Final Vote—All States, Progress in counting

[Warcodered]

27 minutes ago, Penfield45 said:

Look at these idiots 

 

and these people call themselves Americans LOL. 
 

They are so brainwashed it’s embarrassing 

 

[Doc Brown]

13 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

It doesn't even rank in the top 10 dumbest things that has happened during his administration, but taking to Twitter to argue Democrats are somehow cheating their way to a win is pretty out there. The good news is most of the country isn't going to buy it, even his own supporters are mostly going to accept the results. I figure he is trying to use that narrative as a spring board for the conservative media empire that he clearly wants to start as soon as he leaves the presidency.

I thought Trump TV was his 2015 plan.

14 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

His supporters (Breitbart readers, Hannity/Carlson listeners) are convinced that he's being cheated out of a victory. 

Trump’s main problem was he catered too much to their audience and never attempted to broaden his support.  Plus, twitter.

[Backintheday544]

22 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said:

Any truth to the rumor the the election has actually turned to trump's favor in Nevada and they have stopped counting votes.  I've noticed my election tracker has had a change in the vote count for Nevada, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and Gorgias haven't changed since this morning.

There is.  It's called an AK-47.  Should have used them in all the other protest in my opinion.

No truth in NV going more Trump. NV has changed their counting releases though. They’re releasing numbers at 10 AM every day through next week. NV I believe allows up to a week for votes to come in.

[transplantbillsfan]

This thread is a lot more sane than another one I was just in on another site  

Edited November 5, 2020 by transplantbillsfan

[transplantbillsfan]

Amazingly Biden still has a really good chance to win not just Pennsylvania, but also Georgia.

 

That would end up getting Biden not just the Popular vote, which looks like it might go upwards of 4, but also 306 electoral votes.

 

That would give Biden a bigger electoral victory than Trump had in 2016.

 

I'm really, REALLY hoping that happens. Because all Trump will be talking about is how his electoral victory was bigger than Biden's.

[Warcodered]

11 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

This thread is a lot more sane than another one I was just in on another site  

Important question if your bet is still active over there is he going to weasel out due to "voter fraud"?

[dma0034]

As a democrat I understand why Biden is winning and has so many votes and why Hillary did not. What I don't understand is how Trump got so many votes is Rural areas in 2016 and 2020. That's the real mystery imo

[aristocrat]

3 minutes ago, dma0034 said:

As a democrat I understand why Biden is winning and has so many votes and why Hillary did not. What I don't understand is how Trump got so many votes is Rural areas in 2016 and 2020. That's the real mystery imo

the media and pollsters and the dems don’t understand that either.  Instead they just blindly call them racists

[Jon in Pasadena]

1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said:

This thread is a lot more sane than another one I was just in on another site  

What's the other site?

 

[Backintheday544]

Trump surrogates need to stop sharing fake news. Eric Trump busted for showing a video of someone burning Trump votes in VA Beach. However, those ballots were just sample ballots.

 

It’s dangerous all this disinformation they’re sharing.

[SoCal Deek]

12 hours ago, Backintheday544 said:

President Biden is up 3.3 million votes (and growing) and will win the electoral college. This wasn’t split right down the middle. Right now 3.3 million more people wanted Biden and he won the electoral college. That’s a mandate.

 

Funny how the Trumpers were saying they were the silent majority. Guess that ideas thrown out the window now.

If you take California out of the equation it’s indeed split right down the middle and was in 2016 as well. 

[dickleyjones]

9 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

If you take California out of the equation it’s indeed split right down the middle and was in 2016 as well. 

If you do math wrong, you can prove anything?

[DrDawkinstein]

If you take away JP Losman's bad plays he's actually a pretty good QB

[LeGOATski]

11 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

If you take California out of the equation it’s indeed split right down the middle and was in 2016 as well. 

I don't think our franchise QB appreciates you discounting his and his family's votes.

 

Un-American AND Un-Bills...

[HeHateMe]

16 hours ago, Process said:

I'll say this. Joe biden is going to be another one and done. He is an awful candidate and in clear decline health wise. There is also a really good chance he doesn't finish his first term and we are stuck with Kamala who is obviously even worse. 

 

No one wants joe biden as president. He inspires nobody. He's a career politician who has accomplished nothing. Hell try to raise taxes. He supports terrorist groups like BLM. 

 

Joe Biden didn't win this race, the republicans lost it with trump. There's also 0 percent chance they lose if covid didnt happen. The county was doing great before hand. 

 

Republicans will win back the presidency in '24 with a candidate who is not a bat ***** crazy lunatic. 

Are you sure about that?  That is the party platform now... It's conspiracy theory central over there.

[Backintheday544]

16 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

If you take California out of the equation it’s indeed split right down the middle and was in 2016 as well. 

Yes, let’s just ignore millions of Americans that contribute over 14 percent of the US GDP.

[HamSandwhich]

8 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said:

Yes, let’s just ignore millions of Americans that contribute over 14 percent of the US GDP.

Sounds good

[Buftex]

13 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

You people are really over the top with this stuff.  This election, like the last one, was not a mandate for much of anything. We have a completely divided nation...right down the middle.  You could hold the 2020 election all over against next week and get a different result. It is just that close.  Now, that doesn't mean the winning side isn't going to taking their victory as a mandate....they will for sure.

It is no less a "mandate" than what Trump had.  Biden won't make the mistake and pretend that only people who voted for him, or states that he won are relevant.

 

That said, it is going to be another 4 years of grid-lock, with McConnell retaining power in the senate.  

[aristocrat]

25k votes left to count in georgia and trump has over an 18k lead.  looks like georgia to him.  arizona biden lead came down overnight from 93k to about 69k with him getting 57 percent of the first maricopa county vote which is the percentage the trump team said they needed to get.  plenty more votes to go though.  

[jrober38]

9 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

25k votes left to count in georgia and trump has over an 18k lead.  looks like georgia to him.  arizona biden lead came down overnight from 93k to about 69k with him getting 57 percent of the first maricopa county vote which is the percentage the trump team said they needed to get.  plenty more votes to go though.  

 

There are about 25k votes that have been counted but not reported, almost all of which are from Atlanta and Savannah. 

 

In total, about 50k votes will still be added, all early mail in votes which have been 70+% Dem. 

 

If Biden's margins hold, he should win Georgia by a few thousand votes. 

[keepthefaith]

Michigan had 4.8 million votes cast for Pres in 2016.  This year the number will be between 5.5 and 5.6 million.  That's a 16% increase.  Unheard of and much larger than the increases throughout the county.  Also, Trump went from about +320K at 2:00 AM eastern election night/AM to now down 150K votes meaning a 470K vote swing for Biden.  In that time Trump gained few votes, Biden gained nearly all of them.  Mail in voting aside, that doesn't smell right and it needs to be looked at.  There are other irregularities in other states too. 

 

In the end we have to get this right and be confident that the numbers reflect real votes and whoever wins, wins but things don't smell right in some places.  It has to be reviewed closely. 

[jrober38]

1 minute ago, keepthefaith said:

Michigan had 4.8 million votes cast for Pres in 2016.  This year the number will be between 5.5 and 5.6 million.  That's a 16% increase.  Unheard of and much larger than the increases throughout the county.  Also, Trump went from about +320K at 2:00 AM eastern election night/AM to now down 150K votes meaning a 470K vote swing for Biden.  In that time Trump gained few votes, Biden gained nearly all of them.  Mail in voting aside, that doesn't smell right and it needs to be looked at.  There are other irregularities in other states too. 

 

In the end we have to get this right and be confident that the numbers reflect real votes and whoever wins, wins but things don't smell right in some places.  It has to be reviewed closely. 

 

Everyone knew before the election that the vast majority of Democrat votes would come through the mail because of COVID. They were never going to go line up and cast their votes in person in meaningful numbers. 

 

None of this is surprising. 

[DrDawkinstein]

3 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

Everyone knew before the election that the vast majority of Democrat votes would come through the mail because of COVID. They were never going to go line up and cast their votes in person in meaningful numbers. 

 

None of this is surprising. 

 

Trump: Don't use mail-in voting! Vote in person on Election Day! Don't mail your ballots in!

 

Trump and Trump Supporters: Why are all the mail-in ballots for Biden? Something's fishy!! 

[jrober38]

1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Trump: Don't use mail-in voting! Vote in person on Election Day! Don't mail your ballots in!

 

Trump and Trump Supporters: Why are all the mail-in ballots for Biden? Something's fishy!! 

 

Also Trump: "Stop counting!" in (PA and GA) and "Keep counting!" in (AZ and NV). 

[keepthefaith]

8 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

Everyone knew before the election that the vast majority of Democrat votes would come through the mail because of COVID. They were never going to go line up and cast their votes in person in meaningful numbers. 

 

None of this is surprising. 

 

No it's very surprising for the numbers to be that heavy in favor of 1 candidate.  Dems went to court in many states to have the rules for voting loosened up and in many cases those changes were granted.  There were fears that it would reduce the integrity of the vote.  Now we have numbers that are very one sided and an unprecedented increase in vote counts.  It needs to be looked at.  No big deal,  Audit the results and make sure they are air tight. 

[jrober38]

Just now, keepthefaith said:

 

No it's very surprising for the numbers to be that heavy in favor of 1 candidate.  Dems went to court in many states to have the rules for voting loosened up and in many cases those changes were granted.  There were fears that it would reduce the integrity of the vote.  Now we have numbers that are very one sided and an unprecedented increase in vote counts.  It needs to be looked at.  No big deal,  Audit the results and make sure they are air tight. 

 

It's not surprising at all.

 

These are just baseless right wing talking points that don't reflect reality. 

[keepthefaith]

17 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

It's not surprising at all.

 

These are just baseless right wing talking points that don't reflect reality. 

 

Not baseless.  I gave you numbers.  There are irregularities.  They should be explored and they will be. 

[Reader]

21 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

It's not surprising at all.

 

These are just baseless right wing talking points that don't reflect reality. 

 

Prior to the election, they had the amount of mail in's listed which could be sorted by party affiliation, age, etc...

 

No one cared or said anything about the breakdown until now...strange how that works.

 

In other words, you are exactly correct.

[Backintheday544]

2 minutes ago, keepthefaith said:

 

Not baseless.  I gave you numbers.  There are irregularities.  They should be explored and they will be. 

None of those are irregularities. Before the election everyone knew this would be one of if not the largest election turnouts of all time. And it is been.

 

Like Trump or not, almost everyone has an opinion on him and that drove out the votes.

 

Having mail in ballots go mainly blue isn’t a surprise at all. This too was something talked about even before Tuesday.

[jrober38]

 

4 minutes ago, keepthefaith said:

 

Not baseless.  I gave you numbers.  There are irregularities.  They should be explored and they will be. 

 

It is baseless.

 

Republicans who did mail in vote did so from all over the state. Those vote collection stations were under less pressure, and have reported 98% of their vote in pretty much every situation.

 

The remaining vote is from urban areas where the collection stations were overwhelmed by mail in votes from democrats. As a result, the votes coming in are coming in 80-90% for democrats because democrats overwhelmingly live in cities like Philadelphia. 

[DrDawkinstein]

5 minutes ago, keepthefaith said:

 

Not baseless.  I gave you numbers.  There are irregularities.  They should be explored and they will be. 

 

There are "irregularities" when comparing to prior elections. But nothing that is unexpected or inexplicable by anyone paying attention going into this election. Sure, they'll be double-checked, but yall can tone down your conspiracy theories.

[Back2Buff]

 

[jrober38]

10 minutes ago, Back2Buff said:

 

 

Fake news.

 

Actual Wisconsin voter turnout is roughly 71%. 

[Back2Buff]

1 minute ago, jrober38 said:

 

Fake news.

 

Actual Wisconsin voter turnout is roughly 71%. 

 

Prove it

 

[jrober38]

5 minutes ago, Back2Buff said:

 

Prove it

 

https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/verify/verify-wisconsin-turnout-not-massively-larger-than-normal/507-ac05b2f4-fdfe-4bc5-91d5-7a22496c3314

 

There were only 200k more votes cast than last time in Wisconsin.

 

They compared the number of votes to the number of registered voters and compared that number to the number of votes relative to the number of eligible voters in past years.

 

This information is complete garbage. It's apples or oranges. 

 

Word of advice - don't get your info from people with #MAGA in their bio. 

[Backintheday544]

22 minutes ago, Back2Buff said:

 

These numbers are looking at two different things. All the ones prior to 2020 the formula is votes / voting age population. The last one is votes/ registered votes as of 11/1.

[jrober38]

1 minute ago, Backintheday544 said:

These numbers are looking at two different things. All the ones prior to 2020 the formula is votes / voting age population. The last one is votes/ registered votes as of 11/1.

 

It's literally apples to oranges to create a bad number that MAGAs don't understand so they can scream about fraud.

 

The right wing propaganda being pumped out is nothing but lies at this point. 

[Backintheday544]

12 minutes ago, Back2Buff said:

 

Prove it

 

calm down and look at the lower left corner. What’s the temperature? 19 degrees. Was it 19 degrees at any time in Nov in Detroit? No.

 

So what’s up? This picture is from December 2019 and that law suit is settled.

 

The graphic, we found, as well as the report it came from, were real. However, the news segment aired not in November 2020, but in December 2019. The lawsuit referenced in the report was dropped by the plaintiff on July 1, 2020, after “remedial action” was taken by the city of Detroit

1 minute ago, jrober38 said:

 

It's literally apples to oranges to create a bad number that MAGAs don't understand so they can scream about fraud.

 

The right wing propaganda being pumped out is nothing but lies at this point. 

They’re also using voter registration numbers from prior to 11/3. WI allows same day registration that’s not reflected in their 3.6 million number they keep coming up with.

[dma0034]

13 minutes ago, Back2Buff said:

 

Prove it

 

 

On top of being wrong... why is it instantly the democrats? Trump's rural voting is more than anything anyone has seen before he became President in 2016. He's a hated president by the left. I see this election as his loss rather than a Biden win. 

[DrDawkinstein]

2 minutes ago, dma0034 said:

 

On top of being wrong... why is it instantly the democrats? Trump's rural voting is more than anything anyone has seen before he became President in 2016. He's a hated president by the left. I see this election as his loss rather than a Biden win. 

 

Good point. For the record, in September Trump encouraged his supporters to try to vote twice.

 

As did Mike Huckabee in October.

 

So if there is any fraud, it's more likely Republican since only one side was actively and publicly encouraging supporters to cheat. (And we know these followers will do anything their dear leader tells them)