Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, gobills404 said: I think we'll find that Milano's cap hit this year is ~= Butler's give-back plus cutting Jefferson. 2 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: If Sal is correct on the Milano numbers, we should still have about 14 million. Time for a Hughes/Addison restructure? If I were guessing: Beane has some DL moves in mind. If he can get what he wants, Addison might meet the Turk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 3 hours ago, njbuff said: I think they cut Addison. Either that or he takes a pay cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 3 hours ago, Jerboski said: Milano was not going to get more than David... David does everything better that Milano excels at and just came off a dominating playoff performance where he killed the chiefs screen game and checked Kelce I see your point but David was also going to get big bucks from the browns but he chose to stay with the champs Whatever you say man. David took less to stay in tampa. If Milano would’ve hit the open market, the Jets and browns were going to bid each other up and he likely would’ve gotten over 13M a year. You can think whatever you want..... but that doesn’t mean you’re right. you basically admitted to that with your bolded. David took less to stay in tampa. If Milano didn’t take less.....he would’ve gotten more than david Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 15 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I might be coming late to the party, but from what Sal Capaccio tweeted Milano's salary is $5.3M this year, plus amortized signing bonus $7M/4. This means cap hit of $7.05M + "likely to be earned" bonuses. At a guess, total cap hit if all per-game and workout bonuses earned somewhere under $8M this year. There's a gap of $5.4M between the sum of the signing bonuses and yearly salaries Capaccio lists, and the $44M value cited. Sal mentions "roster, workout, playing time, and pro-bowl bonuses". i don’t think they are planning on saving money this year by him not making it to 12 games. He’s no more likely to miss that many games this year than any of the remaining 3 years after this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 One day I don’t pay attention to Bills news and this pops up... woo hoo!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbs Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: i don’t think they are planning on saving money this year by him not making it to 12 games. He’s no more likely to miss that many games this year than any of the remaining 3 years after this That has nothing to do with anything. He is set to earn 7m regardless. If his playing time bonus is over 11 games, then it will be hit against next years cap because he didn't do that last year so it's "unlikely to be earned." Had he played all 16 last year, they would have to pay out* the bonus now because "likely to be earned" is leveled against the current cap. Everyone expects him to finish the season. It has nothing to do with expecting him to play fewer games to save money. * edit: they would have to count it against the cap now, not pay it out. https://frontofficenfl.com/2020/05/25/2020-nfl-cba-explained-contract-incentives-ltbe-nltbe/ Edited March 12, 2021 by mbs add definitions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 4 hours ago, Jauronimo said: Maybe he realizes hes in an ideal situation playing in McD's defense. A lot of these free agents sign big deals, get put in bad positions and wind up getting axed after under performing. Or get the snot beat out of them playing that defense./injuries poor stats and sad face emojis Like playing a 3 tech at a 1 tech. just sucks, even if you are 330 lbs he is a perfect fit in Bills defense. and Edmunds + Milano are a plus plus never ever saw this coming ! Super delighted Go Bills ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Very conflicted on this. Dude is an absolute baller and this is our super bowl window. But at the same time, he struggles to stay healthy, OLB is one of the “easier” positions to replace, and it will cost us someone at a position I think is more important (OT, pass rusher, or Te). can’t be mad keeping a good player and good for Matt. He is a legit playmaker. But if he left and they drafted someone like Zaven Collins and used the money elsewhere, could that be have been better? 😬 it will be interesting to see what they do next. No guarantees Zaven Collins or someone like him would be available when the Bills pick or that they will be good. We know Milano can play. And the contract was good value too. Edited March 12, 2021 by purple haze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 47 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: It also seems the Bills can get out of it after 2 years if it goes south... always pull off these smart contracts. Does Beane take them out drinking and offer them a pen in between shots ? pretty impressive FO work for sure how they have done on most contracts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Reasons I am concerned about this- Milano didn’t seem to have a great year. Matt was hurt a good bit of the season with two different injuries. Both make me wonder about his body. Hammy and pec concern me. I also wonder how much will McD and Beane pay Edmunds. I have never been a huge fan of paying LB’s, but it does appear in McD’s D they are more valued. I wonder if McD gets more input on D. I look at the way the O was built and it’s much different than the D. The main reason I am ok with it- Beane. I trust him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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appoo Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Those are very team friendly numbers for the start. You could see a cap hit next season that ranges from 5M to 11M, which is really good for the Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 3 hours ago, In Summary said: I like that we retained Milano. Now I'm hoping the Bills develop competitive LB depth such that LB3 isn't a huge talent drop-off. Klein can do some nice things, but he's not the LB3 with decent coverage ability we need. Not sure it matters much. The Bills rarely use 3 LBs on the field at one time. Predominantly they play a 4-2-5 - with one of the DBs being a bigger guy to act as a LB. They need to get better at their big safety role with a guy that can really cover, but still hit and support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Aussie Joe Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Just now, BillsMafi$ said: Can you please post the link to the tweet next time ? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Just now, ScottLaw said: Not sure they will pay Edmunds after this... I think they do, not that I like potentially tying up $25+ mil in two LB’s. I wonder how much McD says to Beane “I can win with these guys on D”? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 3 hours ago, Jerboski said: I agree it isn’t going to solve the issue so that’s why I question spending 11M a year on a guy who doesn’t impact those issues when this free agency class has a lot of pass rushers and possible OL who could help Milano is a good dude and good player but again committing 11M a year to a player not playing a high value position can be questioned That's interesting. Thanks for responding. Obviously, I don't know what the Bills are thinking, but I have a theory. I think building a team from year to year, and it is different from year to year, is a challenge. You have perceived needs, and you have opportunities to fill those needs. You don't build to a particular visions; you have to adjust the vision as things develop. The Bills know they need some work on the defensive line. They thought Watt could transform the line in a way that fit their vision, and they thought if they had a transformative player on the D line, then they could find solutions at linebacker. When Watt didn't come to Buffalo, the vision had to change. They apparently don't think there's another transformative D lineman out there, I guess. So the next vision is to be outstanding at linebacker and find the right role players on the D line. As I said, I don't know any of that, but it's a good bet that if Watt had signed, Milano was gone, and McDermott would have been looking for a different solution at linebacker. I don't know the free agent D line talent at all, but I think that no one out there is a high probability transformative player except Watt. Watt was the kind of option you might have wanted the Bills to spend on. The Bills apparently don't think there's another similar option out there. Once they lost Watt, they had to pursue a different vision. That means the Bills likely will do what they did last year - shop for a bunch of different linemen and try to put together an effective line. Didn't work last year, but in the Bills' defense, losing Star left them with a hole they hadn't planned on. We don't know what they think they can get from Epenesa in year 2. We don't know what they think they can get from Oliver in year 3. They Bills may be looking for pieces that fit with them. Watt was going to cause some dominoes to fall, like Milano, maybe Hughes. Maybe without Watt, Hughes is secure. The point is, building a team is a constant work in progress, and it's fluid and changing. It seems that Watt was option A, MIlano was option B. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Reasons I am concerned about this- Milano didn’t seem to have a great year. Matt was hurt a good bit of the season with two different injuries. Both make me wonder about his body. Hammy and pec concern me. I also wonder how much will McD and Beane pay Edmunds. I have never been a huge fan of paying LB’s, but it does appear in McD’s D they are more valued. I wonder if McD gets more input on D. I look at the way the O was built and it’s much different than the D. The main reason I am ok with it- Beane. I trust him. yet you listed reasons you actually dont Trust him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: You can win without them too....so long as Allen is playing at the level he played last year. Edmunds isn’t worth that kind of money. Not yet at least. Have to agree here. Milano has been more of a need on the field than Edmunds has been. He's good at what he does but hasn't been great for what the contract will give him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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