TSW Mock Draft 2.0 - Complete!!

[Virgil]

2 minutes ago, Logic said:

 

Great pick for the Not-Redskins. A lot to give up, but well worth it if Lance turns out to be a franchise guy.

 

Lance

Gibson

McLaurin

Samuel

 

A nice offensive core to pair with a fast rising defensive unit.

 

When I put my Snyder hat on, he's not the guy who's going to let anything get in the way of getting his guy.  There was just too much risk in someone else trading up ahead of us.  We ultimately lose a 2nd and next years first, the other rounds are swaps.  If that's the price for someone who could be the guy, I'll take it

[Doc Brown]

10 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

I also Love the fact is shuts NE out of an early QB. Keep them in QB hell for the next 2 decades. 

Watson will be cleared and ready to go by week 7 at the latest.  Cam should be able to fill in until then.

Edited April 12, 2021 by Doc Brown

[MAJBobby]

Just now, Doc Brown said:

Watson will be cleared and ready to go by week 7 at the latest.  Cam should be able to fill in by then.

For who the Texas Penal League?  

[H2o]

2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

For who the Texas Penal League?  

He'll be suiting up for The Mean Machine

[Doc Brown]

1 minute ago, MAJBobby said:

For who the Texas Penal League?  

Worse.  The Patriots.

[MAJBobby]

3 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Worse.  The Patriots.

I don’t think Kraft touches him with a 10 foot pool after the Aaron Hernandez stuff. But then again might be kindred spirits with the massage parlor stuff. 

[MAJBobby]

i have to admit if the draft fell like this so far Bills would have to be loving it. 5 QBs taken all before 10. 
 

couple Reasons 

 

1.  Pushing the 1st round graded talent lower 

 

2.  If you player is not there at 30. Can move it and your 5th year option to a QB needy team that missed in a trade down. 
 

3.  The Sale of Mitch Trubisky also can get inflated and happen earlier with QB needy teams missing. 
 

 

[Doc Brown]

Just now, MAJBobby said:

I don’t think Kraft touches him with a 10 foot pool after the Aaron Hernandez stuff. But then again might be kindred spirits with the massage parlor stuff. 

I think the Bears, Broncos, Patriots, and Eagles would be in a bidding war if he settles with Buzbee (which he's reportedly now trying to do after initially refusing).  The original price for him will go down because of the extra risk involved and the significant suspension expected.

[Virgil]

12 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

i have to admit if the draft fell like this so far Bills would have to be loving it. 5 QBs taken all before 10. 
 

couple Reasons 

 

1.  Pushing the 1st round graded talent lower 

 

2.  If you player is not there at 30. Can move it and your 5th year option to a QB needy team that missed in a trade down. 
 

3.  The Sale of Mitch Trubisky also can get inflated and happen earlier with QB needy teams missing. 
 

 

For me, I think the same players will be gone before 30, just in a different order.  

[whatdrought]

47 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Trade Alert

 

 

Carolina gets:

2021

1st (19 overall) - 875 pts

2nd (51 overall) - 390 pts

3rd (82 overall) - 180 pts

2022 1st round pick - 390 pts

Total Value - 1835

 

Washington gets:

2021

1st (8 overall) - 1400 pts

3rd (73 overall) - 225 pts

Total Value 1625

 

With the 8th overall pick, the Washington Football Team selects Trey Lance, QB, North Dakota State

 

GM:  With only one premiere quarterback left, Washington was happy to get one of their top two guys with the Broncos, Falcons and Patriots coming up.  We were worried the Panthers would take Lance, but they went with our offer instead.  While it's a lot to give up, we aren't thrilled with next years draft class and happy to have Fitzmagic here to help guide the young rookie his first year.  Lance has all the tools you look for in a NFL quarterback and were happy to not give up as much as we offered to get into the top 5.  Wins all around.

 

The Falcons @GunnerBill are on the clock

That’s a good get for the Skins. I like Lance in a place he can sit and learn, and Scott Turner seems to be trending up as a play caller. Good young core on offense as well.

[NewEra]

52 minutes ago, Virgil said:

 

When I put my Snyder hat on, he's not the guy who's going to let anything get in the way of getting his guy.  There was just too much risk in someone else trading up ahead of us.  We ultimately lose a 2nd and next years first, the other rounds are swaps.  If that's the price for someone who could be the guy, I'll take it

Great trade.  They should pull the trigger irl if Lance is there

[Logic]

Seems like Gunner might be off for the night and picking in the morning.

I pick after him. Being that I'm on pacific time, the draft "re-starts" at 5am my time, so I might not be making my pick too immediately once I'm on the clock. I promise I won't completely Alphadawg everyone, though. 

[Virgil]

36 minutes ago, Logic said:

Seems like Gunner might be off for the night and picking in the morning.

I pick after him. Being that I'm on pacific time, the draft "re-starts" at 5am my time, so I might not be making my pick too immediately once I'm on the clock. I promise I won't completely Alphadawg everyone, though. 

If you don’t plan on trading out, feel free to PM me your top 2 picks. If not, do your thing in the morning.  No worries 

[Draconator]

4 hours ago, Virgil said:

Yeah, I’m going to remove the 3rd next year.  17% is a bit much.  I wasn’t able to do the math at the time.  

I was actually paranoid that I wouldn't have enough points for the trade, so I over thunk it. 

5 hours ago, NewEra said:

You traded them last years drafts picks?  How does that work? 😂

Kliff has a time machine. It came with his posh estate in Arizona.

5 hours ago, CNYfan said:

I think this is a bad trade for AZ.  Gave up way too much with Darrisaw and Slater there closer to their pick.  And then 3 other premium players (Draft Selections), it doesn't balance out.    Good deal for Bengals

We wanted the best available, that was Sewell. Arizona sees him having an Anthony Munoz type of impact. (High expectations I know)

Edited April 12, 2021 by Draconator

[GunnerBill]

With the 9th pick, the Atlanta Falcons select Patrick Surtain II, Cornerback, Alabama. 

 

The Dallas Cowboys @Logic are on the clock. 

 

The Falcons' needs are all on defense. Grady Jarrett and Deion Jones are the only two players they have above replacement level on that side of the ball. Their corner play was particularly awful in 2020 and so in comes Patrick Surtain II - the best corner in the class and a top 5 talent getting pushed down by all these Quarterbacks and pass catchers. I was willing to take him at #4 but getting him and additional picks will kick start the rebuild.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

8 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

Worse.  The Patriots.

Alright...hand over a conditional draft pick for that insult, mister...🤨

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😁

[whatdrought]

4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

With the 9th pick, the Atlanta Falcons select Patrick Surtain II, Cornerback, Alabama. 

 

The Dallas Cowboys @Logic are on the clock. 

 

The Falcons' needs are all on defense. Grady Jarrett and Deion Jones are the only two players they have above replacement level on that side of the ball. Their corner play was particularly awful in 2020 and so in comes Patrick Surtain II - the best corner in the class and a top 5 talent getting pushed down by all these Quarterbacks and pass catchers. I was willing to take him at #4 but getting him and additional picks will kick start the rebuild.

Getting Surtain and a couple extra picks is sweet for the falcons. 

[TPS]

While we're waiting for Logic to rise from his slumber, the Giants will entertain offers to move back, but it would take a heck of an offer if you're past #20.

[ExWNYer]

15 hours ago, whatdrought said:

With the 4th Pick in the 2021 NFL Draft, the Denver Broncos select, Justin Fields, QB, Ohio State University. 

 

 

The Broncos are very happy to add a multifaceted playmaking weapon to what we know to be a top 10 roster in the NFL. Justin adds a threat of running the ball that will open up things for our incredible playmakers, and our suffocating defense will benefit from the offense taking a step forward and forcing teams to play from behind. 

 

I cordially invite NFL defenses to come ready to face: 

 

- Justin Fields

- Melvin Ingram

- Courtland Sutton

- Tim Patrick

- Jerry Jeudy

- KJ Hamler

- Noah Fant

- Albert Okwuegbunam

 

(Don't ask me about Phillip Lindsey, I'm still pissed that John got liquored up and cut him for no reason)

 

 

In other Broncos news, we have a young QB with a lot of upside that is available if anyone is interested. He's a sure Lock to improve your team......

 

The Bengals and @Just Joshin' are on the clock. 

 

 

Seems unlikely that he'll be scaring anyone (except Bronco fans), if they sign him and then move him to the offensive side of the ball. 😉 And, honestly, at this point in his career, Melvin Gordon isn't scaring many defenses either. That, said, I know what you were get at...Denver is building what looks to be a scary good offense at the skill positions. 

[whatdrought]

47 minutes ago, ExWNYer said:

 

Seems unlikely that he'll be scaring anyone (except Bronco fans), if they sign him and then move him to the offensive side of the ball. 😉 And, honestly, at this point in his career, Melvin Gordon isn't scaring many defenses either. That, said, I know what you were get at...Denver is building what looks to be a scary good offense at the skill positions. 

You're gonna tackle Melvin Ingram running from the H-Back position? Good luck. Your funeral. 

[Draconator]

21 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

You're gonna tackle Melvin Ingram running from the H-Back position? Good luck. Your funeral. 

I don't know. Me dressing in shiny clothes, a funny hat, and holding a red cape MIGHT do the trick...

[Logic]

With the 10th pick in the TSW Mock Draft, The Dallas Cowboys select Jaycee Horn, CB, South Carolina

 

The Cowboys offense should be good enough to score 30 points a game, but our defense can't stop a nosebleed. Trevon Diggs is established as CB2, but we need an alpha dog in the room. Someone who can follow the opposition's #1 receiver all over the field and lock him down. Horn is that guy. We feel Jaycee is a perfect physical and skillset match for the Cover 3 defense that new defensive coordinator Dan Quinn likes to run. As an added bonus, Quinn is close friends with Horn's college coach, Will Muschamp, and was able to get all the information he needed as to Horn's disposition and intangibles. We feel this is a slam dunk pick of value meeting need.

(Side note: There's a lot of smoke lately to the Cowboys liking Horn. It's to the point where Cowboys beat writers can't guarantee that the Boys wouldn't pick Horn over Surtain II if both were available).

@TPS and the New York football Giants are now on the clock.

[GunnerBill]

8 minutes ago, Logic said:

(Side note: There's a lot of smoke lately to the Cowboys liking Horn. It's to the point where Cowboys beat writers can't guarantee that the Boys wouldn't pick Horn over Surtain II if both were available).
 

 

I think Horn is their guy. He is like the cornerback Dan Quinn would build in a laboratory for his scheme. That said Chaisson was their guy last year, pretty much until they went on the clock and then they picked CeeDee Lamb

[Logic]

7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I think Horn is their guy. He is like the cornerback Dan Quinn would build in a laboratory for his scheme. That said Chaisson was their guy last year, pretty much until they went on the clock and then they picked CeeDee Lamb

Yeah. There are several articles from Cowboys writers imploring the Cowboys to resist temptation if an exciting offensive player is on the board (Cowboys fans have this pipe dream that Pitts will fall to them, for some reason) and select a cornerback no matter what. I guess that's what happens when Jerry "I love me some gloryhole!" Jones is making your picks 🙄

[Just Joshin']

8 minutes ago, Logic said:

Yeah. There are several articles from Cowboys writers imploring the Cowboys to resist temptation if an exciting offensive player is on the board (Cowboys fans have this pipe dream that Pitts will fall to them, for some reason) and select a cornerback no matter what. I guess that's what happens when Jerry "I love me some gloryhole!" Jones is making your picks 🙄

There are some on this site that think he will fall to 10 and the Bills will move up to 10 to take him.  Double fail.

[mannc]

22 minutes ago, Logic said:

Yeah. There are several articles from Cowboys writers imploring the Cowboys to resist temptation if an exciting offensive player is on the board (Cowboys fans have this pipe dream that Pitts will fall to them, for some reason) and select a cornerback no matter what. I guess that's what happens when Jerry "I love me some gloryhole!" Jones is making your picks 🙄

In fairness, CeeDee Lamb was hardly a bad pick.  

[Logic]

9 minutes ago, mannc said:

In fairness, CeeDee Lamb was hardly a bad pick.  

I agree. CeeDee Lamb was a good pick and I would have had a hard time turning him down, too.

On the other hand, the Cowboys defense was abysmal, and at some point they're going to need to buckle down and add to their defense, even if it means passing on exciting offensive players. You can have all the WR1s you want, but if the opposition can score at will, well...

 

[glazeduck]

29 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said:

There are some on this site that think he will fall to 10 and the Bills will move up to 10 to take him.  Double fail.

Let's calm down on this... I haven't seen anybody say they think he'd fall to 10. At its most extreme all I've ever seen (and said) is along the lines of "it's potentially possible" or "not outside the realm of possibility". None of that is overstated -- you've got 5 QBs, a franchise LT (possibly 2) and a WR who are without question going in the top 10. In addition to that, each of the teams picking 6-10 -- Denver, Detroit, Carolina, Miami, and Dallas -- either a) have numerous needs, b) intrenched/young/pass-catching TEs, c) shown a disinterest in throwing to the TE in general, or d) some combination of those. 3 (arguably 4, but I'll digress on that one) of them need QBs to boot. The point being, it's not hard to rationalize how the draft order might be setup for Pitts to slide a bit.

 

Now, the draft is never rational, especially when it comes to unicorn players like Pitts, so yes, it's very unlikely that he'd fall to 10. And all of the above does not account for a team like Philly or LAC trading up for him. But can I see, maybe a 1% chance that teams opt to fill needs instead of take luxury pick like Pitts? Pretty easily, yes.

[Watkins101]

The Eagles are accepting offers for the 12th pick.

[section122]

@Virgil

 

@TPS and I have made a trade.  I pm'ed you for final approval.

[NewEra]

2 minutes ago, section122 said:

@Virgil

 

@TPS and I have made a trade.  I pm'ed you for final approval.

There you go!  Get Lamar a WR!

[section122]

We have a trade!

 

Giants are trading picks 11 and 76 to the Baltimore Ravens for Orlando Brown Jr, pick 27, and 58.

 

With the 11th pick, the Bualtimore Ravens select DeVonta Smith, WR, Alabama.  The Eagles @Watkins101 are on the clock

 

WR is a huge need and although Smith is slight is stature he is huge on production.  Instead of waxing poetic, I'll let the pros do it...

 

https://nflmocks.com/2020/11/13/2021-nfl-draft-devonta-smith-perfect-fit-baltimore-ravens/

 

In particular, Alabama wide receiver DeVonta Smith feels like a great fit for this team. The Ravens have built their offense around their rushing attack and deep passing game. While this has led to some success, they currently lack receivers who can make an impact in the short to intermediate range. Smith can make plays as a deep receiver, but he is more of a possession receiver who is going to do most of his damage as a reliable intermediate target.

 

Smith is a tremendous route-runner who does a fantastic job of simply finding space in the defense. He can shake man coverage with ease and always seems to sit in the soft spots of the zone. Smith is a quick and explosive runner who is also an impact player with the ball in his hands. Smith can take a short pass and take it to the house from nearly anywhere on the field.

 

The Baltimore Ravens currently lack a guy who can find a way to get open against any coverage on a consistent basis. On key third downs, they could certainly use a guy like Smith who will simply get open and make a play for their quarterback.

Thank you to everyone I bombarded with trade requests but I wanted 1 of the top 3 guys and know the Eagles will be snatching one up.

[whatdrought]

What a wonderful WR to get 3 targets a game with 1 catch. I’m delighted. 

[Virgil]

11 picks in and we have 5 trades.  This is gonna be a long one 😋

9 minutes ago, section122 said:

We have a trade!

 

Giants are trading picks 11 and 76 to the Baltimore Ravens for Orlando Brown Jr, pick 27, and 58.

 

With the 11th pick, the Bualtimore Ravens select DeVonta Smith, WR, Alabama.  The Eagles @Watkins101 are on the clock

 

WR is a huge need and although Smith is slight is stature he is huge on production.  Instead of waxing poetic, I'll let the pros do it...

 

https://nflmocks.com/2020/11/13/2021-nfl-draft-devonta-smith-perfect-fit-baltimore-ravens/

 

In particular, Alabama wide receiver DeVonta Smith feels like a great fit for this team. The Ravens have built their offense around their rushing attack and deep passing game. While this has led to some success, they currently lack receivers who can make an impact in the short to intermediate range. Smith can make plays as a deep receiver, but he is more of a possession receiver who is going to do most of his damage as a reliable intermediate target.

 

Smith is a tremendous route-runner who does a fantastic job of simply finding space in the defense. He can shake man coverage with ease and always seems to sit in the soft spots of the zone. Smith is a quick and explosive runner who is also an impact player with the ball in his hands. Smith can take a short pass and take it to the house from nearly anywhere on the field.

 

The Baltimore Ravens currently lack a guy who can find a way to get open against any coverage on a consistent basis. On key third downs, they could certainly use a guy like Smith who will simply get open and make a play for their quarterback.

Thank you to everyone I bombarded with trade requests but I wanted 1 of the top 3 guys and know the Eagles will be snatching one up.

But can he run block?

[BarleyNY]

7 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

What a wonderful WR to get 3 targets a game with 1 catch. I’m delighted. 

While I don’t disagree, it’s actually very smart in that the Ravens can know with near certainty what they have in Lamar before they hand him a huge contract.  I think we probably all know now, but it would really remove any question in the matter. 

[Gugny]

3 minutes ago, Virgil said:

😋

 

 

Sup, Virg?

[whatdrought]

3 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

While I don’t disagree, it’s actually very smart in that the Ravens can know with near certainty what they have in Lamar before they hand him a huge contract.  I think we probably all know now, but it would really remove any question in the matter. 

They’ll trade up our ETN. They already know. 😛

[Virgil]

3 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

Sup, Virg?

Sup Gug.  Did my tongue sticking out alert you to my post?

[ExWNYer]

2 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

They’ll trade up our ETN. They already know. 😛

 

Good! Get him off the board before #30.

[Watkins101]

The Eagles trade pick 12 for the Patriots 15, 2nd rounder, and a 3rd round swap. The Patriots @Doc Brown are on the clock