids at home.

 

So, let’s think of a million excuses why the kids are “safest” in school than at home during a pandemic.

 

I get it perfectly.

Parents taking responsibility for their kids not committing suicide is much more important than keeping  them from a a virus that has 99.99% full recovery. You make it clear often that you have no idea what it means to help children or mentally ill people.

[Doc Brown]

2 hours ago, OrangeBills said:

The worst.  I'm sorry but I can't stand these people.  I don't know a single person affected by this virus directly, lucky me I guess....but I know two HS juniors who've committed suicide.  

 

Just stop talking

It's tragic but anecdotal.  Deaths by suicide last year dropped 5.6% compared to 2019 and was the lowest since 2015.

[Big Blitz]

41 minutes ago, Governor said:

What we established very early on is that parents don’t want to take any responsibility and be parents to their children. 
 

That apparently wasn’t part of the deal. Parents need to work, therefore their kids need to be pawned off on the state, and that can’t be disrupted because parents don’t want the kids at home.

 

So, let’s think of a million excuses why the kids are “safest” in school than at home during a pandemic.

 

I get it perfectly.

 

So, Irv is 100 perfect correct. The CDC screwed up. The first MAJOR screwup is when they lied to parents and said the safest place for a kid to be was in school during a pandemic.

 

No, the “safest” place for a kid to be is at home with their family, home schooling, playing in the woods with their sister and father, learning how to fish, setting up a tent, handing his father wrenches in the garage, etc.

 

 

 

 

Some of us mistakenly follow the "news" for information about Covid.  

 

Others follow data and the virus:

 

 

"In the U.K., elementary school-age children and their teachers have been going maskless in classrooms for months, including through a wave of delta infections in the spring and summer."

 

There are mask requirements for middle and high school-age students, but as U.K. children return to class this month, the education minister is pledging to lift those rules soon.

Instead of an emphasis on masks, the country has relied on rapid testing and quarantining. The government’s scientific advisers argue it’s worked.

 

https://www.10news.com/news/in-depth/in-depth-young-kids-in-the-u-k-dont-wear-masks-at-school

 

Edited September 7, 2021 by Big Blitz