Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 I hadn't know before that Kurt Warner had a regular Youtube series breaking down QB play. For those who like the X's and the O's give it a watch Kurt Warner was an Allen doubter. Sounds like he's come around. 6 2 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: I hadn't know before that Kurt Warner had a regular Youtube series breaking down QB play. For those who like the X's and the O's give it a watch Kurt Warner was an Allen doubter. Sounds like he's come around. Funny you posted this, I saw it yesterday, almost turned it off because I wasn't sure it was Kurt at first. He sounded quiet and low. But, it is for sure and I loved his analysis. He points out how good Josh is at seeing the blitz and then throwing to an area of the field once he sees the coverage allows it. Kurt was definitely impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Broncos were a pretty weak, beat up team when the Bills played them....especially on defense. I wouldn't put a lot of stock in analytics of that game. Now Josh's game winning (shb) drive against a solid Az. secondary, now that was impressive. Just sayin' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 22, 2021 Author Share Posted March 22, 2021 2 hours ago, ProcessTruster said: Broncos were a pretty weak, beat up team when the Bills played them....especially on defense. I wouldn't put a lot of stock in analytics of that game. Now Josh's game winning (shb) drive against a solid Az. secondary, now that was impressive. Just sayin' I don't think the point is to charactarize it as "impressive" or not, the point is to share knowledge of how Josh is reading the field and making decisions. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) This breakdown is just another example of how special Josh really is imo. Some of these throws he makes with ease are throws only a couple other people in this league can make. That seam route to Kumerow? The only other guys who have the arm to make that throw are Rodgers and Mahomes. The flat-footed, angled pass to Beasley in the flat? Only a couple other guys in this league. The arm strength Josh has is unbelievable and it allows him to do the things we saw this past season. The improvement in his accuracy makes him a threat no matter how small the window seems to be. The REALLY scary thing in all of this for the rest of the NFL? Josh is still growing. Having him now makes the 20 years we were looking for a Franchise QB all seem worth it. Edited March 22, 2021 by H2o 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 I never fully appreciated how great a throw the pass to Knox was until this video. The pressure in Allen's face was insane and to complete that kind of deep throw with touch reminded me of Mahomes. Thanks for posting this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 I think it will be interesting to see if Josh gets any better then last year. Even something as simple as better presnap faster reads on defense could snap Josh into top 2 QB.. We will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 I remember rolling my eyes so hard I nearly sprained them when Warner said he believed that because Allen was so tall, his "levers were too long" for him to ever be able to consistently display good mechanics and be an accurate quarterback. 🙄 Glad to see that he's come around. Thanks for the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 If the dial reads 'R0LEX' instead of 'ROLEX', it's probably not a good watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) Good stuff, thanks for posting. QuarterbackWonderlic ScoreCollege Josh Allen 37 Wyoming Josh Rosen 29 UCLA Sam Darnold 28 USC Baker Mayfield 25 Oklahoma Lamar Jackson 13 Louisville Tony Romo, Andrew Luck also had a 37 score. Brady had a 33. Peyton Manning had a 28. Aaron Rodgers had a 35. Cam Newton 21. Vince Young 6. https://wonderlictestpractice.com/josh-allen-wonderlic-score/#:~:text=The NFL Scouting Combine is,a 37 on the test. Edited March 22, 2021 by Nihilarian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Would love to see Josh doing these videos during off season. DCs would see them and have a bit of panic attack for it would be difficult to find way to defend against him. As someone who used to do teaching/training it also reinforces knowledge with instructor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Warner took some issue to the throw Josh made without resetting his feet. Josh does it often and makes nice throws that way. The release is quicker (no readjustment of his feet) and the open stance, sidearm delivery puts the ball around the oncoming pass rusher with little chance for them to bat the ball. It's the kind of throw a 2nd baseman often makes to start a double play. The quicker release, arm whip throw can still be made accurately. I think that nasty throw Josh made to John Brown at the goal line vs. the LV Raiders (should have been ruled a TD) was made that way. John Brown was running to the sideline and out of time and the throw had to get there quick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Was great to watch that and it helps to show why this is a QB driven league. To think that Josh has not hit his ceiling yet is just astounding. Let’s hope the guys around him continue to build and help him out. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjnick Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Thank you for posting. Great video 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasBillsFan1 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 I like Kurt's analysis as well as Baldy's. Baldy has a slight edge IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 1 hour ago, JESSEFEFFER said: Warner took some issue to the throw Josh made without resetting his feet. Josh does it often and makes nice throws that way. The release is quicker (no readjustment of his feet) and the open stance, sidearm delivery puts the ball around the oncoming pass rusher with little chance for them to bat the ball. It's the kind of throw a 2nd baseman often makes to start a double play. The quicker release, arm whip throw can still be made accurately. I think that nasty throw Josh made to John Brown at the goal line vs. the LV Raiders (should have been ruled a TD) was made that way. John Brown was running to the sideline and out of time and the throw had to get there quick. One of the absolute worst calls of the season by the refs. It was 100% without a shadow of a doubt a TD. How that was not in the refs eyes is as puzzling to me as the made FG by Bass in week 1 they said was no good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
From Roc to Ky bills fan Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Thank you for sharing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 6 hours ago, ProcessTruster said: Broncos were a pretty weak, beat up team when the Bills played them....especially on defense. I wouldn't put a lot of stock in analytics of that game. Now Josh's game winning (shb) drive against a solid Az. secondary, now that was impressive. Just sayin' 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: One of the absolute worst calls of the season by the refs. It was 100% without a shadow of a doubt a TD. How that was not in the refs eyes is as puzzling to me as the made FG by Bass in week 1 they said was no good. And the fumble against the Colts, that they reviewed and still got it wrong. But this video is great. Thankfully Kurt Warner is coming around on JA because I've always respected his analysis. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Watched it last night, good to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 11 hours ago, ProcessTruster said: Broncos were a pretty weak, beat up team when the Bills played them....especially on defense. I wouldn't put a lot of stock in analytics of that game. Now Josh's game winning (shb) drive against a solid Az. secondary, now that was impressive. Just sayin' It's very possible this is true. I never followed them or what was happening to them on the field but I do remember early on in the season (late Oct/early Nov) they were still top 10 in DVOA on defense and I believe were one of the top 3 red zone units in the league. Splitting hairs either way as @Hapless Bills Fan mentioned. It's more about what Allen was doing than what Denver was doing or had to offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 15 hours ago, The Wiz said: It's very possible this is true. I never followed them or what was happening to them on the field but I do remember early on in the season (late Oct/early Nov) they were still top 10 in DVOA on defense and I believe were one of the top 3 red zone units in the league. Splitting hairs either way as @Hapless Bills Fan mentioned. It's more about what Allen was doing than what Denver was doing or had to offer. Was a good example of what a QB can see pre-snap to post-snap. Knowing where zones have been vacated and targetting those areas, manipulating safeties to create space etc. It's stuff good QBs do beyond just having a rocket arm and plus athleticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Where is this watch you found ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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