MAJBobby Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 (edited) With the deadline coming tomorrow this is a nice read on some of the potential players up for a Move. https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/2045311 Outside that something I started hearing down here in FL is a rumor of Bills and Jags talking about DJ Hayden, CB. Also Heard Bills Connected to Giants (Engram), Texans (Mercilus) and Bengals (Adkins) from my little bird. Edited November 3, 2020 by MAJBobby 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: With the deadline coming tomorrow this is a nice read on some of the potential players up for a Move. https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/2045311 Outside that something I started hearing down here in FL is a rumor of Bills and Jags talking about DJ Hayden, CB. Also Heard Bills Connected to Giants (Engram), Texans (Mercilus) and Bengals (Adkins) from my little bird. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 2, 2020 Author Share Posted November 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: The issue I asked the little bird is fitting the contracts. The Bird chirped will also need to move Trent Murphy and that is being discussed as a standalone move, as well as packaging together with one of the others. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Chargers are shopping Desmond King. Having another all pro across from White could really help this defense. Moving Levi to WR3, would give that extra time to our d-line, and I think could really help the entire unit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 I think the next guy to move is Desmond King. While I’d probably like him here at slot not sure we’ll be in the mix. I’m never sold on big trade moves in the NFL happening always seems to be a lot of noise with not very many trades happening. This year may be a little different with virus stuff and college football and combines etc etc being out of whack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Just now, MAJBobby said: The issue I asked the little bird is fitting the contracts. The Bird chirped will also need to move Trent Murphy and that is being discussed as a standalone move, as well as packaging together with one of the others. If we can't trade Murphy, I'm assuming we would cut him to make room? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 2, 2020 Author Share Posted November 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: If we can't trade Murphy, I'm assuming we would cut him to make room? No because need to move the contract. just cutting moves that entire contract to dead money (as it is guaranteed since the year started). Only way to free the Space is to Move Murphy's Contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: With the deadline coming tomorrow this is a nice read on some of the potential players up for a Move. https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/2045311 Outside that something I started hearing down here in FL is a rumor of Bills and Jags talking about DJ Hayden, CB. Also Heard Bills Connected to Giants (Engram), Texans (Mercilus) and Bengals (Adkins) from my little bird. Engram? Not Tomlinson? I would be very pleased with Mercilus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Just now, MAJBobby said: No because need to move the contract. just cutting moves that entire contract to dead money (as it is guaranteed since the year started). Only way to free the Space is to Move Murphy's Contract. I would assume there isn't much interest on the market for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 2, 2020 Author Share Posted November 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: I think the next guy to move is Desmond King. While I’d probably like him here at slot not sure we’ll be in the mix. I’m never sold on big trade moves in the NFL happening always seems to be a lot of noise with not very many trades happening. This year may be a little different with virus stuff and college football and combines etc etc being out of whack I think COVID and Scouting and All-Star games being at risk (Shrine already cancelled). Those picks 3 round and blow become less valuable to me (I think) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, Codyny13 said: Chargers are shopping Desmond King. Having another all pro across from White could really help this defense. Moving Levi to WR3, would give that extra time to our d-line, and I think could really help the entire unit. King would take Tarons spot not Levi. He’s an elite slot corner, not sure he’s played outside as much although he can in a pinch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 2, 2020 Author Share Posted November 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Mark Vader said: Engram? Not Tomlinson? I would be very pleased with Mercilus. My Bird didn't mention. I can ask and see if there is any connection their (but seems like Adkins would be their top TGT, based on what I heard from him). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I would assume there isn't much interest on the market for him. Browns might take him if Garrett’s MRI has him out a few weeks. They have tons of cap space and are fighting for a playoff spot. No he wouldn’t replace Garrett but they need someone to step in, a vet would help. Edited November 2, 2020 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 I really hope we attempt to add to this defense. Most excited I have been about a trade deadline in a while. Hope they try here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 2, 2020 Author Share Posted November 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: I would assume there isn't much interest on the market for him. Not in a Trade for Pick. But to play the scenario described to me. Bills come to agreement with Texans on compensation for Mercilus being a 4th, but Bills want to include Murphy to remove that contract, Texans may take less than a 4th at that point, maybe a 5th or 6th (as they get out from Mercilus Contract and Murphy is expiring. However they explained the compensation for someone like Njoku might climb higher to take Murphy's contract off our hands as part of the trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Engram? Not Tomlinson? I would be very pleased with Mercilus. I’m not sure jersey would move Tomlinson. They can easily afford a new deal for him. He’s a team captain. He seems to have a really big value to them. He gets mentioned but I think that’s just common with losing teams only having so many players of value. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 beane needs to make a move to get us in place for a playoff run. team and fan base need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 King and Hayden would be rentals. Both of them are on expiring contracts. Hayden is a bit long in the tooth and King is going to want to get his $$$. Mercilus comes with a hefty price tag, $10,000,000 to $13,000,000+ per season over the next 3 years, and he's already 30. Adkins is 32 and comes with a hefty price tag as well. For a team with only $4,000,000 in cap room I don't really see us making those moves. The Giants have been talking up Engram and I'm not sure if they will let him go. He has his 5th year option at just over $6,000,000 left out there after this season, due to be a UFA in 2022. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 I’d be shocked if Beane makes a move right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: My Bird didn't mention. I can ask and see if there is any connection their (but seems like Adkins would be their top TGT, based on what I heard from him). I see. I'm not interested in Engram. Going for another Tight End is far less important than going for defense. Pursuing Atkins & Mercilus makes a lot more sense. Won't be easy, but they have to try. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 19 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: With the deadline coming tomorrow this is a nice read on some of the potential players up for a Move. https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/2045311 Outside that something I started hearing down here in FL is a rumor of Bills and Jags talking about DJ Hayden, CB. Also Heard Bills Connected to Giants (Engram), Texans (Mercilus) and Bengals (Adkins) from my little bird. I'd love to get Adkins. Actually either of those 3 names you listed would be great. IMO I'd hope they go LB or DT if a trade happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: I’d be shocked if Beane makes a move right now Why? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 2, 2020 Author Share Posted November 2, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: I see. I'm not interested in Engram. Going for another Tight End is far less important than going for defense. Pursuing Atkins & Mercilus makes a lot more sense. Won't be easy, but they have to try. I think they are looking at the Offense and Saying, crap we need that TE that will threaten these Cover 2 looks we are getting now (I think they Hoped Knox would do that but seems he is not). I can also say the Birdie did tell me that TB is interested in Knox as well. OOO Also the Birdie told me that the Bills have no intention of moving their 1st or 2nd round picks. Said all other picks are assets they will use in a trade, feeling is those later picks will have a hard time making next years football team anyway. Edited November 2, 2020 by MAJBobby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahnyc Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Mercilus would be a great addition, but don't we need help at MLB as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 18 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: King would take Tarons spot not Levi. He’s an elite slot corner, not sure he’s played outside as much although he can in a pinch. Don’t they play him all around the secondary, including safety? I know he’s not overly big, but can he play a Tyrann type game, where he can match up, but also drop deep? I don’t follow the Chargers closely enough... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 2, 2020 Author Share Posted November 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, jahnyc said: Mercilus would be a great addition, but don't we need help at MLB as well? Nope, Get a 1 Tech and you fix, the 3 Tech and the MLB spot as well. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Just now, Codyny13 said: Don’t they play him all around the secondary, including safety? I know he’s not overly big, but can he play a Tyrann type game, where he can match up, but also drop deep? I don’t follow the Chargers closely enough... When Derwin went down I think they tried him at safety. He’s been a healthy scratch and only started 2-3 games so that should tell a little about his story there. In 2018 he was probably the best slot corner in the league. He would be a massive upgrade over Taron in coverage and in blitzing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I think they are looking at the Offense and Saying, crap we need that TE that will threaten these Cover 2 looks we are getting now (I think they Hoped Knox would do that but seems he is not). I can also say the Birdie did tell me that TB is interested in Knox as well. OOO Also the Birdie told me that the Bills have no intention of moving their 1st or 2nd round picks. Said all other picks are assets they will use in a trade, feeling is those later picks will have a hard time making next years football team anyway. Yeah, that makes sense. Which will make trading more difficult. Beane will have to get very creative. I see your point about the Tight End position, although I still think Knox can be valuable to us. If you listen to some people on this board you'd think that Knox has never caught a pass in his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 2, 2020 Author Share Posted November 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Yeah, that makes sense. Which will make trading more difficult. Beane will have to get very creative. I see your point about the Tight End position, although I still think Knox can be valuable to us. If you listen to some people on this board you'd think that Knox has never caught a pass in his life. I dont think Kroft is anything more than that typical TE2. I also think Knox while flashes is still to inconsistent to be counted on. If you can get a Njoku for a third I would be all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I dont think Kroft is anything more than that typical TE2. I also think Knox while flashes is still to inconsistent to be counted on. If you can get a Njoku for a third I would be all over it. What specifically is it about Njoku that you like? I’ve got a lot of friends who are Cleveland fans and they say he has a worse case of drops than Knox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 51 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: King would take Tarons spot not Levi. He’s an elite slot corner, not sure he’s played outside as much although he can in a pinch. Agree, King got moved outside a couple years ago and was not effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 2, 2020 Author Share Posted November 2, 2020 1 minute ago, JGMcD2 said: What specifically is it about Njoku that you like? I’ve got a lot of friends who are Cleveland fans and they say he has a worse case of drops than Knox. Speed - True Cover 2 Beater Body Control, with a Huge Catch Radius. Has a total of 8 drops in his career, Knox had 10 in 2019. Once again Knox in a double digit drop% Too fast to cover with a LBer. Too Big for Safeties and DBs your prototypical matchup nightmare Has great ball tracking ability. Comes from TE U. Routes are great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksilver Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 @MAJBobby where are you and your little birdy friend on TEs; Engram or Njoku? Which one is more preferred? Would cost be that much different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Speed - True Cover 2 Beater Body Control, with a Huge Catch Radius. Has a total of 8 drops in his career, Knox had 10 in 2019. Once again Knox in a double digit drop% Too fast to cover with a LBer. Too Big for Safeties and DBs your prototypical matchup nightmare Has great ball tracking ability. Comes from TE U. Routes are great. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/08/david-njoku-needs-to-drop-fewer-passes-and-te-coach-drew-petzing-is-working-on-it.html%3foutputType=amp I should have included what they sent me to illustrate their points. It looks like your drop numbers are off... that 8 drops numbers he had was from one season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGun12TD Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 (edited) Desmond King? UPDATE: Just saw he was traded to the Titans. Edited November 2, 2020 by KGun12TD UPDATE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 2, 2020 Author Share Posted November 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, qwksilver said: @MAJBobby where are you and your little birdy friend on TEs; Engram or Njoku? Which one is more preferred? Would cost be that much different? He never mentioned Njoku, that is me, that would be the TE I would want over Engram. The Birdy mentioned only Engram to me (and that might have to do with cost.) Engram has years left on Contract https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/evan-engram-21764/ Njoku Does as well https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/david-njoku-21770/ So I guess it comes to compensation they likely think that Engram is cheaper compensation wise than Njoku would be. Also could be the thinking that Njoku (even though he said he wants to be moved) isnt going to be moved off a team trying to get to the playoffs who has injuries at both the WR and TE positions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 55 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I think they are looking at the Offense and Saying, crap we need that TE that will threaten these Cover 2 looks we are getting now (I think they Hoped Knox would do that but seems he is not). I can also say the Birdie did tell me that TB is interested in Knox as well. OOO Also the Birdie told me that the Bills have no intention of moving their 1st or 2nd round picks. Said all other picks are assets they will use in a trade, feeling is those later picks will have a hard time making next years football team anyway. I assume your birdie is OK with you sharing this info? Or do they not know? Nice inside pipeline you have there!! Thanks for Sharing! 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 2, 2020 Author Share Posted November 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/08/david-njoku-needs-to-drop-fewer-passes-and-te-coach-drew-petzing-is-working-on-it.html%3foutputType=amp I should have included what they sent me to illustrate their points. It looks like your drop numbers are off... that 8 drops numbers he had was from one season. You included One Drop thanks. Shall I go post the same drops from Knox Just now, Kwai San said: I assume your birdie is OK with you sharing this info? Or do they not know? Nice inside pipeline you have there!! Thanks for Sharing! 👍 Yep I dont put out info unless I am told I am ok to do it. There is one I am holding back I wish I could tell everyone because it would be pertinent when talking some of the positions that are being looked at but was told that one is only close hold. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 I don't see how Atkins fixes any issues. That move would've excited me 2 years ago.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Yep I dont put out info unless I am told I am ok to do it. There is one I am holding back I wish I could tell everyone because it would be pertinent when talking some of the positions that are being looked at but was told that one is only close hold. Dang!!! I gotta believe THAT one is a zinger.....hopefully they can swing it! Thanks again.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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