MJS Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 (edited) Came across this on reddit. Josh Allen is number 1 in the NFL at evading pressure: Edited November 11, 2020 by MJS 3 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Well, he's so diminutive.....................................oh wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 11, 2020 Author Share Posted November 11, 2020 Surprising to see Matt Ryan so high. The rest of those guys are pretty mobile. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 What I love about Allen's elusiveness is that he combines the typical Athletic QB using speed and cuts to avoid hits, but he also is developing Brady's technique of seemingly barely moving at all and seeing people miss all around him. I think that combination is kind of unique, and its starting to look instinctual to him 18 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 I am not sure how he does this He sees pass rushers coming and he runs 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 #5 they guy who's supposed to be the better athlete. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 One of these things is not like the other. One of these things just *doesn't* belong. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Someone smarter than me, ( that would be the rest of you) should put together a list of every stat that Josh is top five in, I’m guessing it’s a long list, oh and send a copy to pfff, not that they will comprehend it’s meaning... Go Bills!!! 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 30 minutes ago, HOUSE said: I am not sure how he does this He sees pass rushers coming and he runs He's also getting better at delivering the ball to the space created by the blitz. He's not running from pressure like he used to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 11, 2020 Author Share Posted November 11, 2020 49 minutes ago, dorquemada said: What I love about Allen's elusiveness is that he combines the typical Athletic QB using speed and cuts to avoid hits, but he also is developing Brady's technique of seemingly barely moving at all and seeing people miss all around him. I think that combination is kind of unique, and its starting to look instinctual to him Also, he's just super strong. He isn't always just eluding defenders. He's throwing them off of him and breaking tackles and sacks. Pretty hard for defenders to deal with. He's big, athletic and mobile, can break through tackles, AND he's smart and can maneuver in the pocket. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, MJS said: Surprising to see Matt Ryan so high. The rest of those guys are pretty mobile. I think it also has to do with how they step up in the pocket & slip initial pressure. I know I usually think of their ability to run, but slipping tackles & moving around in the pocket to create space & avoid sacks is probably factored in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 11, 2020 Author Share Posted November 11, 2020 21 minutes ago, BigDingus said: I think it also has to do with how they step up in the pocket & slip initial pressure. I know I usually think of their ability to run, but slipping tackles & moving around in the pocket to create space & avoid sacks is probably factored in. Well that's exactly what it is. I just didn't know Matt Ryan was that good at it compared to those other guys who are more agile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 WTF is Matt Ryan doing with those 4?🤣🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 11, 2020 Author Share Posted November 11, 2020 Funny that they chose to show a picture of Murray even though Allen is #1... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Don Otreply said: Someone smarter than me, ( that would be the rest of you) should put together a list of every stat that Josh is top five in, I’m guessing it’s a long list, oh and send a copy to pfff, not that they will comprehend it’s meaning... Go Bills!!! well, you are smarter than PFF. 😂😏😇👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BisonMan Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 58 minutes ago, MJS said: Also, he's just super strong. He isn't always just eluding defenders. He's throwing them off of him and breaking tackles and sacks. Pretty hard for defenders to deal with. He's big, athletic and mobile, can break through tackles, AND he's smart and can maneuver in the pocket. I was thinking this myself as I read this thread. I wonder if they count face-palming a defender into the carpet as "evading" the defender. See angry run Week #2 vs. the Phish (starts at 4:10 mark or so): 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: #5 they guy who's supposed to be the better athlete. Maybe it only counts when you actually are attempting to pass the ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 11, 2020 Author Share Posted November 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, BisonMan said: I was thinking this myself as I read this thread. I wonder if they count face-palming a defender into the carpet as "evading" the defender. See angry run Week #2 vs. the Phish (starts at 4:10 mark or so): I'm pretty sure they do count that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 2 hours ago, MJS said: Funny that they chose to show a picture of Murray even though Allen is #1... Murray was a higher draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 5 hours ago, Don Otreply said: Someone smarter than me, ( that would be the rest of you) should put together a list of every stat that Josh is top five in, I’m guessing it’s a long list, oh and send a copy to pfff, not that they will comprehend it’s meaning... Go Bills!!! But Mercury is in Retrograde, and Momson (or whatever his name is) likes our Josh now 5 hours ago, MJS said: Surprising to see Matt Ryan so high. The rest of those guys are pretty mobile. I think that it may not mean what one thinks....it's talking about mobility behind the LOS, evading pressure and making a pass, right? So it's actually a sign of a mobile QB who does not get *too* mobile. Ryan is pretty shifty in the pocket and makes guys miss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 4 hours ago, MJS said: Funny that they chose to show a picture of Murray even though Allen is #1... Clicks. 😃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 12, 2020 Author Share Posted November 12, 2020 12 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I think that it may not mean what one thinks....it's talking about mobility behind the LOS, evading pressure and making a pass, right? So it's actually a sign of a mobile QB who does not get *too* mobile. Ryan is pretty shifty in the pocket and makes guys miss. I understand that. But there's no denying that mobile QB's are more agile and able to evade defenders in the backfield better than your traditional pocket QB's. I don't watch Ryan much at all, so I was unaware that he was elusive in the pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 5 hours ago, MJS said: Surprising to see Matt Ryan so high. The rest of those guys are pretty mobile. Mobility doesn't mean fast sometimes. Tom Brady is one of the best mobile qbs ever and runs like a 3 month old great dane. Its about moving in the pocket and avoiding the rush. Ryan, Manning and Brady are some of the best ever at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 30 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: But Mercury is in Retrograde, and Momson (or whatever his name is) likes our Josh now I think that it may not mean what one thinks....it's talking about mobility behind the LOS, evading pressure and making a pass, right? So it's actually a sign of a mobile QB who does not get *too* mobile. Ryan is pretty shifty in the pocket and makes guys miss. Momson lies... 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 There is something different about Josh's footwork in the pocket this year......he isnt bailing out of it and moving around in the pocket.... It is nice to see a 6'5 big QB doing this....but have the ability to take off if he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 46 minutes ago, TroutDog said: Clicks. 😃 Is the Cardinals fan base really that much larger than the Bills? I feel the Cardinals fan base is not nearly as devoted as the Bills. But that could also just be my fan bias showing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 47 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: Is the Cardinals fan base really that much larger than the Bills? I feel the Cardinals fan base is not nearly as devoted as the Bills. But that could also just be my fan bias showing. I believe it is. They have been all over the darn country and I guarantee there are residual fans. Devotion? Possibly not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 6 hours ago, MJS said: Well that's exactly what it is. I just didn't know Matt Ryan was that good at it compared to those other guys who are more agile. Stats can be flawed when the perspective is different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 12 hours ago, MJS said: Surprising to see Matt Ryan so high. The rest of those guys are pretty mobile. you dont have to be mobile to be elusive. Oak trees has much to do it. A younger Roethlisberger case in point. Lucky for us Josh is both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 6 hours ago, PetermansRedemption said: Is the Cardinals fan base really that much larger than the Bills? I feel the Cardinals fan base is not nearly as devoted as the Bills. But that could also just be my fan bias showing. I don't know if their "Core" fan base is as big as ours, but they have A LOT of retirement transplants in AZ (Hi mom and Dad) who have adopted the Cards as their team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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