Chiefs fans boo Texans/Chiefs locking of arms display

[dwight in philly]

24 minutes ago, Mrbojanglezs said:

BLM movement provides no solutions except defunding the police and majority of Americans do not want that.

 

Your surprised that Americans are no longer supporting a Marxist movement trying to destroy the country through racial division, rioting, arson, and looting.

 

Don't be surprised about that

Exactly.. 

[HamSandwhich]

1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said:

That just isn’t true and I would urge you take your blinders off.  The loons are firmly entrenched on both sides of this issue.  

On this issue specifically, yes. On other issues, there are looneys on the right too. One such issue would be REAL white supremacy, not the stuff that’s been conflated with any type of positive feelings of whiteness. Perhaps you see this as two sides of the social justice coin and that’s what you mean? 

[C.Biscuit97]

1 hour ago, formerlyofCtown said:

I believe that's what the booing is about.  Sports are an escape from all that stuff.  People who really believe in a cause sacrifice for that cause.  You can't say you are fighting poverty and Drive a Ferrari.  At least I hope that is why people are upset with this.

What? So if you don’t have cancer, you can’t be against cancer?  This is insane.  You know players have families and not every family member drives a Ferrari right?

[Coach Tuesday]

Just now, finn said:

I agree that it's hard to hear the same people who piously condemn these protests as as unpatriotic turn around and cheer a president who sneers at the military as losers and suckers. There's a saying, "No one belongs to a cult." Trump supporters, at least those who display this degree of cognitive dissonance, don't realize they belong to a cult and are behaving like cult members. All criticism of Our Dear Leader is invalid. He is noble, strong and brave. He fights for us. He loves us. He is the Messiah.

 

It's like fricking North Korea or China under Mao. And it's happening here!

 

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I would go further than that and say that the problem - ironically - is that people on both sides treat politics like sports!  It amazes me that people on both sides view it as pure coincidence (or worse, proof of divine righteousness) that they always land on the same side of every issue.  Stop treating your “side” like a team you’re rooting for and actually think through the nuance and try to understand where the other side is coming from and maybe we’ll get somewhere.  

[OrtonHearsaWho]

4 minutes ago, finn said:

I agree that it's hard to hear the same people who piously condemn these protests as as unpatriotic turn around and cheer a president who sneers at the military as losers and suckers. There's a saying, "No one belongs to a cult." Trump supporters, at least those who display this degree of cognitive dissonance, don't realize they belong to a cult and are behaving like cult members. All criticism of Our Dear Leader is invalid. He is noble, strong and brave. He fights for us. He loves us. He is the Messiah.

 

It's like fricking North Korea or China under Mao. And it's happening here!

 

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They quite literally and unironically use the term/hashtag "Cult45"

[C.Biscuit97]

1 hour ago, Teddy KGB said:

The bums over at espn would rather discuss the “booing” instead of the game 🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️
 

Because idiots booed during a moment of unity.  It’s an awful look and it’s wild that some here are trying to defend them.  
 

they are trash.  Probably the best thing that happened to some of those fans is they happened to pop out and be born in some trash part of Missouri so they can be Americans.  

[Reality Check]

3 minutes ago, finn said:

I agree that it's hard to hear the same people who piously condemn these protests as as unpatriotic turn around and cheer a president who sneers at the military as losers and suckers. There's a saying, "No one belongs to a cult." Trump supporters, at least those who display this degree of cognitive dissonance, don't realize they belong to a cult and are behaving like cult members. All criticism of Our Dear Leader is invalid. He is noble, strong and brave. He fights for us. He loves us. He is the Messiah.

 

It's like fricking North Korea or China under Mao. And it's happening here!

 

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This is some pretty irrational stuff. People are now seeing cults everywhere. Too much CO2 being re-breathed perhaps.

[Coach Tuesday]

2 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said:

On this issue specifically, yes. On other issues, there are looneys on the right too. One such issue would be REAL white supremacy, not the stuff that’s been conflated with any type of positive feelings of whiteness. Perhaps you see this as two sides of the social justice coin and that’s what you mean? 

I do see it that way yes.  I also think you’re seeing a reaction to some folks feeling like the white supremacists are being sanctioned and encouraged by a certain segment of the GOP.  But I also think “positive feelings of whiteness” is a loaded term and I suggest we don’t go there...

[buffalonian]

I am glad to see the players take a stand against racial injustice.  They have a platform with tremendous exposure to the entire nation. I also believe that it would deeply trouble many of them to stay silent under these extraordinary circumstances; and its hard to fault someone acting on their conscience and peacefully standing against injustice.  Seeing as there was no desecration of patriotic symbols last night, I'm curious why some folks remain bent out of shape by the display of unity before the start of the game. Clearly it isn't about the respecting the flag.  Perhaps their continued discontent with the players is a prime example of why the players are justified taking a public stand; people aren't otherwise listening and racism is alive and well in this country. 

[aristocrat]

So people at the game say the booing was from the Texans coming on the field. 

[Penfield45]

19 minutes ago, BeastMaster said:

A few thoughts on a few topics here

 

1. I hate politics in sports. These folks are privileged to play a game for incredible money...they should recognize and appreciate that, but many do not. This is why I've lost some interest 

 

2. I have no issue with the locking of arms, but kneeling for anyone...especially during the anthem does offend me.

 

3. Memorializing George Floyd is pretty gross with him being the scumbag he was. What happened was wrong, but he is not someone who should have praise heaped upon him. Condemn the police tactics, but leave the worship of that disgusting person out of it.

 

4. I keep hearing racial inequality and change/justice. What exactly is this? What do people believe should happen, cause to me it seems like empty demands. You want all the cops to be found guilty and sentenced to the maximum penalty? Do we not honor and trust the legal system to sort it out? Seriously...what do those crying and causing chaos for change and justice want? If we go by what BLM says they want, then it's pretty much the destruction of the nuclear family and a country where blacks police themselves. This doesn't seem like a good idea to me, but I'll let others chime in if they'd like.

 

5. Today is the memorial of one of the most awful days in our history, and I refuse to bicker with others on this day, so we can do that another time if you take issue with anything I said. 

 

Go Bills!

 

this might be one of the dumbest posts ive seen on here

 

you are so misinformed 

[Coach Tuesday]

Just now, Reality Check said:

 

This is some pretty irrational stuff. People are now seeing cults everywhere. Too much CO2 being re-breathed perhaps.

There is no difference between “all cops are racist” and “all protesters are marxists” or whatever.  It’s the same exact kind of destructive (and false) groupthink that’s tearing the country to shreds.

[C.Biscuit97]

1 hour ago, Sargent Hulka said:

Paying customers should not be subjected the the social justice stuff. There's plenty of social media platforms for that. End of story!

Hey minority.  Please protest some where I can’t see it and don’t have to worry about your issues. 
 

signed, 

 

Whitey McSportsfan

 

PS can’t wait to see Kid Rock on Laura Horseface tonight talk politics!

[whatdrought]

4 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Because idiots booed during a moment of unity.  It’s an awful look and it’s wild that some here are trying to defend them.  
 

they are trash.  Probably the best thing that happened to some of those fans is they happened to pop out and be born in some trash part of Missouri so they can be Americans.  

 

I’m curious- do you personally know some of the people who were at the game last night that boo’d? 

Edited September 11, 2020 by whatdrought

[Reality Check]

2 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Because idiots booed during a moment of unity.  It’s an awful look and it’s wild that some here are trying to defend them.  
 

they are trash.  Probably the best thing that happened to some of those fans is they happened to pop out and be born in some trash part of Missouri so they can be Americans.  

 

Who exactly are you angry at?

[thenorthremembers]

If the NFL and its players actually cared about black lives they would have started this years ago to protest black people killing one another.  They would have done more to lift black lives besides their own out of poverty.   A black man is 90% more likely to be killed by his own race than he is a cop but no one says anything about that.  Over 65% of black homes are fatherless, anyone want to talk about that? People boo because they are sick of thr 24/7 pandering to a cause that cant see beyond their own nose.  Wanna create real change?  Start it in your own community.  Stop protesting your consequences and start giving your kids a chance.

 

 

[whatdrought]

1 minute ago, Penfield45 said:

 

this might be one of the dumbest posts ive seen on here

 

you are so misinformed 

Why is he misinformed? What points do you disagree with? He even numbered his assertions making it very easy to respond to. To which point do you disagree? 

[HamSandwhich]

2 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

I do see it that way yes.  I also think you’re seeing a reaction to some folks feeling like the white supremacists are being sanctioned and encouraged by a certain segment of the GOP.  But I also think “positive feelings of whiteness” is a loaded term and I suggest we don’t go there...

By that I mean just being proud of who I am. I am as a person. That’s it

[Reality Check]

1 minute ago, Penfield45 said:

 

this might be one of the dumbest posts ive seen on here

 

you are so misinformed 

 

This is how you build unity.

[C.Biscuit97]

5 hours ago, gordong said:

I just have an issue of adding politics to a sporting event...  When I watch sports it's to escape all the other crap going on,  I just don't feel its the time or place..  Play the damn game collect your check and if you want to be a person for change afterwords on your own time great more power to you.   Simple fact of the matter is I will just tune out the beginning of games, and if it keeps up the NFL will loose me as a fan. I'm trying to watch a sporting event I'm not asking for your political views.  

I don’t want my neighbors political views but they are out there in the forms of bumper stickers, flags, and signs.

 

i really think some of those fans would be the same ones booing Jackie Robinson. 

[HamSandwhich]

4 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

I do see it that way yes.  I also think you’re seeing a reaction to some folks feeling like the white supremacists are being sanctioned and encouraged by a certain segment of the GOP.  But I also think “positive feelings of whiteness” is a loaded term and I suggest we don’t go there...

I’ll put it this way, I’m proud of myself and what I be accomplished and I happen to be white. That is white supremacy these days. 

[4_kidd_4]

We sure they weren’t saying “Booouurns”??

[JESSEFEFFER]

20 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said:

Eloquently stated, however, I wouldn’t call myself offended by much if anything. You also state that our history tells us it’s a struggle and I agree it has been in the past. Have we not gotten better and better as the years have passed? It’s as if people think that history means it has to presently be the same? It is my learned opinion that there is no systemic racism remaining, rather sparse individual racism that needs to be rooted out. We’ve come very far to get to this point but now the radicals want to burn it to the ground, all the progress we worked for. All with mostly illegitimate gripes based on feelings rather than actual facts and statistics that don’t back up their grievances. 
 

So can a country ever not be racist? Or is it that the term has become so amorphous we wouldn’t even know what a non-racist country is would look like? Everything is racist these days, and that’s by design, license to burn it all to the ground. 

I will engage here.  Sure there has been progress.  That is mostly the story of our country.  But, the story is not finished and there should be widespread awareness about all the forces at play.  The arc of history may bend toward justice but there are forces that are counter opposed trying to influence our culture one way or another.   

 

What to do about racists with badges?  Certainly police culture does not actively root them out.  They deal with the worst among us, often having the worst day of their lives while often bearing arms.  They are systematically disrespected by many, overly stressed, with their fingers are on the trigger.   When they do a traffic stop or answer a domestic disturbance call their minds are full of crap that can go wrong.  Thus, they are culturally reluctant to hold their peers accountable and becoming jaded towards the communities they police is a fairly normal, human outcome.  Judge not lest you be judged is the mantra.  Bad outcomes or policing mistakes are best covered up lest the crap hits the fan.  I think it's much the same with military in active combat zones.  Rooting out the bad apples is not a priority. 

 

But, imo, the newest and biggest force working to do so is cameras of the cell phone and body worn type.  How long have they been in wide existence?  None of this happens without the videos which bear witness to the events.  These often exonerate the actions of the police which is a good thing too.  So this is a powerful cultural force recently  injected into the equation but I sense police do not like being recorded doing their jobs.

[Coach Tuesday]

1 minute ago, thenorthremembers said:

If the NFL and its players actually cared about black lives they would have started this years ago to protest black people killing one another.  They would have done more to lift black lives besides their own out of poverty.   A black man is 90% more likely to be killed by his own race than he is a cop but no one says anything about that.  Over 65% of black homes are fatherless, anyone want to talk about that? People boo because they are sick of thr 24/7 pandering to a cause that cant see beyond their own nose.  Wanna create real change?  Start it in your own community.  Stop protesting your consequences and start giving your kids a chance.

 

 

If you took a minute to inform yourself instead of posting something like this, you’d discover that Black athletes have been trying to help their communities and bring awareness to social justice issues for decades.  Honestly your entire post is just a tired troll-like talking point.

[todd]

1 hour ago, HamSandwhich said:

If you’re making that claim, it’s on you to prove it. In order to believe this, you’re going to have to completely disregard research over decades and decades that state positive reinforcement and incentives create predictable and repeated behavior. So if we give positive reinforcement to say that if you label a person as dying from COVID then you will give them extra money, in the middle of an economic shut down no less, don’t you think they are going to be incentivized to call as much as possible as COVID deaths? Extrapolate logically here, no political bent needed.

 

i can’t speak to your anecdotal information, I will say this. There are around 200k confirmed deaths (debatable but I digress) in the country as a whole. In a country of around 350 million, does that sound like a number that overwhelms? Again, extrapolate logically, don’t listen to political pundits. 
 

If it was so bad, why was it that ventilators were not needed nearly as badly as Cuomo was crying for? They had to redirect the vents. Do you remember that political football? It’s all political! 

That is your own opinion. You disagree with their viewpoint and you assign the fact that they are racist. I live in A rural NC town  at this juncture while building a house outside of Asheville because Asheville has lost its mind. They’ve approved reparations, Green new deal, defunding the police and I won’t be around to see the city fall apart like Portland or to have to pay the over inflated taxes. I’ll live amongst those so-called racists as you call them, in the rural areas over that type of craziness.

That’s quite a biased agenda you have, there. Your myopia is showing.

[Reality Check]

2 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

There is no difference between “all cops are racist” and “all protesters are marxists” or whatever.  It’s the same exact kind of destructive (and false) groupthink that’s tearing the country to shreds.

 

That is hyperbole. The country is not being torn to shreds. We have an old global financial model on its death bed. We are transitioning to a new global model.

[Putin]

3 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

If the NFL and its players actually cared about black lives they would have started this years ago to protest black people killing one another.  They would have done more to lift black lives besides their own out of poverty.   A black man is 90% more likely to be killed by his own race than he is a cop but no one says anything about that.  Over 65% of black homes are fatherless, anyone want to talk about that? People boo because they are sick of thr 24/7 pandering to a cause that cant see beyond their own nose.  Wanna create real change?  Start it in your own community.  Stop protesting your consequences and start giving your kids a chance.

 

 

Sorry but there’s no place for facts on this board 

[Reality Check]

5 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Hey minority.  Please protest some where I can’t see it and don’t have to worry about your issues. 
 

signed, 

 

Whitey McSportsfan

 

PS can’t wait to see Kid Rock on Laura Horseface tonight talk politics!

 

Dude, you have some pent up hate.

[C.Biscuit97]

2 hours ago, HamSandwhich said:

It’s so strange that people take celebrities words for things seemingly just because of their celebrity status. Why does that make them more qualified to talk on issues? I’m sure there are intelligent well-learned individuals within the ranks and maybe they are worth hearing out, but by in large, it seems that celebrities have a superficial understanding of things. Perfect example is Cardi B. See Cardi B’s interview with Biden. Painful and obvious pandering of the highest order. 

Now do Ted Nugent, Herschel walker, Dana White

[nkreed]

Over 7 Pages, and not one poster has added the scoreboard quotes that goes along with the Moment of Unit? Could it be possible some were booing one of these statements?

 

We Support Equality;

We Must End Racism;

We Believe in Justice for All;

We Must End Police Brutality; We Choose Unconditional Love;

We Believe Black Lives Matter;

It Takes All of Us

 

Link to article I took this from, first one on Google (https://www.towleroad.com/2020/09/boo-moment-of-unity/#:~:text=While players locked arms%2C the,It Takes All of Us.”)

[Penfield45]

Just now, whatdrought said:

Why is he misinformed? What points do you disagree with? He even numbered his assertions making it very easy to respond to. To which point do you disagree? 

 

"These folks are privileged to play a game for incredible money...they should recognize and appreciate that"

 

what the hell does this even mean? so just because they make a lot of money doesn't mean they can speak up on social issues? this seems like you are part of the "shut up and dribble" crowd. If so, please don't support our team or our players. 

[Coach Tuesday]

1 minute ago, HamSandwhich said:

I’ll put it this way, I’m proud of myself and what I be accomplished and I happen to be white. That is white supremacy these days. 

I have never heard someone being called a white supremacist because they are proud of themselves and happen to be white - I have no idea what you’re talking about.  But “pride in whiteness” suggests something more than that - the Proud Boys are no better than BLM and they’re one of the more benign pseudo-fascist groups out there...

[C.Biscuit97]

 

1 minute ago, Reality Check said:

 

Dude, you have some pent up hate.

Haha. I hate racists. I hate people who defend racists or tell oppressed people who they should feel and protest.

 

and I’ve spread a lot more love than you. 😉

[ziltoid]

9 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Hey minority.  Please protest some where I can’t see it and don’t have to worry about your issues. 
 

signed, 

 

Whitey McSportsfan

 

PS can’t wait to see Kid Rock on Laura Horseface tonight talk politics!

 

Go wash some feet!

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

Whatever the case the money the NFL will be loosing because of this will be astronomical. The owner of the bowling alley wouldn't turn the game on until all the political BS was over and we missed the first 2 min of the game. 20 TV's 28 teams and only like 3 teams were watching the football game. All those commerces before the anthem will be worthless if people don't turn their tv's on until 2 min into the 1 qtr. 

[SCBills]

6 hours ago, purple haze said:

True.  But Donald Trump is still the president for now and very popular among a certain set.  And the cops

who killed Breonna Taylor, in her bed, are still walking around free, and paid tribute to by many simply

for being officers of the "law."

 

Honest question - What do you think will happen if they arrest the cops who killed Breonna Taylor?

 

They won’t be convicted of anything.  We need to get rid of no-knock warrants - that’s what I take from that horrible, sad situation. 
 

But when cops make a mistake and bust into the wrong place, then get shot at, they’re going to fire back in self defense.   No jury is convicting them based on that.  

[Just Jack]

6 minutes ago, 4_kidd_4 said:

We sure they weren’t saying “Booouurns”??

 

I was saying Booouurns. 

[whatdrought]

4 minutes ago, Penfield45 said:

 

"These folks are privileged to play a game for incredible money...they should recognize and appreciate that"

 

what the hell does this even mean? so just because they make a lot of money doesn't mean they can speak up on social issues? this seems like you are part of the "shut up and dribble" crowd. If so, please don't support our team or our players. 

 

I don’t know what he meant by that.  Maybe you should have asked him instead of disregarding and insulting his post and calling him uninformed. 
 

 

Edited September 11, 2020 by whatdrought

[Dragoon]

Good. I don’t need millionaire athletes making political statements. I need them to play ball and that’s it. The NFL says they got a right to be heard and on that I agree. I hear them. Now it’s my turn to be heard — other than the Sunday Ticket, I will not allow a dime of mine to go to sportsing. No hats, jerseys, or tickets. Athletes need to be athletes. “Republicans buy sneakers too.”

[Penfield45]

Just now, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

Whatever the case the money the NFL will be loosing because of this will be astronomical. The owner of the bowling alley wouldn't turn the game on until all the political BS was over and we missed the first 2 min of the game. 20 TV's 28 teams and only like 3 teams were watching the football game. All those commerces before the anthem will be worthless if people don't turn their tv's on until 2 min into the 1 qtr. 

 

LOL the NFL is worth 12billion 

 

because some hillbilly bowling ally owners don't wanna broadcast their game doesn't mean they will be losing "astronomical money" get a grip bud