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I'm surprised to see the typical negative crowd is, well being negative about this. I swear you guys would find a way to complain even if Buffalo wins it all. This is such fantastic news for the Bills. He is a damn good coach who has been improving year after year.

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  On 8/12/2020 at 8:36 PM, KD in CA said:

 

Anything?  A team that missed the playoffs for 17 straight years has now been there 2 out of 3 years, no?

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I'm just not sold on him yet. 

 

2017

We started hot at 5-2 but then fell apart at the end of the season finishing 9-7. We finished the second half of the season 4-5 and backed into the playoffs. We get into the playoffs and can't even score a single touchdown. 

 

2018

6-10. Miss playoffs. 

 

2019

Finish 10-6. Good record on paper but let's be real this was an extremely easy schedule. In the playoff game against Houston we only manage 1 touchdown (first series) the entire game.

 

 

IMO seems like we should've waited a little longer before doing an extension. 

 

 

 

  On 8/12/2020 at 8:36 PM, billsfan89 said:

 

In the 17 years before McD how many playoff appearances has the team made? Since McD got here the team has made 2 both with winning records. He has proven to be an elite defensive coach and built a culture and roster that has set up this team for success in the next 3 seasons. I fail to see what there isn't to like about it. There is no salary cap for coaches if the Bills go 6-10 the next two years and McD gets fire the Pegulas just eat the money.

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Yes but what about offense? His teams have seemed to really struggle on offense. 

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  On 8/12/2020 at 8:57 PM, ScottLaw said:

Dude he's .500 and 0-2 in the playoffs. Set the bar higher.

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Prove my statement wrong.

 

 

  On 8/12/2020 at 9:00 PM, Klaista2k said:

I'm just not sold on him yet. 

 

2017

We started hot at 5-2 but then fell apart at the end of the season finishing 9-7. We finished the second half of the season 4-5 and backed into the playoffs. We get into the playoffs and can't even score a single touchdown. 

 

2018

6-10. Miss playoffs. 

 

2019

Finish 10-6. Good record on paper but let's be real this was an extremely easy schedule. In the playoff game against Houston we only manage 1 touchdown (first series) the entire game.

 

 

IMO seems like we should've waited a little longer before doing an extension. 

 

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Hey buddy, there are a couple of other guys in this thread you should start hanging out with...the three of you together would be a hoot.

 

 

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  On 8/12/2020 at 8:26 PM, IDBillzFan said:

Here's the thing: why do you care?

 

It's not like his salary counts against the cap, or this deal is putting the team in a horrible corner if he bombs the next two years. If it doesn't work out, they fire him and eat the salary. But if you follow the current trajectory and the team moves on to do great things,  then you don't HAVE to worry about him leaving.

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Why does anyone care in the 15+ pages of this thread?  First, because it's a relevant topic as McD is the Bills and vice-versa.  Second, from the get-go McD has been leading their team-building strategy.  

 

So far, McD has largely been a defense first HC that packs it in at crucial moments. 

 

Re-signing McD may be good or may be bad.  People are going to (hopefully) debate this decision, but only time will tell. 

 

  On 8/12/2020 at 8:34 PM, John from Riverside said:

What is a tell tale sign that your team is doing well?  The HC gets a contract extension

 

When was the LAST time that happened in Buffalo

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As others have noted, Jauron received an extension.  Didn't mean anything in the long run, but seeing as how everyone needs instant analysis or to draw conclusions of things that haven't happened, it's become a net positive the day it was signed. 

 

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  On 8/12/2020 at 8:57 PM, ScottLaw said:

Dude he's .500 and 0-2 in the playoffs. Set the bar higher.

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I’d love to know who could’ve squeezed more than 6 wins out of that 2018 squad (recall: Beane made purposeful decision to take the hot garbage salary cap lumps of dead money all in one gulp instead of over time) which featured nothing at o-line, nothing at QB (remember DA?) outside of rookie Allen, and nothing at WR? Just sayin’ you need to give the 6-10 year a bit more context. The Bills had no business winning even 6 games with that roster, everyone here knows that’s a true statement. 

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  On 8/12/2020 at 9:00 PM, Klaista2k said:

IMO seems like we should've waited a little longer before doing an extension. 

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It seems to me the people who feel this was premature are primarily stats people.

 

THIS is his record for his first three year.

 

He's .500 career and 0-2 in the playoffs.

 

When you mostly rely on stats, you lose full sight of everything else that has been going on...things that don't show up on paper, but long-time Bills fans know in their hearts. This team can suddenly win games they're supposed to win. And they're winning games you'd expect them to lose. The Dallas Thanksgiving Day was the clincher for me. A prime-time road game with everyone in the country watching? That's a game the Bills have puked up for years. But McDermott had them ready to play.

 

Hell, one of the best Bills moments in years shows you the kind of team this guy is putting together. How do you watch these videos without understanding that McDermott leads them to be this kind of team. How do you watch them, think about the past season, and think, "Well, I'm not fully sold on McDermott yet!"

 

Stare at numbers all you want. But there's more to this than numbers, and the 99% of Bills fans cheering this extension can see it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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His (and Beane's) most significant accomplishment can be found in the recent comments by Josh Norman.  It's not about his coaching record, it's about the rapid evolution of the Bills from a team that was considered the bottom of the barrel in the NFL to one that has a positive culture where guys want to play.

 

No one can guarantee winning, but what you can do is put your franchise in position where it has the opportunity.  The Bills went two decades without that opportunity and now they have it.  I'd say that's accomplishing a lot.

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  On 8/12/2020 at 9:11 PM, BillsVet said:

 

Why does anyone care in the 15+ pages of this thread?  First, because it's a relevant topic as McD is the Bills and vice-versa.  Second, from the get-go McD has been leading their team-building strategy.  

 

So far, McD has largely been a defense first HC that packs it in at crucial moments. 

 

Re-signing McD may be good or may be bad.  People are going to (hopefully) debate this decision, but only time will tell. 

 

 

As others have noted, Jauron received an extension.  Didn't mean anything in the long run, but seeing as how everyone needs instant analysis or to draw conclusions of things that haven't happened, it's become a net positive the day it was signed. 

 

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Packs it in at crucial moments?

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  On 8/12/2020 at 5:40 PM, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

 

Why are we rushing into an extension when he still had 2 years left on his first contract? 

 

His the best coach we've had since at least Wade, but all he's shown so far is that he can take average teams to a first round playoff exit. 

 

I would've waited at least 1 more year before extending. 

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Because it sends a broader message that BUF is a well-oiled machine and has reinforced us as a desired destination

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  On 8/12/2020 at 9:11 PM, BillsVet said:

 

Why does anyone care in the 15+ pages of this thread?  First, because it's a relevant topic as McD is the Bills and vice-versa.  Second, from the get-go McD has been leading their team-building strategy.  

 

So far, McD has largely been a defense first HC that packs it in at crucial moments. 

 

Re-signing McD may be good or may be bad.  People are going to (hopefully) debate this decision, but only time will tell. 

 

 

As others have noted, Jauron received an extension.  Didn't mean anything in the long run, but seeing as how everyone needs instant analysis or to draw conclusions of things that haven't happened, it's become a net positive the day it was signed. 

 

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Jauron's extension and this extension could not be more different.

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  On 8/12/2020 at 9:00 PM, Klaista2k said:

I'm just not sold on him yet. 

 

2017

We started hot at 5-2 but then fell apart at the end of the season finishing 9-7. We finished the second half of the season 4-5 and backed into the playoffs. We get into the playoffs and can't even score a single touchdown. 

 

2018

6-10. Miss playoffs. 

 

2019

Finish 10-6. Good record on paper but let's be real this was an extremely easy schedule. In the playoff game against Houston we only manage 1 touchdown (first series) the entire game.

 

 

IMO seems like we should've waited a little longer before doing an extension. 

 

 

 

Yes but what about offense? His teams have seemed to really struggle on offense. 

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Did McD inherit a lot of offensive talent? Look at the context of the situation to see why the offenses haven't been very good. The O-line in 2017 was an aging InCog, Wood and a busted up Cordy Glenn. The three best skill position players were Shady (a RB with one more decent season left), Sammy (A malcontent who was traded for good value) and Clay a banged up TE.  The QB was Tyrod a decent placeholder but more of a game manager. 

 

2018 they traded a lot of their assets to get Josh and took on a lot of dead money to build the team the right way long term. 2019 they rebuilt the O-line into a respectable unit, added 2 quality WR's and a young RB while getting Josh some more experience. Now they added a stud WR in Diggs, some complementary parts like Moss and kept the O-line cohesion going. They haven't neglected the offense they just started farther back on that side of the ball. 

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