Buffalo716 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Pete said: we are still looking for our Big Nickel Sure McDermott might be looking for that person. But it's not going to be as big as a package as what most people think Maybe 15-20% of snaps. At most And in McDermott's defense he's replacing Taron johnson, a really good nickel corner who does a bit of everything for us.. when Taron goes down we replace him with 3 guys platooning haha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DJB Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 10 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Perfect fit for our big nickel. 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Hes not great in coverage but he's solid against the run. Had some 1st round hype before the season but I think he may fall to the late 2nd or possibly the 3rd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazeduck Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 1 hour ago, DJB said: Hes not great in coverage but he's solid against the run. Had some 1st round hype before the season but I think he may fall to the late 2nd or possibly the 3rd. My take on Moses: 1. get intel on his teammates (Harris, Barmore, maybe Waddle?) 2. in case we get a sweetheart offer for Edmunds 3. standard due diligence in case he falls to the 5th or something... I don't see any other real likely scenario for McBeane to be overly interested in him otherwise... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Beane will never draft a guy that can’t keep his mouth shut. Geez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazeduck Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Beane will never draft a guy that can’t keep his mouth shut. Geez. Beane loves to play games with the draft... I'm willing to bet he calls in favors on occasion to create smoke, misdirect, etc. This could also be that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 5, 2021 Author Share Posted April 5, 2021 (edited) I heard the Bills like Shawn Wade. Met with him a few times. Edited April 5, 2021 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazeduck Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I heard the Bills like Shawn Wade. Met with him a few times. I’d be really interested to know where they see him. Most of the league thinks he’s gonna have to transition to S, which is plummeting his stock, but I think he’d be fine at cb in our system... talented player who fits our scheme at a discount? Yes please. Makes a lot of sense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 5, 2021 Author Share Posted April 5, 2021 Just now, glazeduck said: I’d be really interested to know where they see him. Most of the league thinks he’s gonna have to transition to S, which is plummeting his stock, but I think he’d be fine at cb in our system... talented player who fits our scheme at a discount? Yes please. Makes a lot of sense... He’s a really good slot corner. He had a tough year on the outside for a variety of reasons, one of which he was playing with turf toe and very little safety help. I think he’s a corner. I wouldn’t move him to safety. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 On 3/5/2021 at 1:11 PM, MrSarcasm said: Based on this list it appears the Bills are okay with AJ Klein being a starter for the whole year. That would be terrifying especially playing someone like NE with two TE sets , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I heard the Bills like Shawn Wade. Met with him a few times. Which Shawn Wade? The one I saw this past season was underwhelming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: He’s a really good slot corner. He had a tough year on the outside for a variety of reasons, one of which he was playing with turf toe and very little safety help. I think he’s a corner. I wouldn’t move him to safety. Interesting. I have him graded as a safety transition. I don't know if he has the short area quickness to be a slot in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 55 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Interesting. I have him graded as a safety transition. I don't know if he has the short area quickness to be a slot in the NFL. From my untrained eye he played like a safety against Alabama. He made some pretty nice tackles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 On 3/25/2021 at 12:46 PM, YoloinOhio said: “May the Schwartz be with you” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 10 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: He’s a really good slot corner. He had a tough year on the outside for a variety of reasons, one of which he was playing with turf toe and very little safety help. I think he’s a corner. I wouldn’t move him to safety. I can’t believe how hard he’s dropped in the eyes of the draftniks. I’d like him on the Bills in the slot. His length there would be a plus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 5, 2021 Author Share Posted April 5, 2021 15 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: I can’t believe how hard he’s dropped in the eyes of the draftniks. I’d like him on the Bills in the slot. His length there would be a plus. I have a feeling their interest is rooted in his mental approach, dedication to football (that mcdermott DNA) and that he won’t need to start right away. He has the athleticism and intelligence. 5 star recruit and graduated in 3 years. Would fit into the locker room, he’s a big “team” guy. He would need to find the right fit. He hurt his stock coming back this year but if he’s there in the 3rd someone will jump on that as a developmental guy. Taron J is a FA next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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glazeduck Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: This is interesting. Played a ton of slot for Oregon -- great ball skills -- probably the best in the class. Happy to wax poetically about him if folks have questions. That said, hard for me to believe we're spending one of our top 2 picks on him -- feels more like due diligence if he falls to the 3rd? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 5, 2021 Author Share Posted April 5, 2021 17 minutes ago, glazeduck said: This is interesting. Played a ton of slot for Oregon -- great ball skills -- probably the best in the class. Happy to wax poetically about him if folks have questions. That said, hard for me to believe we're spending one of our top 2 picks on him -- feels more like due diligence if he falls to the 3rd? Safety is a sneaky need. Not much depth at the moment behind Hyde and poyer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazeduck Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Safety is a sneaky need. Not much depth at the moment behind Hyde and poyer. I maybe agree? We've not seen much of Jaquan Johnson but he's looked *fine* if not reasonably good in the few stretches that we have seen. I'd love to add depth there, I'm just not sure that's how I'd like to see us use one of our premium picks (Duck homer be damned). Based purely on some of these meetings, it does seem like they maybe closely evaluating Taron Johnson and the nickel position. Another guy I've felt has been good enough so far, but perhaps they're wanting more/something different from it? I will say this, Holland is a TON of fun to have on your team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Bills have visited with a few safeties this Spring. HVe to believe a safety would be a third day pick unless someone fell or a Buffalo nickel type is taken in round 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 On 3/29/2021 at 12:40 PM, DJB said: Perfect fit for our big nickel. Is this term "big nickel" meaning a defender that can cover a pass catching TE? If so I'm all for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Is this term "big nickel" meaning a defender that can cover a pass catching TE? If so I'm all for it. Correct. Mostly used to cover the TE as well as pass catching route from the RB's. Skilled enough to occasionally hang with WR's as well. Its a position that McDermott really loves to use for his D and we are missing that kind of player big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, DJB said: Correct. Mostly used to cover the TE as well as pass catching route from the RB's. Skilled enough to occasionally hang with WR's as well. Its a position that McDermott really loves to use for his D and we are missing that kind of player big time. That is what I thought and I remember talk about McDermott liking that. Another amateur's question. Does this type defense ever change the typical 4 DL alignment on passing downs? Could it be used in a more hybrid 3-4 type situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 31 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: That is what I thought and I remember talk about McDermott liking that. Another amateur's question. Does this type defense ever change the typical 4 DL alignment on passing downs? Could it be used in a more hybrid 3-4 type situation? A lot of these guys are definitely skilled enough to rush the passer along with 3DL or as a blitzer with what the Bills do on D. The Bills stick to a 4DL alignment pretty much in most situations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Just read through this thread. Good stuff. Learning a lot about different players that I’ve never heard of. Really enjoying it. Thanks for the info, everybody. Please keep adding to it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Joe Tryon would be a heck of a selection. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 6, 2021 Author Share Posted April 6, 2021 1 minute ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: Joe Tryon would be a heck of a selection. 2nd round? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazeduck Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 9 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: 2nd round? If that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 21 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: 2nd round? I just meant in general, he's a heck of a player. Had he not opted out for the season I think he would have been a first round lock imo. Not sure of his projection this year. It's hard to say with a bunch of these guys opting out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DJB Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 Its a very deep WR class so we should get some great value by adding one of these guys. I'm just a little surpised at how much we continue to add to the group. But I guess at some point Beasley and Sanders will be replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 On 4/5/2021 at 6:31 PM, DJB said: Correct. Mostly used to cover the TE as well as pass catching route from the RB's. Skilled enough to occasionally hang with WR's as well. Its a position that McDermott really loves to use for his D and we are missing that kind of player big time. I don't think McDermott has ever used a big nickel more than 20% snaps Saying he really loves to use it for the D might be a little bit of an overstatement, it's just a strategic chess piece And the big Nickel is replacing Taron Johnson who is a really fine slot corner.. it's a specific strategic piece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I don't think McDermott has ever used a big nickel more than 20% snaps Saying he really loves to use it for the D might be a little bit of an overstatement, it's just a strategic chess piece And the big Nickel is replacing Taron Johnson who is a really fine slot corner.. it's a specific strategic piece I dont have the numbers...maybe you do, but perhaps he hasn't used a big nickle with the Bills because we haven't had one? I can't recall who played that part in Carolina either. Edited April 7, 2021 by DJB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, DJB said: I dont have the numbers...maybe you do, but perhaps he hasn't used a big nickle with the Bills because haven't had one? It's a formation that is very dependant on offensive formations It's going 3 Safeties instead of 2 and a Nickel corner... So that big dime safety has to be able to cover slot WRs, be tough in run support, blitz off the edge , play a hook zone, and be fundamentally sound Yea if you had charles woodson you would be golden but the majority of players can't handle the full duties off the role so it's relagated to a small part of the book.. it's not made for 70% of packages Edited April 7, 2021 by Buffalo716 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 13 minutes ago, DJB said: I'm just a little surpised at how much we continue to add to the group. But I guess at some point Beasley and Sanders will be replaced. The receivers take a beating in this offense.........tons of short passes.......lot's of tacklers coming downhill at them.........it wasn't surprising that they were all pretty beat up come playoff time. They need a lot of receivers.........it's the "fastball" of their offense as McDermott says. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Michael Strachan has a teammate from Buffalo’s Riverside HS, Elbert Munn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 18 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Our special teams would be cooking with Stove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 On 4/6/2021 at 1:17 PM, BuffaloBillsGospel said: I just meant in general, he's a heck of a player. Had he not opted out for the season I think he would have been a first round lock imo. Not sure of his projection this year. It's hard to say with a bunch of these guys opting out. I think that might be the assumption, but we don't know if the luster would have come off of Tryon if he had played last year. I suspect that Jayson Oweh would be taken a little higher than he will be had he not played last year and generated 0 sacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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